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I agree with Spice. The ratio has of different alkaloids has changed. Note that the high is very complex effect of many different alkaloids. Maybe with selective breeding the average THC % has risen a little bit but 45% seems like total bullshit.
Some of the landrance sativas are very low in...
Oh ja die weckpotten moet je dus ook een rubbere chemische handschoen hebben die in het lab wordt gebruikt om tussen de deksel te doen omdat de rubberen ring dus waarschijnlijk niet bestand is tegen het apolaire oplosmiddel
Ik heb zelf ook wel met 2L weckpotten gewerkt. Ik heb zelf altijd met 250g gedroogde cactus of mimosa gewerkt, zo blijft het praktisch omdat de hoeveelheden niet te groot worden. Kleinere hoeveelheden geven natuurlijk weer relatief meer verlies omdat bij elke stap wel wat verloren gaat...
I don't think it's dangerous fysiologically, although a higher rise in bloodpressure is seen in comparison with dmt.
Indeed some like it more because but there seems no consensus: some say it's emotionally deeper and...
First, I must say the credit doesn't belong to me, I remembered reading something like this on the nexus and after googling,
separating 5meodmt en dmt I found it back in 1 minute. I think some crazy guy called 69ron developed it.
For the for layers ijesus christ is right, it's an emulsion and...
Well Ijezuschrist, I don't no what are normal equipment and reagents for you? but if 5-MeO-DMT citrate is nearly insoluble in acetone and nn-DMT citrate is very soluble in acetone I think it's pretty simple and straightfoward for everyone to separate them with normal stuff which everyone can...
Probably Reed canary grass, Phalaris arundinacea. I am not completely sure but this grows just about everywhere I believe.
These can contain 5-meo-dmt which is far more potent and can cause extremely unpleasant experiences when smoked , they also give a serious rise in blood pressure. Also it...
I was thinking about using limonene myself but I have read it's a poor solvent. It also read is not stable when working with strong acids, don't know with strong base. I believe people got some proper yields with the drytek: mixing the cactuspowder with CaOH and the directly extract with...
I think normally fine powder should be no problem, I never filtered with a STB. It's is true that there can be dry spots and I believe it's important to wait maybe one or two days that the lye can degrade everything (a lot of people don't have any patience). It would be a big mistake adding...
Well depending on how accurately you want to measure it you should obvious buy a digital scale.
I wouldn't eyeball it but it probably is possible if you weight it before and you more a less know the amount. (although I always Eyeball my nn-dmt, which dose range is more like 50-80mg, it just...
Nice site, goos general info pretty objective.
itsscience: the moment I wrote it I already assumed you meant it that way, thats why I posted the second comment. Sorry for my quick assumption.
You are just saying something itsscience.
The amount of recepters can increase of decrease by taking substances, this mechanism is already known for ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downregula ... regulation
You can eat the cactus, I believe only the outer skin is used and a thin/transparant membrane is removed. You can also make it to a fluid, but both methods are really naste to take and it's difficult to consume large enough amounts for a good trip. If you are really dedicated you can do it. Also...
Benzene is carcinogenic and to toxic to work with at home. I've read some things about naphta but it isn't a very good solvent for mescaline. Toluene and xylene are good alternatives for benzene. Also d-limonene becomes more widely used nowadays, not so toxic and smells good, like oranges.
Some tips:
the QT extraction is pretty clear but uses a to low pH at the basification making the viscosity high, if you go to pH 11-13 there are less emulsions.
30 grams is not much, after every step you have loss, so I would go for about 250gram, because it's a nice amount to work on(not to...
He heartcore, long time no see.
Probably to high pH, maybe if you check next time you can go as low as pH 2. Amount of jurema seems ok. How are you sure the Caapi extract was ok, did you bought it or extracted it yourself? To isolate the alkaloids the extraction is a little different from dmt...
Weet helaas niets over de kruistolerantie, wel dat 2-cb en phenethylamine net als mescaline is en en psilo en lsd tryptamines. Volgens DHPwiki sheelt de dosis wel maar volgens de gewone wiki is het bijna hetzelfde, dus weet ook niet zeker, wel dat het een stuk sneller werkt waardoor je snel een...
If I should choose for a party I would say 2c-b. Colourfull, empathogenic, physical energy, less bodily side effects, very positive and uplifting in a moderate dose. I think mushrooms or LSD are more introspective and less for crowdy places, especially mushrooms which are too chaotic. But be...
Why not just doing an extraction with limonene or something? Do you like the bad side affects that the plant materials give you? seems a bit stubborn, no offense. I wish I could find limonene this but still using toluene and xylene. (So if someone knows a source that sends to holland please pm...
Although the text below is about salvinorin A, smoking the plant, especially exctracts can have similiair experiences, best is if you chew it, if you are looking for a short trip I would recommend nn-dmt, 5-meo-dmt or ketamine
Some quotes from: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ...
klopt wat je zegt maar lost wel altijd wel een heel klein beetje water in de nafta op die dan wel weer NaOH bevat. Dit is verwaarloosbaar maar sommige mensen, wil gewoon zo zuiver mogelijke kristallen bijvoorbeeld voor het wegen.
Klopt maar je kan ook vervuiling hebben van nafta of NaOH, maar niet zo snel, alleen als het ingesloten is in de kristallen, naoh lost niet op in nafta dus dit zal niet zo snel een probleem vormen.
Vooral als je vaste stoffen hebt kan het zijn dat de emulsie bijna niet meer ontmengt, als je ronddraait zal het minder mengen maar bij het contactoppervlak van de twee lagen zal de dmt wel van de ene naar de andere laag gaan, je kan ook gewoon rondjes draaien op zn kop om te zorgen dat de...
ja heb ook gelezen van die american spirit, maar las wel dat ie vrij scherp smaakte en hoog nicotine had.
Dan is de vraag wat heb je liever wilt: meer teer/nicotine of die troep die anderen toevoegen? denk dat ik gewoon voor de lichste meest smaakloze sigaret ga die ik kan vinden.
Een reden...
Toen ik jaren geleden begon met blowen, heb ik een tabaksverslaving opgelopen. Ik hou nog steeds van een peuk wanneer ik drink met vrienden ofzo maar probeer het tot een mimimum te beperken, helemaal stoppen hoef ik ook (nog) niet.
Nu komt mijn punt, ik hou van een jointje, maar wil zo weinig...
Als de oplossing kouder wordt zal hij minder dmt kunnen vasthouden/oplossen, waardoor de kristallen ontstaan. Wanneer je een overmaat oplosmiddel hebt en dat koud maakt en afgiet heb je grote kans dat er nog steeds dmt in het oplosmiddel zit om het niet 'verzadigd' is. Als je dit weggooit heb je...
ik snap niet precies wat je hebt gedaan met 'wasbenzine bewaren'. de vries-precipatie levert vaak een behoorlijk zuiver product op, maar als je oplossing niet verzadigd is zal waarschijnlijk hier nog dmt in opgelost zitten. Ik liet zelf eerste al mijn naphta verdampen van de extractie en deed...
Ja wel grotendeels , nafta is mengsel van koolwaterstoffen, wasbenzine ook maar volgens mij vaak een mengsel van meer verschillende en kan ook sneller vervuilingen hebben. Terpentine bevat ook andere stoffen maar moet wel werken. Maar grote kans dat je ten eerste meer dan nn-dmt extraheert en...
or actually you are right, I see no reason why one should eat or drink that stuff. But pure mescaline is different from a cactus extraction, except if you separate the sleepy alkaloids via filtration or recrystallization after gassing with HCl, the you have pretty much pure mescaline.
No didn't say that. The sleepy alkaloid makes the trip more dreamy which can add a relaxing/calming effect.
But if you do and extraction you should end up with the same mixed alkaloids as with drinking a brew/or eating cactus except for the large amount of dirty plant material which has no...
A brew or cacti contains more plant materials which are hard to digest, so it's harder on the body and you have more unwanted side-effects.
If you have pure mescaline.hcl it's pretty stimulating but after a normal extraction you extract a mixture of alkaloids, one of them is a 'sleepy' one...
My mistake, of course naphta is more NON-polar is what I ment, that is sound with the hyposthesis that the most non-polar solvent would most easily dissolve a non-polar substance.
I think that high quality bark can have up tp 2%, at least I think I've read such results sometimes.
I think...
I don't think anything is pushed anywere. And emulsions is just a mixture of a polar and non-polar slovent hold together by a emulsifier, a molecule that had a polar and non-polar part. The base just makes the alkaloid from salt to freebase and from soluble from polar to non-polar.
Your...
I don't really understand what you mean by 'pushing emulsions in the non-polar'? But it's only the alkaloids that go there. The high pH is to degrade plantmaterials that work as emulsifiers.
the PH 13 is because to break emulsions.
(dmt has a pKa around 9 so pKa+2 should extract 99% of the alkaloids)
chloroform and toluene both work but extract a lot of more stuff. especially with toluene you extract a yellow/orange spice which is called jungle spice by most and this is a lot...
Persoonlijk ben ik wel een voorstander van een zo puur mogelijk product. Misschien maakt het niet uit voor het effect, maar de rook kan wel zachter zijn en lijkt mij toch minder gezond als je bijproducten gaat inhaleren.
Zelf heb ik slechte ervaring met een ammoniawas. Denk dat recrystallisatie...
Hoe warmer de oplossing des te meer kan oplossen. Ik zou wat laten verdampen zodat de oplossing bijna verzadigd is en dan opnieuw uit te kristalliseren in de vriezer, en inderdaad koude oplossing snel afgieten filtreren anders lost het dus weer op en heb je verlies.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ... /dmt.shtml
under: 'the high' you find a nice comparison between N,N and 5-meo.
never tried it, I am also curious, it seems to me that it's visualy less interesting but it seems that there is no consensus if it mentally more...
No the calculations are wrong, as I said you don't know (at least I never saw any reference) how the molecule looks like, you asume that one mole of mescaline is attachted to one mole of salt.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescali ... try1.shtml
here you find:
Sulfate: In the sulfate...
I have never heard of this where do you find your info? You should be carefull giving advise if you don't know where you talk about.
smoking indeed works shorter but is most off the time far more intense!
Well in the end it doesn't matter I guess how 'strong' it is> That only says how much you have to take by weight, it doesn't changed the amount of mescaline. I never read anywhere if they are mono-mescaline or bi-mescaline or mescaline-bi. If someone knows it's easy to calculate. But it still...
Yes with filtration you already loose a lot a fats.
with recrystallisation you let the crystals form as slow as possible and because the crystals like to attach to other crystals then to other stuff, the crystals are more pure because less unwanted stuff is entrapped between the...
Sorry little late but it's not smart to use acetone, dmt easily dissolves here and you will loose product.
Indeed if you use a little ice-cold acetone you can use for cleaning but still loose product.
That why I still use A/B extractions, you use less OH, (although very little water will mix...
Most brands contain equal mixtures of the S(+) and R(-) isomers (racemic ketamine), but at least one brand has been found to contain only the S(+) isomer. According to Jansen, S(+) ketamine is more likely to suppress breathing, induces a faster loss of consciousness, and has a quicker recovery...
Het hangt af wat je voor gebruik hebt, als je grammen afweegt zoals paddos of wiet willen deze wel werken maar je kan niet en kwaliteit en nauwkeurigheid verwachten zonder geld uit te geven.
Een goedkope schaal zal zelfs al bij 0,05 onnauwkeurig zijn, bij de noodzakelijke calibratie zie je dat...
In 1 keer uitdampt? Dit is onzin!
Je informatie klopt wel, Als je een oplossing hebt die nog niet verzadigd is, dus overmaat vloeistof, zullen pas kristallen onstaan wannneer dit verzadigingspunt is bereikt. Des te langzamer de vloeistof verdampt des te meer tijd heeft de dmt om uit te...
You still work with A/B extraction?
- Maybe next time do a hot non-polar wash
(when the salt form is in the acid water, the hotter both fluids the more fat will go to the naphta already, wash it 3-4 times)
- and after basifying a cold extraction
(this takes as less possible fats along with the...
Sorry had verkeerd gespeld. Wordt coleman fuel gespeld. Camping-/kampeerwinkels.
Een zoektocht op internet doet wonderen, ook wat betreft TEK's. Als je iets graag wilt moet je bereid zijn dit willen te begrijpen en energie in te steken.
Sommige TEK's zijn in principe niet ingewikkelder maar...
terpentine is geen zuivere nafta
nafta is petroleum-ether en geen petroleum
nafta komt meer overeen met wasbenzine, maar is ook niet zuiver.
colemann fuel is schat ik minstens zo zuiver als zippo fuel maar goedkoper(ik heb nog nooit last gehad van resten)
Het is verder een makkelijke methode...
You are confusing two things. If you freeze things cells form plants can break but crystals won't.
The colder, the slower molecules "move", the slower reaction rates, so better conservation. Just keep it airtight.
I wanted to make a topic, for the growers of outdoor cannabis in more rainy and colder climates.
I was thinking about factors like early harvast, mold resistant, big yields, high potency, or just seem to grow easy without pH regulation and these controlling factors.
So which strains you have...
I actually never filtered. I just decanted the liquid. The crystals where stuck to walls.
I think you doing well already by putting the filter already in the freezer. You have to work fast of course cause when it warms up a little it will dissolve again in the naphta, it wont dissapear into...
Why God never received a PhD
He had only one major publication.
It was in Hebrew.
It had no references.
It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
His cooperative efforts have been...
Yes really great!
Now when there is a crisis we may use it, and pay a lot of taxas for a plant that grows for free all over the world, and immediatly we have a membershipcart/id so that the whole government knows who all the marihuana users are, this will save a lot off efforts when it we make...
You also have to no more then this, for example, when working with strong basic solutions, you can't let the mixture let in the glass for a long time cause the glass will break after a while. Better use HDPE = PE-HD (triangle with number 2). Also when using a pan, you can not use aluminium with...
This is a STB tek (straight to base) I think the A/B Tek is older. It will work fine. This extraction is faster and more simple but you need more base and petroleum-ether, you probably have more problems with emuslions too and have to do more work at the end to purify your product.
If you are not experienced with high doses, maybe you want a good tripsitter you trust to watch you for safety. Just lay down and stay down, only walk when you have to pee.
You can acidify by making a waterlayer, add acid, just shake it and let separate.
Salting out with methanol can't wotk because mescaline salt is very soluble in that.
If you have access to all this why not use toluene or xylene, yields look poor.
I am very interested how much mescaline each...
I think I got this one from time2poop
http://www.thenook.org/
You have to 'log in' to see al forums.
This one also had a lot of interesting info
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/
"Trichocereus Bridgesii is not a potent cactus at all"
I wonder where this conclusion is based on cause I've read statements on two other forums that have a lot of cacti experts and also share a lot more info both on (sub)species and it's growing as on extractions.
I don't think that's easy to say, every species contains subspecies, and even they contain individual differences in alkaloid contains. But the main alkaloid remains mescaline and others ranging only from 1-10%, I know one of them makes you very sleepy. I think differences are only very subtile...
I believe it not about that it wouldn't give an interesting experience but about the side effects, like extreme nausea, vomiting, stomach irritation, headaches, that can last for a week, makes it that some other psychedelics are better alternatives.
Caduceus, an example not involving GOD.
In the thread "drugs and the paranormal" you said:
Wow, both took a deliriant, and both lost touch with reality!!
What are the odds of that happening?!
maybe I am crazy but I read some sarcasm in that, seems not respectfull to me.
I then on purpose...
For the dutch(sorry guys don't have time to translate). what about this one? Just a coincidental delusion?
In een filmreportage van Paul van de Bosch uit de jaren zeventig, destijds vertoond door de VPRO, zagen we een angstige Peruaanse Indiaan die een genezer komt consulteren over zijn...
Because they changed the law in the Netherlands it is only available as a prescription drugs from 18th of June. So I thought I picked my chance. I did an extraction and had two capsules with about 300 mg each. Took one and after two hours felt nothing special and took the other one. Still not...
Well I don't know if it's appropriate but some one else here told me about thenook.org. When you are registred there is a section, ionic virtual laboratory, here you can find a lot of info about extractions. I also look often at dmt-nexus.com.
Maybe there are some other good ones too, if...
pH 11 is probably high enough to extract most of the alkaloids, the problem is that the waterfase has a high viscosity so often you have problems with emulsions, between 12-13 the viscosity drops significant so the layers separate much more easier.
With 'drytek' no water is used. A dry base powder like magnesiumhydroxide or calciumhydroxide is mixed with the plant material being almost dry the non-polair solvant is added.
So did some more research and saw indeed that more people have tried naphta, I am still not sure how yields and purity are in comparison.
I also read about a drytek, I even never heard of it before. So guess I have some new research to do.
I have a little thing with the taste too, not that it's nice or something but it immediatly gives me a feeling of familiarity. Just as with the experience that is like a 'welcome back'.
I disagree that's abuse. You can also say that taking MAOi's, inhibting your natural own body enzymes is...
First always wait till emulsions completly separate, there can be a significant amount of dmt in it, you can't afford a loss with such a smal quantity. If you did they where probably fats.
If you had little white stuff it would probably the dmt, but if the solution is not saturated you can't...
Pure nn-dmt is crystal clear. Yellow is from impurities, so if you did an extensive defat the naphta is clear.
Heartcore (I probably already told you), try coleman fuel, I think the quality isn't less maybe even better. And it sure is cheaper. You can buy it in a campingstore.
I've only saw one TEK before that uses naphta, all the others seems to use toluene or xylene. Also I've read some things on using d-limonene but I think it's quite new.
I tried to extract with acid first too and ended up with nothing. Well I had pretty nice with crystals but it was probably a mix with salt, other plant materials or maybe mescaline carbonate(big change if you tried to evaported the freebase ypu have this too, you can have 1g salt while maybe...
What did you use, HCl?
Well if it's white it's probably quite pure.
So you what excactly did you do?
Did you extraced with acidwater, then basifyied, extract with naphta acidified with HCl and then simply evaporated the water.
Or did you put the cactus directly in basified water and...
The solubility is for the freebase. The polar salt would never dissolve in a non-polar solution. Then maybe it is possible but I assume you suffered quite some loss or the Merck index is wrong.
True you have different petroleum-ethers (naphta), more or less pure and more or less low/high...
I guess you mean when you salted out your mescaline in the water already?
This is possible, but of course you have to know how much you have to make a saturated solution else you would have significant losses, so it good for recrystallisation, especially with the sulphate since it's nearly...
Well, I hate to work my ass of to make a living, paying 60% taxes, and some other guy who can work but just don't want it is spending my money on anything.
I didn't build this system but I worked hard and adjust myself so my wife and kids have a little future perspective. Then we have a social...
I am not saying it can't happen. I am just saying if they government needs it now for money they propably do it, but remember things will change back just as easily when it becomes a thread for them, and then you are as easily put in jail as before.
Change! like with Obama?
It's funny how to see how people fall again and again in the same trap of propaganda, if people knew their history people would know:
'Their is nothing new under the sun that's not written down from genesis to revalation' as they say. T
the same shit with power and...
1,5g till 2 g says nothing, what species? fresh or dried? I assume you mean the 'mexicans'. 1,5g should be a good start although I don't know if it's suited if you already got scared from Marihuana.
Yes very recognizable, I have problems falling asleep all my life also because of running thoughts. I am so jelous at people who can fall asleep I a second. I believe it's already a fact that your rest isn't better while sleeping on cannabis. The productivity is a fact too I believe.
For me...
I was wondering why we see so much more literature about the therapeutic uses of LSD? Is this because circumstances or does it really have some therapeutic advantages over psilocybin, mescaline and other psychedelics?