little help with extraction

[aryaman]

Can you tell me what I've done wrong?
It's just a Noman's tek

1:22,5:1,5:1,5
MHRB:water:NaOH:solvent

1225 ml distilled water - added 75 g NaOH, let it dissolve
50 gr of MHRB powder was add
stir, let sit for 1 hour

PH>11, about 12

added 70 ml of non-polar solvent (zippo lighter fluid, didn't find anything better),
stir, let the layer separate (x3), then pick up the naphta with a turkey baster
little to no emulsion present, but the liquid looked too transparent to me

did again, then put the jar with mimosa in hot water, added 5 gr og NaOH to avoid little bubbles coming, zippo lighter fluid and again took.


the 3 washes of solvent are in my freezer.
One had some white little stuffs, so I poured out the solvent to another little jar, but that white stuff dissolved in liquid in less then a minute. Was that emulsion?
also another jar has those white stuff.

Is that just emulsion?
Are there big mistakes in the procedure?

thanks guys =)

 

[IJesusChrist]

where the fucks your acid bro.

dont skip the acidification. this brings the shit out. I don't know what direct basification will do, but I don't think its what your intent is going to be.

 

[aryaman]

I used a Straight To Base, don't need to acidify for that

 

[IJesusChrist]

I cant really tell what you did.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

K you added base, let sit for a day+

Add naptha. (or zippo...)

Take out the naptha, and save it.

The naptha will be on top when it settles (this will only be a liquid with/out bubbles).
It will be light yellow, the other shit will be red/brown/pink - this is the empty cells and other shit that you have taken the DMT out of.

Emulsions almost always form if you add your non-polar solvent to the basic bunch of powder or sticks your using.

SO.
Base, wait 1day+
Non-polar solvent, 2day+
Top of these 2 mixes will be your solvent with DMT.
Let evaporate (not under your nose or you will get cancer and regret this)

 

[Meduzz]

Theoretically, straight-to-base extractions will cause the alkaloids in the plant material to remain deprotonated and thus electrically neutral, so that they will not easily dissolve into the water. The high pH that breaks down the cell walls compensates a bit for this, but with acidic extraction you force the alkaloids into solution.

 

[IJesusChrist]

Theoretically, straight-to-base extractions will cause the alkaloids in the plant material to remain deprotonated and thus electrically neutral, so that they will not easily dissolve into the water. The high pH that breaks down the cell walls compensates a bit for this, but with acidic extraction you force the alkaloids into solution.

1+

 

[aryaman]

this is a very used tek, BUT I was not asking if it's good or not. I've already done, so my only question is what is that white stuff at the bottom of the jars, since I filtered naphta and there were no crystals, and they dissolve in less then a minute if lived out of the freezer.

 

[Ultima]

i dont get it.. why not let the naptha dry out? SWIM almost threw out his first flush of naptha the very first time he made it.. he didnt think it worked.. but sure enough once it completely dried out, he was left with almost .5 of pure dmt crystals.. he sure is glad he didnt flush the product

 

[GOD]

You havent been paying attention have you ? Things around the world given the name naptha arent nesecerily the same product and dont always evaporate at the temperature yours does , and it STINKS through the whole neighbourhood and not all of us want to kill the atmosphere .

 

[Jahvisions]

First always wait till emulsions completly separate, there can be a significant amount of dmt in it, you can't afford a loss with such a smal quantity. If you did they where probably fats.

If you had little white stuff it would probably the dmt, but if the solution is not saturated you can't filter it out because when it warms up a little it immediatly dissolves. I always evaported everything, then dissolve again in as little has possible hot naphta, add a little more naphta (else the solution is to saturated and the crystals fill form immediatly and the recrystallisation is off no use) Cover it cool to roomtemp, cool in the fridge, cool in the fridge, immedialtly filter.

Technical when speaking about naphta we mean petroleum-ether, and this is a mix of hydrocarbons. The longer the 'chains' the higher the boiling point, so it will take more time to evaporates. Adding a little warmth and/or blowing air over it will speed up the process

 

[IJesusChrist]

First always wait till emulsions completly separate, there can be a significant amount of dmt in it, you can't afford a loss with such a smal quantity. If you did they where probably fats.

If you had little white stuff it would probably the dmt, but if the solution is not saturated you can't filter it out because when it warms up a little it immediatly dissolves. I always evaported everything, then dissolve again in as little has possible hot naphta, add a little more naphta (else the solution is to saturated and the crystals fill form immediatly and the recrystallisation is off no use) Cover it cool to roomtemp, cool in the fridge, cool in the fridge, immedialtly filter.

Technical when speaking about naphta we mean petroleum-ether, and this is a mix of hydrocarbons. The longer the 'chains' the higher the boiling point, so it will take more time to evaporates. Adding a little warmth and/or blowing air over it will speed up the process

SO DMT Crystallizes in freezer? How much do you lose in still dissolved naptha solution that you filter out?! It's not negligible is it??

 

[GOD]

Do you think we need it in stereo each time ? Its boreing when you , or anyone else , keep copying whole posts for no reason . Do you think we are blind or are you just a total dickhead ?

 

[IJesusChrist]

Sorry it's a habit I'll try n stop.

 

[GOD]

Thanks .

 

[HeartCore]

this is a very used tek, BUT I was not asking if it's good or not. I've already done, so my only question is what is that white stuff at the bottom of the jars, since I filtered naphta and there were no crystals, and they dissolve in less then a minute if lived out of the freezer.

My guess is aim for PH 13, not 11/12. A guy I know did not succeed going for a PH of 11. 13 worked like a charm though. He (and he has a chemical background) says that PH 11 will turn the spice into snot, not into crystals. I would not know myself but I did many extractions, aimed for a PH 13 everytime and never got dissatisfied by the results/yield.