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JustinNed

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Just imagine how hard it is for you to quit cigs, try something like Heroin or Meth, that's a real ordeal. ;)
 

scamie

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thxs guys, the suggestions you gave i have tried in the past and they are really the best ways to qiut.
probably its also an psychological something that makes me want to smoke again!!
and i think i know what it is!!
But dissapointment about myself with starting again.. is such an energy loss.
I really am going to stop again... i will pick my day!!
:D
 

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JustinNed a dit:
Just imagine how hard it is for you to quit cigs, try something like Heroin or Meth, that's a real ordeal. ;)

A friend of mine who used to be a heroin addict told me that a lot of users agree that cigarettes are harder to quit with.

Makes sense to me... The disadvantages of tobacco are more long term and more subtle than those of heroin.

Also, when you quit heroin, you don't see people shooting on the streets or on parties, as with tobacco, it's all around.

+ If you smoke, you're an adult :wink:
 
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JustinNed a dit:
Just imagine how hard it is for you to quit cigs, try something like Heroin or Meth, that's a real ordeal. ;)

Even junkies now it's harder to quit nicotine then all the others.
I agree with Meduzz.
But I don't think heroin and meth should be used just to find out that fact :roll:
 

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On Monday, May 12th, the six O'Clock Show at the International Harm Reduction Conference in Barcelona hosted a ‘User’s Choice’ session on Ibogaine, supported by INPUD. We have filmed and edited the whole session, you can watch it below in four parts. It does worth your time!

http://www.drogriporter.hu/en/ibogainesession
 

CaptainTrips

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I believe that the Iboga spirit is willing to help, as long as you put trust into it...you have to really want to quit.

Your addiction has to be one of physical withdrawal (including psychological)...and you must be willing to forever give up the substance. After that, attempt an Iboga clinic (I don't approve really...but Iboga is unable to be found on the streets).

Iboga can and will help, it has saved many addicts with even more severe conditions, literally cutting heroin withdrawal in it's tracks. But even if the psychical withdrawal is done, your mind might still crave it. Do not consider it a instant fix, but more a step towards mental and physical freedom.
 

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Also, when you quit heroin, you don't see people shooting on the streets or on parties, as with tobacco, it's all around.

That's a grand reason :cry: it's the same with alcohol, too: it is very hard not to drink when you go out and all your friends are drinking.
 
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SWIM created a new ibogaine and iboga torrent, more vidoes, more ebooks, better structured and named and more up to date scientific articles. Please check it out, if you like it support it (keep seeding it) and don't seed/download the old one anymore, please.

For those interested in Iboga/Ibogaine:

Here you can find a collection of Iboga/Ibogaine documentaries. Quite interesting. You need BitTorrent to download it, which is easily found and not hard to install/configure.
The Download Link:Iboga and Ibogaine Collection
http://www.h33t.com/details.php?id=8e59 ... 87b534fe05
that's whats in it:

A collection of Videos, Literature and Pictures of Iboga, Ibogaine and the Bwiti with a focus on the anti-addictive and healing properties of Ibogaine.

Ibogaine/Iboga has been shown to possibly help treating Addiction (Nicotine, Opioids, Opiates, Crack, Cocaine, Alcohol, Kratom, Methamphetamine, Amphetamine, etc.), Depression, Anxiety and other psychological or psychosomatic diseases as well as to help spiritual seekers.

==================== |||-----Table of Contents----|||====================

----|?___Movies & Videos___?|----
+ Movies (7 files):
-Facing the Habit
-Iboga Therapy House
-Ibogaine - Rite of Passage
-Ibogaine Therapy
-One Life - Detox or Die
-The Prince of Pot and Ibogaine Therapy
-Ibogaine - The ENDABUSE Report

+ News Clips (7 files)
+ Scientific/Ethnopharmacologic Videos & Reports (22 files)
+ Testimonies & Experience Reports (31 files)
+ Videos on Bwiti Culture & Iboga Usage (10 files)

----|?___Literature___?|----
+ eBooks (12 files):
-Ibogaine - Proceedings from the First International Conference
-Alkaloids - Chemistry and Biology of Ibogaine (Chps.11-16)
-Pharmacodynamics and Therapeutic Applications of Iboga and Ibogaine
-Ibogaine Therapy: A Uncontrolled Experiment?
-Breaking Open the Head - Daniel Pinchbeck
-Drug-Abuse Handbook
-Drug Metabolism in Pharmaceuticals
-Fear and Loathing - On The Campaign Trail '72
-Psychedelics Encyclopedia (3rd Edition) - Stafford, Peter
-Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Dummies
-Hallucinogenic Plants - A Golden Guide
-Timothy_Leary_-_The_Psychedelic_Experience NOT DIRECTLY IBOGA RELATED

+ Manuals & FAQs Usage and Treatment with Iboga (13 files)
e.g.: -forms and dose regimen
-the big iboga FAQ
-How to make an Extract
-Iboga Therapy Guiding Principles
-Manual for Ibogaine Therapy
-Treatment of Acute Opioid Withdrawal with Ibogaine
-Treatment with for opioids, alcohol, stimulants and benzodiazepines

+ Bwiti Culture & Iboga Usage (8 files)
+ Newspapers and Magazine Articles (33 files)
+ more than 350 Scientific Articles on Iboga, Ibogaine and related
e.g.: -Assessment of neurotoxicity of ibogaine testing and brain imaging
-Derivatves of the ibogaine alkaloids
-Facilitation of Memory Retrieval by the 'Anti-addictive' Alkaloid Ibogaine
-Fatalities after taking ibogaine
-18-Methoxy-Coronaridin-studies (25)
-Patents relating to Ibogaine
-Ibogaine neurotoxicity- a re-evaluation
-Ibogaine therapy - Addictions - New approaches to Treatment
-Life after Ibogaine - An exploratory study of the long-term effects of ibogaine
-Mechanisms of Anntiaddictive Actions of Ibogaine
-The ibogaine medical subculture
-TiHKAL on Ibogaine

The .PDF files have to be opened with Adobe Acrobat (Reader).
You can download it for free here: http://get.adobe.com/reader/

----|?___Pictures___?|----
+ Ibogaine Related Pictures
+ Ibogaine inspired Art
+ Bwiti/Tribal photographs
+ Iboga (plant & preparation) pictures


Also see the provided .txt files for further Links, Videos, Information etc.
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Enjoy. And please help against the drug slavery that can destroy our society.

Ibogaine treatment can be done safely in an clinical setting, Dr Deborah Mash have safely treated more than 400 persons in her clinic. It is very important to realise that the ibogaine treatment is not for everyone and that the exclusions criteria has to be followed rigorously, like with other very potent medicines in general.

In case you consider doing a treatment, please consult the provided Videos and Literature and do extensive research and spend time thinking about this. THERE ARE DANGERS AND RISKS TO IBOGAINE TREATMENT, but they can be minimized if certain things are paid attention to. Do not treat yourself. Do your research. Do know what you are doing!

This torrent is the 3rd update of the previous torrent "Death drugs and a possible solution" as well as "IBOGA ebook and video collection about ibogaine". Please do not continue seeding these, instead seed this new torrent. It features a lot more and up to date articles (till early 2010), more ebooks, more Movies and Videos (especially testimonials) as well as pictures and an update link structure. Also, several files have been reduced in size while keeping the same quality, and the formats have been changed to .avi for better compatibility (no real-player files). Also the filenames and folder-structure has been overhauled for easier use.

PLEASE SEED THIS TORRENT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. This torrent may potentially and actually save peoples lifes or change them for the better. No one looses money through this torrent, no Music CDs and Cinema Movies are provided, there is no risk for you. However, seeding this will help keep this torrent alive and provide information to the people who need it.
Thank you.

THE POSSIBLE DANGER OF IBOGAINE TREATMENT IS OBVIOUSLY TO A LARGE DEGREE THE ILLEGALIZER'S RESPONSIBILITY'S, THE TREATMENTS WOULD BE A LOT SAFER IN A HOSPITAL SETTING AND MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE FREE FROM THE SLAVERY OF ADDICTIVE DRUGS.

SEED AS LEAST AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED...PLEASE! 'If we all seed just 1:1, give at least what we take, this torrent will NEVER DIE'
Please seed as much as possible.
BitTorrent program:http://www.utorrent.com/ (others are also available, for every system and taste)
- if you do download it, please keep it seeding a bite (uploading to others who want it) or at best "forever", as this benefits everyone who is interested in this magic and very uncommon medicine.

If one has specific questions about Ibogaine/Iboga feel free to PM me. I'll answer if the answers can't be found out be reading this thread or using the search engine. Especially general advise is sth i think i can provide as well as place to go to / email / etc. where information about Iboga treatment can be found.
 

Guigz

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Thanks for this.
 

Jamapricotica

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I haven't seen very much about Iboga in these forums.

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Bruce Parry has done some amazing trips and has encounterd some wonderfull tribes and people, He is an ex-British Marine I think and has done alot of documentarys for the BBC (British TV channel). From staying with monks in Tibet to taking ayahuasca in the rain forest with different tribes, He's truelly done the lot.

Infact I once saw an episode where he stayed with an african tribe and the males when out hunting wrapped thier penis in a leaf and pushed it up inside themselves a funny way. Bruce was all game, a little nervous but game none the less. When the tribes man performed the wrap and tuck poor old Bruce nearly vomited and passed out, Luckily he remained conscious from what we saw on the camera but it looked like he really did not like that :lol:

On the Iboga side of things I have heard that it has mainly been looked at to help people over come addiction, I know its a root and I know very little of the experience one may have if consumed. I imagine it to be very introspective tho to possess qualities to beat addiction.
 

Jamapricotica

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This post has been edited by me, Jamapricotica, for the simple reason that I am attempting to cleanup and/or improve my presence on this forum.

Sorry for any inconveniences this may cause.
 

Catblack

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I'm curious to hear about anyone's encounter with tabernanthe iboga or its extracts. I'm particularly intereted in people who've used it not just for opiate detox, but as a psychedelic in its own right.

How does it compare to the better-known psychedelics? Is it the same kind of effect, or is it in a totally different class?
 
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This is from another forum.

This was my fourth flood, and my second time using TA extract. Two close friends joined me, and it was their first time with iboga. Dosage was 25g of root bark per person. 1.5g of this was ingested as unprocessed root bark alongside the TA, and another 1.5g was kept as post session booster doses per person. In addition I ingested 500mg on each of the two days before the flood, with the intention of introducing iboga to my system and get it resonating with it prior to ingesting the flood dose (the Bwiti dose gradually before taking the final flood dose). The TA was prepared via the vinegar tek, so only distilled vinegar was used in creating the extract, keeping things au natural. The root bark chips were powdered in a coffee grinder prior to the extraction. The tek is very simple to perform, and if one is in a rush, they can have extract ready from scratch in a day. I wasn’t however and opted for a longer term vinegar soak on a friend’s advice, the first soak was 5 days, the second 2 days, the third a night. The first pull was by far the darkest, it seems like this gets the bulk of the alkaloids out. This tek is incredibly simple, low cost and stress free to perform, produces a potent and clean extract and makes things MUCH cheaper than buying your own extracts. So if people are interested in using TA or iboga alkaloid extracts I highly recommend they extract themselves.

On the day, we ate some fruit and had some fresh vegetable juice for breakfast, and then we drank water throughout the day. Early on we each ingested 500mg of root bark, to test for sensitivities or any allergic responses, and let people get a feel for iboga and get their systems resonating with it. A few hours later we had another 500mg. The day was spent outside in nature in the sun, walking and chilling. My friends were impressed with the feeling of the iboga at that level, and there was a definite clarity felt from fasting. They had made the effort to come up really late the night before so we could have the day to get settled in and ready for the experience ahead. Prior to the session we put the TA in capsules...it really helps to make sure it is completely dry. I oven dried mine at a low temperature, but only the top layer was dry, beneath that it was still gloopy and sticky. So it helps to expose this and make sure it is dry too, otherwise preparing capsules can become an exercise in patience and perseverance!

A room was all prepared with beds alongside each other. Iboga definitely isn’t a social thing, I’m not sure we really talked much at all for the first 20 hours, but having companions there going through their own journeys is good for morale, and great for re-entry. The yield I got with the TA was lower than I had expected, I didn’t weigh it but I could tell from the amount of capsules I used that it was lower than others were reporting for the equivalent amount of root bark with this tek. Two hours prior to dosing we stopped drinking water, and then took half of our TA dose (4 capsules) along with 500mg of root bark powder, to provide the essence of the whole plant. The dosing part was very easy which I liked...my second experience was with 14g of root bark, which meant ingesting 28 capsules. Here I was only ingesting 9 capsules in total, which were being split between two dosings. An hour later we took the second half of our dose. We relaxed for a bit and when we started to feel the iboga we switched to candle light, put some Bwiti music on and climbed into bed. We did not have a full time sitter or guide on hand, I don’ think one is necessary and feel that iboga is both the experience and the guide and knows exactly how to go to work on you, but my mum was around in case of any problems. She has been initiated with iboga herself so knows the ropes. While I don’t think one needs a sitter, it is definitely a good idea to have someone trusted on hand just in case of any problems; better safe than sorry.

Dosing like this, the iboga got to work quickly which I liked. I do think from experience that one’s initiation flood is the special one in terms of visions. This experience took me deep, but the visions never reached the spectacular grandeur they did on my initiation, but they took me deep enough to the place where I could perceive thought as 3D images in front of me. I had mentioned this before to my friends, and one of them experienced it to a strong degree and had a great time playing around with this, it’s a really special tool to possess for a while. While my third eye was open again and there were visions going on, my session was more focussed on the therapeutic as oppose to visionary aspects of iboga. It is funny the way iboga works, I almost feel these therapeutic insight happen almost when you’re not looking. I did look into events from my past, but not to the same extent as on my initiation. More recent events were looked at in more detail. Interestingly, I think I found a group of filing cabinets I cleaned out on my initiation...I had a look in these but they were still empty which was cool. We listened to Bwiti music for around 15 hours. Even when it was off, for many hours afterwards I could hear it in other music we played and other noises, and I could tune into it with my mind despite it not being played anymore. Interesting how the patterning of the sound stays with you like this, I got this profoundly on my initiation also, where the sound of the rain outside kept the Bwiti music playing in my head long after it was turned off.

I really got a strong sense this time, as did my friends, that iboga is a master healer and you are its patient. It is a defrag and detox agent par excellence. It puts you in this state of limbo...all desire for intoxicants, food, water, sleep and movement are gone, and I believe iboga deactivates these important drives in the brain, while incapacitating you with ataxia and numbing you, to give it the time to do its work and you the time and space you need to reflect. It is rare to be liberated of all these primal survival drives at one time. But you aren’t bored either...one is content to lie in bed for a day and a half, something which would be hard to do while sober. Around 20 hours after dosing, we went for a little wander. One of my friends wanted to get out of bed before night fell for the second time. We went for a little walk but all soon realised we not yet ready for the world of the vertical. It took a little effort and energy to maintain balance and walk, and nausea began to creep back, and we felt apathetic and numb. So after a brief stint outside, we admitted we were far from ready to be up and about, and headed back and got into bed. An interesting thing about dosing around the same time rather than staggering over a longer period is that one is sooner able to move without much difficulty much sooner which I liked. This day crawled along at a snail’s pace...not in a bad way but I don’t think I’ve ever known such a long day.

Neither of my friends purged, or felt much in the way of nausea with the TA which I didn’t expect. My nausea was off and on. We had buckets by the bed just in case. It was walking to the toilet long after dosing which prompted my purge, and it was a great deep cleansing release, despite some acid bile getting in my nostrils. I felt a little hot at times, but this passed and cannot compare to the feverish heat I experienced on my session with root bark, which reminded me a bit of Dengue fever I caught in Vietnam.

My friends seemed to have more powerful visions than I, which is interesting as we were all on the same dose, I definitely feel your first time is your most special in terms of visions, so I would recommend a fair dose that first time. Either way you’re going to be incapacitated for a day and a half, you may as well journey deeply! Both friends experienced being able to see the outline of the room around them with their eyes closed vividly, and they both experienced scenes of death and sex, and acts of sexual violence. These seem to be pretty common with iboga, but I can’t say I’ve experienced them really. It does seem to affect the primal part of the brain dealing with this. Sex and death are the two key driving forces behind evolution, and are a very important component of our humanity and history as a species. My friends witnessed some pretty graphic scenes, but they felt they were witnessing the horror in a detached stance, so it didn’t really affect them emotionally. It is interesting, as for me, I have never felt any fear or anxiety on iboga. I really seem numb to these kind of feelings while on it, it’s like that part of the brain is anaesthetised. It makes me wonder whether iboga could assist people with PTSD. My friends were expecting iboga to be a much more intense experience in some ways and were surprised at just how soft a touch it had, and so would be interested to one day use it again, knowing the ropes as it were. My mum felt the same way when she was initiated. I really feel that the traditional psychedelics have the potential to be much more emotionally unpredictable and volatile than iboga, at least in my experience.

Both of my friends encountered African imagery and African people strongly. I did on my initiation too. One of my friends’ most treasured experiences was encountering a group of very ancient humans. He felt like he was looking at the most ancient human beings, the early, ancestral Homo sapiens. He thought that it may have been his knowledge he had ingested an African plant that were affecting these visions. So he made sure to scrutinise and study these people. He said the detail on their faces was utterly clear and incredibly detailed and realistic, and that he’s never had an experience like this. It was like he was in a well and was looking up towards them. Each time one of them passed, as well as fully seeing the detail in their faces, they would maintain direct eye contact with him. This was a passive experience in that there was no interaction or communication beyond this, but he felt the experience was very deep and very special.

My other friend experienced more African imagery, and more images or violence and war. She felt detached from this though, and felt she was witnessing scenes representing our past. A past we may not wish to acknowledge at times, but an important component of our past nonetheless. On one’s initiation, there seems to be a defining moment when the experience commences. For myself it was my third eye opening, and beneath that a tunnel opening, taking me to the iboga realm. For my mum it was encountering an African girl around a fire in a village who smiled and waved at her. For this friend it was some flowers blossoming in different vibrant beautiful colours...I thought this was interesting as she is very green fingered and loves her plants, it seems iboga feels out and makes itself compatible with one’s individual psychology. She also said she had a very positive and very special experience where she strongly felt she encountered the spirit of her dead grandmother. She was looking over a scene in an African village and strongly felt, rather than saw, her grandmother’s spirit over her left shoulder. The emotional feeling that accompanied this she felt was just like how she felt with her grandmother when she was alive. Really interesting this encountering of ancestors, both recent and very ancient. I know the Bwiti use iboga in flood doses as part of the initiation to go to the land of the dead and speak with the ancestors. I wonder what exactly people are encountering in this realm, and whether iboga allows one to tune into genetic memories. My friends and I are both pretty sure that there is something really deep and significant going on here; and that to attempt to explain it away as simple projections of African imagery from the knowledge that this is an African plant would be tantamount to scientific or psychological reductionism that would miss out on the full story. I’m sure this explanation could explain some of the imagery, just not all of it.

We dosed on the Friday night around 9. Visions lasted much of the night, and then we were in a reflective state from then until late on Saturday night where we fell asleep. By Saturday night, noribogaine levels were getting much higher so we were getting amazing visual trails and flashes of bright white light with movement of the eyes, what the Bwiti refer to as ‘white birds’. On the Saturday night when I finally fell asleep I had frantic, fun and really vivid dreams. Think I slept lightly but felt much better after it. One doesn’t get over iboga until they first fall asleep. This is when your brain is reset after the defrag. We awoke late Sunday morning feeling great. It was a beautiful sunny day so we spent it outside in the sun, walking and chilling and smoking a few joints. We were in really high spirits, prone to laughing, and it was great to have people there for this stage of the experience. At night we made a fire outside, had a mug each of strong hot cocoa and smoked a few more joints. It was a great end to a really great day. The combination of cannabis with iboga worked well...I know it is one of the few things used alongside iboga in central Africa at times. The noribogaine kept things lucid, clear and upbeat, it was a nice combination. We all felt very content throughout the day, so content we didn’t talk much at times.

We all slept very deeply on Sunday night and awoke feeling great on Monday. After a nice breakfast my friends parted ways. A number of different people have remarked how great I look following the iboga, and I could see this in my friends. I mean I have been gardening lots in the sun, in fresh air and nature, and have been eating healthily before hand, but people were adamant that I had a really healthy glow about me and were looking really clear in my complexion. I certainly feel really good...grounded, content, at peace, serene, calm, clear, focussed. I still feel this strongly. The feeling after iboga, and the fact that it remains with you for some time, is alone almost enough to warrant taking iboga I feel. It seems you get the hangover part out of the way during the experience itself, and this powerful boost it gives you afterwards is almost a reward for going through the experience; a shining light at the end of the tunnel.

I’m a big fan of the TA extract. Unlike pure ibogaine, you get all the other alkaloids playing their part, and I think they augment, deepen and prolong the healing and the visions one receives. However I also feel that TA is much smoother on one’s system than the root bark. I think also that TA will allow one to venture much deeper into the iboga realm than eating root bark would allow, due to purging on it, and one’s system only being able to handle so much wood at any one time. I found my much lower dose of root bark I experienced to be much harder physically and psychologically, and I got feverishly hot from it for a time, the experience seemed slightly foggier and the dizziness and ataxia were MUCH worse than I’ve experienced with TA or ibogaine. I’ve also heard reports of headaches and such with the bark. So it seems to me that there are other nasties in the wood, or it may just be the wood itself. So I strongly feel that TA is both more user friendly and effective than root bark or ibogaine for flood doses in some respects, root bark I feel is great for booster or micro dosing. And for people who like to ingest their plants au natural with minimal chemical tampering, I think a simple vinegar tek ticks that box too.

Iboga is very special stuff indeed. While I’m in no rush to ingest a flood dose again, I know I will again one day, and am tempted to make it an annual or biannual event. Next time around I would have no qualms either about increasing the dosage of TA ingested, and fully intend to. Of all the shamanic plants and fungi and the one animal venom (kambo) I have experienced, I think both the depth of the healing from iboga, coupled with the long term nature of this healing, really puts iboga into a league of its own. This great Ibogaine treatment clinic.
 

Kanaromatix

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Hello all!

Is there only an english section in order to relate iboga-ibogaine experiences ? Or I'm wrong? it seems there is not any french forum about this plant and the like...

I'm french and my last experience with these substances dates back to the time when these substances were still legal in france!(..).
A pity that I can't speak a good english enough (not so easy as speaking just like now..),

Regards
 

Shadowlord

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I haven't had any experience w/ Iboga myself but my friend does work w/ addicts and runs an all Iboga/Ibogaine forum.
I don't want to spam his forum here but would be happy to pass the link to you, or anyone interested, via PM.

Or I'll post the link if the Mods approve.
 
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Ibogaine Treatment literally saved my life… from Cocaine
I was addicted to Cocaine for past a year. The Ibogaine journey I gone through was instantaneous and long lasting recovery and development. It feel’s soooo good to be free of drugs and having my life back.
 

Ouroboros

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Kanaromatix you can post your iboga experience here - Autres
I'm looking forward to read your post, Iboga tr is quiet rare.
 
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