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Sexual Abstinence

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SOMEBODY NOT ME a dit:
Semen the liquid white light of enlightenment.

¿,¿ Is sexual abstinence an issue, beyond some fetish with wet dreams, of psycho-somatics psycho-nonsensé psycho-nautics or not?, and why?
 

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I lived as a celibate for a couple of years. It's possible in an ashram or monestary, but outside such places it's very difficult to practice. You can't watch TV, can't use the Internet, and when walking outside you have to avoid being sensually stimulated by advertisements. You may handle it for a couple of months if your belief system is strong, but eventually you will "fall down".

Semen is very rich in lecithin, zinc and other brain nutrients, so the old belief that celibacy is good for the brain and eyes (the nervous system as a whole) is correct. Many mentally ill people masturbate compulsively, worsening their condition. All components of semen (prostate fluid and sperm cells) will be broken down by the body, transported into the blood stream and used for the maintenance of the brain. Orgasm itself triggers the release of dopamine, potentially creating an addictive pattern.

I'm not abstaining from sex these days, but I do practice delaying orgasm. There are some simple techniques that will allow you to make love for several hours. You will notice that after one or two hours of joyful interaction the desire for orgasm will have disappeared, and you can just stop having sex without having had one, and not mind at all. Or: you might orgasm eventually and notice that it doesn't take away your erection and you can just continue right away. You might experience some really weird things, especially when combining this "method" with the ingestion of LSD, Kanna or Yohimbe.
 

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I usually feel that I must abstain if I am going to use dreaming for the purpose of navigation. When I've had an orgasm during the day I almost never can recall the contents of my dreams the day afterwards. Though this can be another delusion on my apparently long list.
 

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I tried being abstinent for a few days (like two or three days only) before trips and mostly my trips turned into pornographic dream experiences. Not too bad, but I've had better and more fulfilling trips when they had another theme than sex - so the whole being abstinent before trips doesn't really work for me.
 

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Two or three days is a bit short for me for it to have any effect. You're right, two or three days only will only get you horny.
Try a longer, yet harder to accomplish period: 15 days at least. Energy flux from your sexual plexus will divert from itself and into "higher" circuits if you abstain long enough I believe. I sometimes even get more poetic and feel smartass if I accomplish long enough. You distill your orgasms fountain-like: upwards, and use them as psychonautic fuel. But yet maybe another to the long list... :)
 

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Don't misinterpret the word "higher" please. Sexual plexus has ontological independence, as in that it exists for itself. The word higher and the image of fountain come from the fact that eyes, mouth, ears and brain are on the head which sits higher than the rest of the body...
 

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Your nipples are a very important instrument in tantra. Tender stimulation and mindset prevents you from diving immediately to the goal of lust satisfaction.

Stroking the knuckle of your ring finger on the back of your hand is also a sensual stimulation. Of course, you know such other zones to detect. Use feathers, scarfs and soft pillows as attributes.

You can fly very subtle through the sensational motion and right before an orgasm you remain with the flow at the pre-orgasm point for hours in which you experience caring, loving and detailed intensified joyness.

If you learn how to contract your erection without or with minor stimulation, you can contract again (the muscle with which you're holding your piss), ejaculate with no release of semen. Fall back into the motion, and doing it again over and over.

There are also technique in which the woman can close her down zone tight around the man's stick. And then swing in harmony with maximal connection.

A moderated dose of pure weed, 2cb, LSD can a help a lot to even intensify the already sensual sensations of tantra.
 

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delaying gratification. you nailed me. energy rises, then overflows and proceeds to invade other areas of the psyche.
This is very important because boundaries are dissolved.

Brugmansia a dit:
If you learn how to contract your erection without or with minor stimulation, you can contract again (the muscle with which you're holding your piss), ejaculate with no release of semen. Fall back into the motion, and doing it again over and over.
The dancing snake...
 

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I actually find my creativity, and minds eye is most open when all of my physical needs have been met. I can't write unless I'm sexually satisfied, not hungry, and not thirsty.
 

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But... sex isn't a physical need, it's a physical pleasure.

One could never have sex in his whole life without problem.

Sex without love can really become an addiction.
 

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Movement or not? Closure or not?
What moves us to move in a certain direction? If you're complete is because you're eternal [?] and then you don't move and every consideration whatsoever is a bite of your own flesh and then you come back again into incompleteness because you took a part of yourself.
A snake that bites her own tail, a computer that can program itself, a pearl nod that reflects the entirety and yet it is not.
In between two bodies of Aurora did I just found this shining rock when I stood on my feet. Creator Body forged itself a spirit as emanation of its own will. This all because you run with your will, not with your feet.
And this all further down the spiral because the opposite of an absolute truth is also true: all solids vanish in wet midst.
What matter is what you do in the middle between existence and nonexistence, this thin rustle of weed that burns violet.
Vibration, temperature, fire, logos and a big big pendulum in the nothingness that connects everything.

In the end we will all love each other beyond comprehension. Delirium is a supra-rational soft whisper Grey wind coming down the mountain forest.
 

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CaduceusMercurius a dit:
Semen is very rich in lecithin, zinc and other brain nutrients, so the old belief that celibacy is good for the brain and eyes (the nervous system as a whole) is correct. Many mentally ill people masturbate compulsively, worsening their condition. All components of semen (prostate fluid and sperm cells) will be broken down by the body, transported into the blood stream and used for the maintenance of the brain. Orgasm itself triggers the release of dopamine, potentially creating an addictive pattern.

Yohimbe.

It's not this simple. Masturbating isn't bad for mentally ill people. Semen is broken down to build new semen, not for maintenance of the brain. And addiction doesn't just come from release of dopamine (even though dopamine plays a major role in addiction).
 

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I bet a lot of people are going to sleep better tonight after reading the last post..........
 

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Psychoid a dit:
But... sex isn't a physical need, it's a physical pleasure.

One could never have sex in his whole life without problem.

Sex without love can really become an addiction.
Actually from what I've read of medical journal's women actually need to have orgasms once and awhile to maintain their vaginal muscles which helps prevent incontinence. I don't think sex can ever become an addiction with or without love as long as you're not interrupting the rest of your life for it. I personally think that sex in and of itself is a very spiritual experience and that denying oneself gratification with a partner one cares for (in the sense of romantic love, or just deep friendship) is deadening to the psyche

In women it's also linked to:
-reduced depression
-better teeth
-improved posture.
-stronger immune system
-More balanced hormone levels
-less pain during menstruation
- More regular menstrual cycles

In men increased sexual activity is linked to:
-Stronger bones and muscles
- Lower cholesterol
-healthier prostate

In both:
-Reduced risk of heart disease
-Increased sense of smell
-healthier body weight
- Longer life expectancy
- Increased blood flow to brain
 

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If there are any women out there with incontinence , depression , bad posture and / or a weak imune system i can help . If you have bad teeth go to a dentist .
 

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GOD a dit:
If there are any women out there with incontinence , depression , bad posture and / or a weak imune system i can help . If you have bad teeth go to a dentist .
Hehe, I think it's more a preventative thing. Personally, in my experience I find sex itself very enlightening, and very good for putting me in a "more in touch with myself" space, because after orgasm I feel a sense of tranquility like nothing else I've experienced...
 

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Welcome to the forum .

Any ladys out there that want regulare preventative therapy can PM me , as long as they havent got bad teeth........
 

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MissDarling a dit:
GOD a dit:
If there are any women out there with incontinence , depression , bad posture and / or a weak imune system i can help . If you have bad teeth go to a dentist .
Hehe, I think it's more a preventative thing. Personally, in my experience I find sex itself very enlightening, and very good for putting me in a "more in touch with myself" space, because after orgasm I feel a sense of tranquility like nothing else I've experienced...

That's the dopamine speaking (among others) ;).
 

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Dopamine, but if you have longer sex, doesn't it release completely different sets of chemicals?

Also I agree with MissDarling. I was celibate for a long period of my life and quite frankly, it did me no good whatsoever. I've been much happier, far more creative, and more empathic even since I dropped that. Just more balanced overall. And of the people I left behind, many of them are depressed or lacking in empathy/awareness of an entire aspect of humanity. Not for me!
 

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If any ladys out there have a zink or lecithin deficiency i can supply as much oraly active daily doses as they need .
 
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