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Quid method trip report.

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I bought salvia leaves off of ebay super cheap.. and today I tried the quid method with about 15 leaves, chewing slowly over 1/2 an hour. To be fair I had also smoked a couple leaves before deciding the quid method (smoked to test that the leaves actually had salvinorin in them). I could never trip by smoking leaves, but I definitely get a very pleasant buzz off of them.

I was careful not to swallow. The taste was bad, but honestly not nearly as bad as I was expecting. I chewed the leaves for a bit over half an hour total.

About 15 minutes into it i was definitely feeling something. It came on surprisingly fast, at times I could even feel the coming up in little "waves". I was starting to forget about my body, I started processing the chewing of the leaves as if it were some sort of massive, giant crowd shouting in unison with each chew. My mouth felt like a massive void, like the size of a dam with particles rushing through it. No outward visuals yet, just feelings of various sensations overlapping.

Time really really clipped by for the next 15 minutes, it seemed more like about 5 minutes.

At the peak of the experience (about 25-60 minutes) it reminded me partially of being VERY stoned, partially of when I used to experiment smoking with 10x.. but without any sort of that bland drain on the body, and the whole plateau lasted a good 30 minutes... No outright visions per se. But peripheral vision danced... and sometimes my perspective seemed to shift. I think the most I did in this period was walk to the kitchen a couple times and note that patterns seemed to shift, and flutter, shadows seemed to waver. I listened to a little bit of music during the initial comedown and it was incredibly lush and terrific, when i closed my eyes i could see points of light and shape almost dancing with the music.

I sort of tripped on and off, at various moments I got lost in abstract columns of thought and was carried away for moments at a time. I never lost my bearings on reality completely at any point in the trip, however, although at one point I felt like I was communicating with some invisible energy field and could convince it to interact with physical objects (sort of telekinesis).. this lasted a few minutes.

I'm still coming down right now actually, quite smoothly. My body feels refreshed somehow. I think I like this salvia stuff.

My mistakes this round: doing it without any real intent. I was kind of in a rush, moving about and not really in the right headspace to relax and meditate. This would be quite lovely to experience in the summer in the forest or something. Or next time, all in the dark, listening to music.. I will also probably try more leaves as well, and see if there are higher plateaus possible with the quid method..
 
Thanks for report, I was wondering about Quid for a while, it sounds like it's much much more pleasant than smoking it. I'll have to try it out some time.
 
hey mate nice report you wrote there!! :)

i wonder if it were dried leaves or fresh ones which you were chewing. Because i have some dried leaves here, but i'm not sure, if that would work nicely or if it better should be fresh leaves for the quid method? Anyways your experience sounds as if it was a quite good one. Also i wonder, if the quid method is applicable to salvia extract.

Peace!! :weedman:
 
Well I know that the Extract I have is broken up, and wouldn't be pleasant to chew on, maybe you could stick some in the leaf when you make the quid?
 
Yeah, the leaves were dried. I bought some in bulk and still have quite a lot left, will probably try this again soon when i feel better prepared mentally to do so. If I have more positive results I will write them ;)

The leaves moisten really quickly and then you can start chewing... you will totally have a mouthful of bitter sage leaves, be ready. I couldn't fit all that many leaves in my mouth at once but as I started chewing they compacted down quite a lot and I could add a couple more in at a time. Some people chew one quid for 20 minutes and then switch it up.. I could see that working, but I didn't feel the need to. Yeah I wonder about extracts.. I've seen various "recipies" on the interwebs using salvia extract..

Afterthoughts: The chewing really becomes part of the ritual, the sensation in your mouth is amplified quite a lot (just imagine what you've already experienced about salvia and how it affects your senses, but with a mouthful of black goo :P ). Also going anywhere or doing anything is difficult.. walking/moving the body is kind of jarring as salvinorin is obviously extremely intoxicating. This one really is best for meditative states..

I'm having one of those very pleasant day-afters right now, where your body feels refreshed, and much more so than I've ever had from smoking it, I still feel sort of connected to the salvia world. Interesting that salvia is currently undergoing research for its antidepressant properties, I wonder if the pleasant aftereffect is related at all (albeit I've had a similar warm afterglow from acid as well).
 
JustinNed a dit:
Well I know that the Extract I have is broken up, and wouldn't be pleasant to chew on, maybe you could stick some in the leaf when you make the quid?

As long as the salvinorin could still be absorbed into the saliva I don't see why not.. chew away.. :)

I saw a recipie on the interwebs that used bubblegum, 300mg 5x extract and vodka all in the mouth at the same time. :lol:
 
Interesting that salvia is currently undergoing research for its antidepressant properties

Damn, this sounds interesting. It's nice to see, read and hear, that psychedelics can change your live so radically, that it will help you to get over depressions.

Greets,
Mysticwarrior.
 
Yeah, I find it interesting because many years ago (long before I ever touched psychedelics) I went through a period of depression. The doc asked me a list of 8 questions and in 5 minutes gave me a subscription to a very strong new antidepressant. illicit drugs be damned, that legal shit fucked me up more than anything else in my life. turned me into a zombie, sleeping 14 hours a day, i could say that is the period in my life where things became "fuzzy".. :D fortunately i had enough sense to stop taking the stuff and in the end all that i needed was to change my life, get away from a lifestyle that was depressing me.

I totally find that after a not too crazy lsd trip if i get a good sleep right away when i'm coming down i feel really really good the next day.. with salvia the last time i did it, i did the quid method, and the feeling lasted for days and days. weed, the exact opposite, you pay for it i find :P whether or not that has anything to do with it being an antidepressant I can't say.
 
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