NaOH question

[user_1919]

Hello,

For all those who are experienced with extracting DMT from some plant source and used NaOH in the process, I am wondering what the contents of your NaOH looked like. I am using Drano and it says it contains NaOH, but it seems there is more than one substance in there. There seems to be some metal 'strips' that looks like Magnesium strips. The bulk of the content is blue with little balls everywhere.

 

[Meduzz]

I wouldn't use that for something to ingest. You can get NaOH solutions at the hardware shop.

NaOH in solid form are white pellets, maybe those are the white balls? maybe you can sieve it

 

[user_1919]

Well I am not ingesting it. I am using it in an A&B extraction as the base. On the label it says "Contains: Sodium Hydroxide."

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Rutger]

I do not think you can use that for extraction, check this forum for more info :

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals- ... e-lye.html

Seems like the ingredients are much more than just NaOH, the problem is that you do not know if any of these ingredients will react in any way with your desired compounds and even if they do not they can give you lots of trouble with separation (especially soapy products).

 

[GOD]

The questions are , do those chemicals effect the mescaline and do they or their products go over into the naptha . I am sure they dont .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_nitrate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride

Other people have used crystal drain cleaner and had sucess .

 

[Lion]

Do those chemicals hurt you when ingesting the so called extracted mescaline?

 

[Meduzz]

The chemicals mentioned are polar so they don't go to the naphta phase. But who knows what other shit is in there. I think it might work but can't you get any pure NaOH? Just to be sure?

 

[druglessdouglas]

its aluminium, among other things. the combination produces hydrogen gas causing it to foam. dont use it as it looks like there are colorings also. look for NaOH in a hardwear/household store

 

[GOD]

The web link Rutger gave says that those are the ingredients of what you have = Sodium hydroxide , Aluminum , salt peter and salt . The only question is does salt peter react with anything and make any by products that go over into the naptha . I`m sure it doesnt or it wouldnt be used to preserve food.........

 

[druglessdouglas]

once you mix it with water it is no longer NaOH.

 

[Meduzz]

If you can't find any other NaOH, dissolve the white pellets in water and check pH to see if it's really the NaOH. If you can't measure pH put some on your skin. It won't burn imediately. If it feels a bit slimy, it's NaOH. Now rinse it.

 

[Rutger]

Even though the other components might not react they can give difficult emulsions and there for trouble with separation. Curious where the aluminum is for and what the blue stuff is. All salts in this mixture sodium -hydrochloride, -chloride and -nitrate have a white crystalline structure.

I would look a bit further for some pure NaOH and use this stuff when there are some pipes that need draining. Please tell us what the aluminum does, if possible...

 

[druglessdouglas]

the aluminium produces hydrogen gas on reaction with the OH ion. the hydrogen makes the solution foam, filling the drain with foaming caustic solution so the whole drain is cleaned, not just the bottom of the pipe. a lot of heat is also evolved, melting any grease present.it cant be easily removed

2Al(s) + 2 NaOH(aq) -> 2NaAlOH4(aq) + 3H2(g)

 

[user_1919]

Thank you for your replies. I will look for a different source of NaOH. Also GOD I am extracting DMT, not mescaline. Also at work I talked with a friend, and he said just do a simple test. Dilute your solution of NaOH, mix with Naptha, and then once seperated, dry the Naptha to see if anything was dissolved in the Naptha. The only problem with this is if the DMT reacts with any of those added products you could have other chemicals when dried. I think I know of a source for NaOH. I will look for it next week when I need it. Again, thanks for all your help.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[druglessdouglas]

you could try heating washing soda Na2CO3 strongly. you will get NaOH but you will have to use it fast as it will reabsorb CO2 from the air. sodium carbonate is easier to find

 

[GOD]

I have only used crystal drain cleaner , its called "Mellerrud Rohr Frei" . It contains NaOH with other things . It never formed a foam when i used it . In the " Show your kit" thread there is a picture of it and the things i used to extract the DMT . It always worked , and nobody ever got poisoned or complaine about the product .

If someone knows a product thats available in europe that contains only NaOH and water please tell me the brand name ? And where i can get it from as i cant find it ?

 

[druglessdouglas]

its extremely easy to get in the UK in solution or crystal form. DIY stores sell own brands. if you CANT get any, PM me and ill post you a 500g or kilo pack.

 

[GOD]

Thanks Drugless . I can get the liquid equivalent of the product that i mentioned here ......... but it still contains other chemicals . Thats what i`m trying to say . I want to know where i can get a product that definately only contains NaOH and water .

 

[druglessdouglas]

you can make it by heating sodium carbonate. use a cast iron pan and a high heat. or ask a pharmacist to order some. tell them you want to make your own soap. look into soap making so you have a cover story. its only NaOH and fat

 

[GOD]

Thanks again Drugless . I can get it here from chemists , but only in very small quantitys and only if they are feeling benevelent . To get enough for a decent extraction one would have to find at least 4 helpfull chemists .

I want the people who say they can get NaOH / water solution in usefull amounts to say what the brand name is and where they get it from . The liquid drain cleaner that one can buy in europe contains other chemicals to .