2C-I

[Goran.Hrsak]

Have 2C-I at home. 100mg in powder form. Can someone give me advices how much to take and what can I except? Cause 2C-C and 4-aco-DMT were disasters! Body load, low vision and slight euphoric state for short period of time. Some words told me that those RC's were diluted. So I have new kind in pure form.
ADVICES?

 

[JustinNed]

Not familiar at all with any of the 2c's they are a little expensive for me, I hear that it's dosage is about 5-15mg though and it can take a while to take effect, just in case you didn't have it too here's the Erowid 2c-i vault, http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/ let me know how it works out.

 

[st.bot.32]

I've taken around 12-15mg 4 times last year, and the effects varied wildly. The first two times were so warm and easygoing, I thought that 2CI was just a fun recreational visual drug, i wouldn't even call them trips. Then suddenly they became challenging experiences.. out of the blue actually

So it's unpredictable, set and setting is important if you are doing anything over 10mg I would say. For all my trips, it took 2 - 2 1/2 hours to kick in fully, and the plateau lasts another 3-4 hours, it drops off rapidly after that.

If you are an experienced psychonaut try around 10-15mg to start (i did 12 my first time). Upping the dosage even one mg with 2CI can make a dramatic difference.. (one user here says he tried 40mg once.. i can't imagine)

The thing about 2CI that makes me reluctant to do it again soon, is that it can make one extremely catatonic. On my really difficult trip I could hardly move at one point, the body load was so high.. crazy visuals too.. it actually turned out to be a beneficial trip in the end, some unexpected insights came while i was listening to music.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

If I could ask, where U got your 2C-I?
Cause my source first post me 2C-C. I was so f.....g excited! New thing! Finally after couple of dry years! But cold shower happens instead! I got 240mg of 2C-C and first time dosage was 40mg I think. Minimal lower limit of medium strange dose. Weird sentence? I were really careful with RC's cause were first timer. Who the hell knows what "can happen"??
Result-slight euphoric state, normal pupils, higher cardiovascular action, threshold like on Acid or MDA/MDMA but only to that. Next day and day after it my mind is drained! Contradictory to every net words bout 2C-C.
Next time dose were ultra high for 2C-C. 170-200mg. Euphoric state lasts 3 hours comparing it with 40min first time. Hellish bodyload! I need to take huge amounts of morphine, methadone, benzos and booze to keep my sanity in one piece! I could compare 200mg of 2C-C with REAL PSYCHOTIC EPISODE which term scientists and doctors prescribe to LSD-mescal-shrooms. From visuals? I got only confusing thoughts which can or can maybe be like visuals but U will receive them 30min after Acid or Shrooms with end after 15min. And thats it!! SHIT, really SHIT!!! Hearth and lungs want to explode, U are tight like sprain! Every minute 200m running cause pressure is to high! Is this epinephrine or phenethylamine??? :?: I ask this cause one time full syringe with 10cc of epinephrine flushed into bloodstream! NEVER DO THAT AT HOME! I ALMOST DIED! HOW I SURVIVED THAT? GODS KNOWS! BRAIN AND HEARTH ATTACK EVADED! UF!
Avoid 2C-C! Maybe I doesn't got 2C-C at first place? Who can tell. But brown crystal matter I got.

Now have powder. Hopefully real stuff and worth of use. Next, if I remember right 2C-I needs time to come up, thats why U need so much time to feel it right. And yes, have Xp in psys.

U haven't told how visual occur? Are they comparable with something like acid or shrooms(cacti)? Or unique kind? Please give me some words bout your actual experience.

THANX
Peace
Light
Love
Bless

 

[st.bot.32]

hey goran,

i got my 2CI off an rc site in my country early last year.. around the time i was missing acid so i started exploring other things

well how would i explain.. I found 2CI very visual, extremely clear and precise. At a lower dose mathematical visuals like low dose acid, swirling fractal patterns. The visuals changed as i took more intense doses. They're hard to explain , they just have their own character. Similar to acid, but different. More like seeing solid chunks of colors in objects just come alive, form faces, dance around.. paintings start mixing themselves up.. trees dancing.. people's faces changing, morphing.. seeing imaginary people in my peripheral vision.

2ci, even more than acid, takes time for the visuals to take hold. if you're walking around, you might not see a lot of visuals. if you sit down and relax, then you start to notice things more...

at a lower dose CEV for me were also just mathematical patterns. at a slightly higher dose they became closer to acid.. thinking of things and you would see the imagery appear, distort, while you fall into mental trips.. at one point i became a digital silicon caterpillar, it felt like all my senses had been rewired. music was awesome in this state. neat audio hallucinations when i was listening to the weather outside with my eyes closed

but also as i mentioned, at the higher dose when i was getting all those visuals, i was really physically catatonic. it was a bit intense actually, and i think part of the reason that trip was difficult was because i wasn't expecting so much of a body load.

i don't think you can go as deep with this psychedelic as you can with acid.. although i did get some useful insights out of my difficult trip (my other trips were hardly even trips). it is fun to try a few times. it just is what it is. at some point this spring i'll probably give the last of my 2CI a final shot..

makes me want to try 2ce and 2cb sometime as well. actually makes me really just want to give mescaline a fair try again.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

U speak bout 2Cs like joke! They are forbidden here! OK, 2CB is, but who knows maybe our courts are like USA once? ANALOGICAL DRUGS! Like various piperazines! If one is banded, then every other is also! So play with 2C-C, 4-aco-DMT and now order of 2C-I is like kissing Naja!(cobra)

I have bunch of XP from 5HT, anticolinergic, epinephrine agonists, oils and other alkaloids. Just look at my posts and time given to this forum!

Have U ever tried MDA? I loven't it!! BIG TIME! So wonder is maybe 2C-I like it in 22-30mg dose? Faces disappear from heads, bloody rain, no eyes, metro stops and opens doors to leave passengers on club party floor. And so on, and on. Weird but very distant Alica trip effects! No kaleidoscopic view, or "bubbling and stretching" like street becomes hallucinogenic bridge but U know it. Here U doubt that! But in same time knows how drug plays with your mind.

One thing more:
How much is dose of :
1.Alica
2.2C-B
3.2C-I
4.2C-E
5.500mg of mescaline
6.200mg of MDMA
7.150mg of MDA
8.150mg of piperazine(nevertheless which one)

 

[st.bot.32]

well, 2cb is banned in canada.. but the other 2c's seem to exist in some kind of weird grey market. there haven't really been any problems with them yet that have gotten press, hence there is no public awareness of them. so it is possible for rc sites to exist in canada for now.

piperazines, bzp are on the cards right now though, looks like they are about to get banned.

i havent tried mda or mdma yet, sadly it just hasn't worked out. so i can't compare..

So wonder is maybe 2C-I like it in 22-30mg dose?

I wonder. I have about 20mg left somewhere. Debating doing it all at once.. as long as i have a nice couch to lie down on somewhere. oof.

as far as RC's go, i have tried some kind of DOx or possibly bromo dfly once (those chemical-tasting blotters with the 5 hour comeup i had last year). it was heads and tails better than 2ci, in my opinion, as long as you have 20+ hours free to trip. the rc blotters were totally what you are talking about.. heads looking like they are detached from people, trees bursting/evaporating into fractal patterns, seeing through walls.. etc

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

U haven't tried MMDA, MDA, MDMA, TMA??? :wink:
I know that U took it but U doesn't know only when! If U were ecstasy lover for some period? Bunch of Mstuff were in it. I was E lover for one year. And first series(tested) of E tablets was MDA. So what U think bout E? Have U used MDMA then?

DOB, STP, and similar stuff are hard core shit. Think that 20++ hours is tooooo long for me. Activities and work. Maybe on summer holidays? Will see. But would like to use them really much if they produce visuals like mentioned in posts before and not like Alica.

 

[digdug]

Goran,

Maybe I'm out of line, but people like you only further the argument for restricting these things.

 

[Meduzz]

Goran,

Maybe I'm out of line, but people like you only further the argument for restricting these things.

Why?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I know why. :!: :wink: First is my English. :wink: If U doesn't read really focused and very closely words in sentences U can really easily become aware of just the opposite from what I sad. :wink:
Also I have 24 years. Under me is long psychoactive doing time. Can bet on 10 years. But those 10 years showed me more then normal "experimental drug user" could learn in 30. Believe me that I am only one guy in Zagreb with love-knowledge-affection-enthusiasm-crazy police resisting behavior-experiments-passing of knowledge to everyone who want to listen or need help-cooking and growing-understanding it in higher meaning-fighting for it's rights in this succumbed world(I bet in 90% of success that no other in Zagreb is like me, so persistent and stupid to place his name as alias) and maybe one of three in Croatia(4,5milion people) with such knowledge bout psychedelics! This isn't self-prizing, only showing what I am and if U want to hear me about OK, if no, no problem. Never have urge to force someones thinking to mine or like mine.
But what I want to say? YES. I am standing behind words posted before. Drugs can be real danger! Also psydelics and especially psys in acute act! People doesn't get it! Psy aren't only fun! Can be and it is in most of time but on every trip even if U aren't taking strong doses-extraordinary trips-exotic trips, voyages with death penalty or mind loosing could happen. Just as police bust! I have also ordered half of kilo shrooms. Once and second time package goes well! But third time 10 cops bust me on post office and I cool my ass in jail. GODS HELP ME AND I ONLY GET 2 YEARS OF CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE!! ! VERY TIGHT! AGES HELPED ME! ONLY 17 THEN.

I doesn't want insanity to anyone, just like police bust so always will give U warning before U order something or sell something if I have occasion. Is this bad and opposite to drug freedom? Or advice not to take too much? Or do U know what are U taking? Or something is sanity itching like DOB, STP, Dragonfly? Drugs can be fucked up, real shit if U aren't using them from right cause, to many or without reason! Get real! Get real man! I love U as person! But watch yourself! This is good and friendly advice.

PEACE
LIGHT
LOVE
BLESS

P.S.
I had 2C-I XP last friday. But after this posting it would be only loose.

 

[phatass]

You can sniff it but it burns like hell or you can parachute it, a normal dose of pure 2C-I is 25mg, so i suggest you breack your 100mg into 4 parts.. don't trip alone its a lot more fun with a friend, and expect LSD like halucinations, very colorfull, and not as introspective...

 

[st.bot.32]

if you try it goran, let us know how it goes!

25mg.. whew. don't know if i would ever go that high. last time was more than crazy enough for me.

phatass, have you tried inhaling it, and do you need a lower dose when you take 2CI that way? I tried inhaling a small amount once, not much happened..

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I have used 27mg last Friday. Can't say that something special happened! But very interesting effect occurred! After INGESTING powder I drink up (before and after) 4liter of beer. Beside that 20mg of alprazolam, 55mg of methadone, 5dcl of "Pelinkovac"(liquer made from Absinthium with 34% alcohol), 2 jix smoked, 30mg of metilphenldate(ritaline) and 3 shrooms(small ones, maybe 0,4g overall).

Effects starts to kick in really fast! No way bout 2 hours like net talking on wiki or erowid! After 15-25mins euphoria bumped me out of chair! I succeeded to put some cloths and go out. Final destination was Boogaloo club. Shit techno program/found that after). My pupils stretched to max! I can compare it with atropine drops and high doses of coke or similar phenyltilamine like 2c-I. Body high was on medium stage. Could say, manageable. But not so well. I start to howl and take deep breaths. Like too much MDMA. Next was ,after first hour, visual building. What is interesting on 2C-I!? Medium hallucinations doesn't exist! Only distant and very close ones if U are in moving! Of course in this dose! So if I look 5 meters down vision people faces blend and turned or structure shakes. Or if I look very close to something like my watch or mob weird dots appear! Red, brown spots everywhere! Everything looks like chicken pots diseased child faces!!
What bothers me is lack of energy! I am on party but music and atmosphere isn't right. I am too convulsive to dance! And music doesn't sounds right! But I love to look and observe people and their behaviors on alcohol, MDMA, coke, speed. Even consider them as somekind of fools! And so instead dancing I am looking people round me and observe them. Just the same chicks look back at me! Maybe this is psydelic thought but I think that my behavior isn't right for party!?
What is good? I do not have no problems with ego or concentration! NO PROBLEM AT ALL! Going to WC, but very hard to piss. Succeeded. But everything starts to look out of my "program". So I exit out and walks to home. 3hours long walk has been better then party X6 times. At home I looked TV and introspect my life. Relive some stress by jerking off. THATS GOOD! 2C-I is good for sex! No wood problems! Just opposite if U have stimuli from porn or woman!
Sleep well. Next day little bit ill and drained but thats normal after psydelic agonists! Third day also tired, fourth with lower concentration but after 1PM everything returned to usual way.

Story will continua. Next Friday or Saturday 40g-55mg of 2C-I will cook in me.
Also consider to take 20mg by needle! What U guys think? Is that to hard? Overkill?
Hear U.
Wizard aka Doctor Hannah(Goran)

 

[phatass]

20mg IV or IM? Also Normally when u sniff 2C-x products it kicks in in like 2 minutes with hard visuals that come immediately, dosage about the same 20 to 25mg for a start, see where that takes you...

 

[st.bot.32]

that's quite a combo!!

A lot of the effects you describe are similar to what i got. great for concentration (i actually found it great for music making). body load too much for physical activity like dancing. sex drive still very high.

be sure to try closing your eyes for a bit next time. it's quite the experience. that's when i started getting audio hallucinations, and time stop experiences..

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

IM injection will never again see my muscle!!!!!!
Muscle like ass, arm, leg, ties! Last time I shoot down 400mg of morphine into glutens. Glutens R or right ass. It was new years eve. 2 years ago. And after one week small ball round up in ass tissue. In part where needle was sticked. 2 week after that "ball" turned into football ball! Infection occurs! GUYS! THAT HURTS LOT! I couldn't seat or lie! Overkilled my kidneys with opiates and NSAIR. But football ball rounds up bigger and bigger. Also pain with it. So I visit my doctor. She sad that I have seriously infection. Got 4 kinds of antiB. And subscription for operation. Next day septic coma starts! i almost die! SHIT, BUT WHAT THE PAIN! I REMEMBER FROM ALL OF THAT COMATOSE STATE ONLY HUGE PAIN! LIKE COOKING MY ASS ON LIGHT FIRE! SO doctors cut of 20ccm of my rotten ass tissue and then everything was OK. Like tooth infection but X60! So IM injection doesn't counts on me any more! EVEN DOCTOR ONES!

2C-X aren't the same!!! Only two pieces are. Like 2c-b and 2c-i! Cause they are like levo and dextro amphetamine Iodine and bromine period schedule position. In that manner other 2C-X works. 2 of them are lightly same but one is harder in one thing and second in other. Look on net. Will explain next time if U like

 

[phatass]

thx for then info.. i was considering IM (got no more veins for IV.. at least no veins that i'm willing to do.. i don't do my neck or dick, and i often miss part of my shots in the foot) so i think i'll stick to swallowing or sniffing it...

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I don't like to talk bout this cause I am out of that scheme. But if U ask me vain shoot is 1000% more accurate and safer then muscle! Especially glutens! Or ass - common. Why? If U don' pierce deep enough substrate will end between skin/fat tissue and muscle! If U are lucky, cause U have 20% chance to get what I have, substrate will enter into small blood drains-veins and everything will work just fine. But if U are lucky enough!(20% of miss shoot).
Or U can shoot deep enough but also too deep! Into bone with similar effects like shallow!
Or U can shoot substance to low into glutens-ass near nerve center. This is hellish outcome!! Doctor told me that! He sad that I am so lucky that needle wasn't very low pierced into glutens! In other way leg movement and "perception" could disappeared from nerve damage!

So vain shoot is the best! Little bigger amounts of water like 3ccm, more clear as U can do it, piercing into blood stream directly, see blood in the syringe and thats 100% sure-positive factor that U are "IN", slowly push shit down the stream and if u fell any kind of negative effect or body nausea U can very easily stop and drop of from injection intake.

So enjoy. If U know what U are doing.

 

[mullis]

please just take it orally, or sniff/nasal spay if you must! you only need about 15mg for a good trip, i really don't get the fasination with shootin up