Questions on risks of heart injury and choking when high

[lol*fan]

Some questions from someone relatively new to weed:

How far does the effect of weed go? I mean, what happens with higher and higher doses? So far I've experienced open and closed eyes visuals, being that it's insanely easy to think of something and see it vividly in front of me. Extreme relaxation of the body. Continuous full body orgasms while viewing porn and after. Racing heart. Being extremely 'in the moment'. That combined with high body relaxation making me fear I forget to take my next breath.

My most important question is: can one injure the heart while on weed? The combination of marihuana and porn (or sex in general I guess) seems a very powerful one, but yesterday I felt like my heart was beating so fucking fast I was afraid it would suddenly break down or something!

And secondly: my body can become so ultimately relaxed that I just keep breathing out and out and out... and then at some point a sudden convulsion of a hand, arm or foot reminds me to breathe in again. While breathing in I feel like coming back to life or something. I've feared quite a few times that I would just choke because I wouldn't remember to breathe in again, and that there would be a point after I would not have any strength left in my body to breathe in anymore. Is this something I should consider seriously or is it part of the 'trip' and should I just let go...?

Your answers will be greatly appreciated!

 

[Guest]

i have had many times sex with weed, and my heart never failed. once, i smoked at a festival about 20 joints in a day, snorted half a gram of cocaine,drank 2 liters od beer, took a blotter of acid, and smoked some heroin (chasing the dragon...about 20cm). then, after dancing like crazy, i met an old girlfriend and i had sex with her, don't know for how long, but more than an hour. from time to time, i would stop and snort some more cocain from her body, so you probably are safe smoking a couple of joints and masturbating.
peace!

 

[st.bot.32]

The LD50 for cannabis is ridiculously high, on the order of smoking something like what, 800 joints in a session? The smoke would do you in first..

Sounds like you are having a marvelous time with cannabis! I really only moved away from smoking a bit socially, into exploring it as you are about a year ago.

Cannabis really amplifies the sensations in your body. It also really amplifies whatever you are consciously thinking about. If you are focusing on one particular thing it can literally consume your whole being. I've totally had panic attacks feeling my heart race and feeling like I wasn't breathing even though I was, and when you start focusing on it you really just make it even worse.

If you can change your focus away from that "panic centre" in your body onto something external or peaceful or something that will engulf your attention, it will usually relax you a lot I find. Movies might not work when you are that high, they might just confuse you :D

If you want to know how far cannabis can actually go, check out the poems of the hashish, about people who basically used hash to receive visions in the 19th century. Of course, it's probably impossible to do that with just cannabis, it is too hard on the body. I've had pretty crazy visuals and outright synesthesia myself, but at the point where it was getting intense, it was quite hard on the body, and I was on my ass basically.

That being said, I wouldn't dare give you medical advice, be responsible with your body! I would think it wise to be extra careful if I had a high heartrate or blood pressure problem..

 

[st.bot.32]

i have had many times sex with weed, and my heart never failed. once, i smoked at a festival about 20 joints in a day, snorted half a gram of cocaine,drank 2 liters od beer, took a blotter of acid, and smoked some heroin (chasing the dragon...about 20cm). then, after dancing like crazy, i met an old girlfriend and i had sex with her, don't know for how long, but more than an hour. from time to time, i would stop and snort some more cocain from her body, so you probably are safe smoking a couple of joints and masturbating.
peace!

Holy shit, that sounds like the most decadent party of all time!

 

[Psychoid]

Movies might not work when you are that high, they might just confuse you :D

Watching movies when stoned is very interesting in my opinion. I see everything in a different way. I find most horror movies funny when I'm high. My best experience was watching Lord of the Ring when high. The whole movie felt very special. Assuming Gandalf is high is very funny, as he really looks stoned. And he does smoke quite often from a pipe in the movie :lol:

 

[Brugmansia]

Weed doesn't interfene with the receptors that are responsible for breath and heart frequence. It stimulates mainly the release of anandamide.

I have got some doubts about Dutch weeds lately, it seems to be excessively strong for just plant material. It for sure isn't your expanded consciousness alone that makes you more aware of your heart beats and automatic breath system.

Your blood vessels are expanded too, remember that.

The breaths I have to take after an orgasm and the rythym of my heart are sometimes not completelty 'automatic'. Like I have to do them myself. :\

 

[tryptonaut]

I just recalled my worst cannabis paranoia in another thread - it was the constant loss of all short time memory for the last few seconds up to one minute. Every time I realized I remembered nothing about the last couple seconds I got more scared of what I had been doing (or not doing). I think fear of not breathing anymore was amongst the whole "package" as well.
Do you know the feeling when you fall asleep around people (like in a classroom) and you wake up suddenly, panic about where you are, then worrying if anybody saw you, or if you snored? That's exactly it, only continuosly.