NaOH

[Guest]

Hi guys, just a quick question :

I have one liter of 30% concentrated NaOH, how many milligrams does this makes ?

Thanks !

 

[GOD]

Why do you want to know ? Explain please and maybe i can help .

 

[GOD]

Judging by the thread you posted in i`d say it doesnt matter . But if you still have questions please ask .

 

[Guest]

For the DMT extraction, I'd need to use 50 gr of NaOH into 0.5 liter of water.

What I have is a bottle containing 1 liter of sodium hydroxyde at 30.5%.

I'd like to know what this concentration stands for, so I can choose the right quantity (+ dilluate it even more if needed)

Thanks for your quick help GOD ;)

 

[GOD]

50 gr in .5 liter = 100 g in 1 liter . What you have is 305 g in one liter . BUT i dont think your recipe sounds right . To do A/B extractions you need saturated solutions = as much NaOH as you can disolve in water . Or are you trying a B/A extraction or just a B naptha extraction . I dont see why a recepie should call for that concentration ??? Where can i look at the recipe ?

 

[Guest]

DMT Extraction :
1) Put Mimosa powder into a 2 liters, stainless steel bowl.
2) Put 50 gr of NaOH into 0.5 liter of tap water.
3) Stir for a few minutes, then set aside for 2 1/2 hours
4) Stir again
5) Add 100 ml of naptha
6) Stir for 20 to 30 minutes
7) Put the solvent into a new, flat plate (no dark stuff or bubbly emulsion which may have formed in the solvent (if so wait for one hour) must go in).
8) Use a fan to evaporate the clear naphta
9) Recolt the DMT
10) Go to step 5 again

This is the lazy man tek, you can google it and find it easily.

Are you sure that I only have 300 gr of NaOH into this liter ?

That's what I understood :


1 liter = 1'000 cm3

It's 30.5% concentrated -> 69.5% of water - 30.5% of NaOH

-> 305 cm3 of NaOH

NaOH weights 2.1 gr per cm3, so 640.5 gr of NaOH

Am I wrong ? I don't have much previous experience, so I may be missing something completely.

 

[Forkbender]

It is probably vol-& and not mass-%, so Tiax' calculation sounds right to me.

GOD: 1 liter of a mixture is rarely 1 kg.

 

[GOD]

I know that . Sodium hydroxide doesnt weigh what water does volume for volume . I dont know what it weighs , do you ?

In end effect it will have to be a judgement , as near as possible = pretend it does weigh the same as water and carry on ..........


Tiax , the nearest that you can come is to add 2 liters of water to your liter and then measure off half a liter . The difference wont make much of a difference .

 

[Guest]

In end effect it will have to be a judgement , as near as possible = pretend it does weigh the same as water and carry on ..........

As I've written, 1 cm3 of NaOH weight 2.1 gr, whereas 1 cm3 of water weight (as you all know of course) 1gr.

 

[GOD]

As i posted your answer wasnt there .

How are you going to do it then .

And it wont make much difference either way .

 

[GOD]

OK back to buisness . I just asked the oracle and it told me to go the other way round . So....

When i just said it wont make any differebnce i was being an arsehole . Of cource it would make a difference , a very big one .

When you asked about miligrams i was scratching my head because i cant see any reason to know that . Any method of extracting DMT that tells a person to weigh a substance that only registered , lisenced chemists , or chemical handlers , or laboratorys can get and arent allowed to sell or give away is stupid . Its also stupid because they shouldnt be talking confusing crap about weights or volumes . They should be talking about PH . YYopu need a PH of 13 . You need a good PH meter to measure that .....or you just take your chemical ( drain cleaner or pure NAOH if you can get it ) and make a saturated solution = you put as much as you can in water untill it doesnt disolve any more = you have a PH of 13 - 13.2 from my experience . It depends , at least , on the temperature of the water . If you heat it up on a stove you might get it up to 13.7 . I never got it any higher even if i boiled the solution = VERY dangerous = poison gass . You need PH 13 to extract the DMT and to combat the fat because mimosa hostilis has masses of fat in it . Thats why its said to be better to do a B extraction than an A/B extraction . If you do the A/B extraction it takes MASSES of naptha to wash the fat off before you base the rest .

So make a saturated solution , or if you have a reliable PH meter measure the PH of your solution and if its not PH 13 or a litle under or over . dont use it . If its under it wont work properly . If its to high the NAOH destroys to much DMT .

I hope trhatcleared things up and helped you . I`m sorry i was an arsehole . I was totaly pissed because i`ve had a bad few days here lately .

If you have any questions i can answer them .

 

[Guest]

Oh well, the extraction is done now, right now I'm letting the naphta evaporate, we'll see if I get some crystals !

Thanks for your help dude ;)

 

[GOD]

I`d be pleased to hear what happens . Hopefully you have good neighbours as evaporating the naptha STINKS . Did you use the solution you had pure ? , or ?

 

[Rymmen]

What I did was use 0.1 liter of my solution, then add 0.4 liter of tap water.

I harvested the biggest crystals, they only weight 70 mg.

With the crystals I still need to scrap I think I'll get around 200 mg, which is far from the 1 gr I hoped for, so I guess I'll have to correct my methodology.

But hey, it's already enough for like 4-5 trips, and it's DMT !

:D

 

[Guest]

Woopsy, I used Rymmen account by mistake (he's staying at my place right now) 😳

 

[GOD]

You said what you have is a concentrated solution , so i`d guess that it is probably better to use it clean / as it is . It cant be to strong because a saturated solution is about PH 13 . So it is either right or not strong enough . I`d guess its just right .
Is it a pure solution or a drain cleaner ? = from what source did it come ? Maybe you can find out the PH there ? If it comes from a school / uni lab they will have good PH meters lying around .

 

[Guest]

It's selled as a cleaning product, so I doubt it's pure stuff.

I guess I'll buy some PH paper for my next extraction...

 

[GOD]

All the drain cleaner i`ve ever seen wasnt a pure product . It had either 2 or 3 other chemicals in it . But i dont think that that mattersr .

I have never seen PH/litmus paper that goes up to PH 13 . What i`ve seen only goes up to PH 10 .

So either use it pure or get some of the same product as a granulat and see if you can disolve some in your solution = if you can it isnt saturated and adding as much granulate as will disolve will bring it up to PH 13 .

 

[Guest]

It is pure, I read the composition which only states "Sodium Hydroxyde".

Oh well, I'll try your advice next time and check if I get a higher yield, thanks man !