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I just starting watching a documentary called "Are We Real" (I'm about 5 minutes in and have it paused) and discussing with my friend some ideas. I was thinking about how we can compare our existence to that of a seed. The seed sprouts and experiences existence. It sees the world, it interacts with space in the world. It takes up space in the world. It changes the world just by being within its world, its reality. So when you think of the universe, or our reality, as a platform with objects able to be manipulated by those who/that can experience manipulating things, you see that the universe's purpose CAN BE, to be manipulated, to change for each generation of being. So that each generation can experience something new.
What purpose does it have exactly? DOES the universe have a purpose at all. IF the universe does have a purpose, was it designed for us. Was it designed to be experienced by vessels capable of experience? Can it be... That, being experienced IS the true nature of the universe? Is it in existence to BE experienced, OR does the Universe have a purpose not related to the existence of beings whatsoever?!
How the hell was this universe created? When you think about it, (Lets stick to trees) nothing that we know of comes into existence out of nothing. Also, nothing in existence ever lasts forever, but it also never completely dissipates. The death of a tree does create the birth of soil, and the birth of soil does aid in the creation of the birth of a tree. I ask myself, how on earth could anything be created out of nothing? Is it possible for there to be nothing, when the beginning and end are always connected? Perhaps. Is the beginning and end of the universe connected. Of course its connected, connected by time in between. Now I'm comparing a ecological cycle to a philosophical question and there may or may not be any comparability. As my friend always says, you cant compare concrete to concepts.
(if they are philosophical in nature)
If this is true, then the universe was created, to be destroyed, to create universe. (Or something completely different than universe) The universe also stands a chance of being created, to be experienced by that which it creates. Just as a seed is created to experience that which the tree that created the seed has created within the universe.
If this is all true, then the human beings purpose IS to create and experience. We are all part of the universe. It is a never ending cycle of creation and experience.
Another question to be answered is, can that which creates to experience, experience its own non-existence? Human beings have no recollection of their own personal creation, generally. They cannot have recollection of experiencing non-existence, unless non-existence means nothingness. Can you recollect nothing? I guess you could. From the moment your mind emerges, can it recall nothing? Surely it can. Its easy to remember nothing when thinking of nothing, correct? So is nothing, merely the middle of something, and something?
Which brings me back to my loop theory. There must be something, in order for nothing to be, and there must be nothing, for something to come from. Is it possible that nothing and something merged to create the universe we live in? IF so, what is that something. Is that something, all of the building blocks of creation? Proteins and atoms and things like that? Whereas the nothing, is lack of space, lack of matter. If the something is always creating new something to experience the something its marriage with nothing has created, then SOMETHING has been created by the nothing, and NOTHING, has been created by the something. Perhaps at the same exact time. To experience themselves.
The something could have been very very simplistic in nature. What have I said above? We all create things in order for new things to experience and create. So out of something, nothingness was born. But there could not have always been something, so out of nothingness, something was born.
Lets see here... Just by the sun existing, there is lack there of the same exact sun somewhere else. There cannot be the same exact sun, there are only other suns. Therefor, that sun created the lack of the same sun. That lack of the same sun, had to have created the sun that that lacking of the same sun could not be.
I'm basically just rambling off thoughts. I'd like to hear yours.
This was nothing that I put any research into or anything. Its funny really.
Basically wondering if anyone has counter arguments, if this makes sense to anyone else, if this theory has already been stated, and if I should create a name.
(Ok, look, I realize I'm one of billions of people, and thats just in this century alone, so I'm sure this has been thought up before. I'm reaching for the stars here. I know its a very basic theory with nothing to back it. But it was very fun thinking it up)
-JV
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get some sleep so that I can create myself awake in the morning. :wink:
What purpose does it have exactly? DOES the universe have a purpose at all. IF the universe does have a purpose, was it designed for us. Was it designed to be experienced by vessels capable of experience? Can it be... That, being experienced IS the true nature of the universe? Is it in existence to BE experienced, OR does the Universe have a purpose not related to the existence of beings whatsoever?!
How the hell was this universe created? When you think about it, (Lets stick to trees) nothing that we know of comes into existence out of nothing. Also, nothing in existence ever lasts forever, but it also never completely dissipates. The death of a tree does create the birth of soil, and the birth of soil does aid in the creation of the birth of a tree. I ask myself, how on earth could anything be created out of nothing? Is it possible for there to be nothing, when the beginning and end are always connected? Perhaps. Is the beginning and end of the universe connected. Of course its connected, connected by time in between. Now I'm comparing a ecological cycle to a philosophical question and there may or may not be any comparability. As my friend always says, you cant compare concrete to concepts.
(if they are philosophical in nature)
If this is true, then the universe was created, to be destroyed, to create universe. (Or something completely different than universe) The universe also stands a chance of being created, to be experienced by that which it creates. Just as a seed is created to experience that which the tree that created the seed has created within the universe.
If this is all true, then the human beings purpose IS to create and experience. We are all part of the universe. It is a never ending cycle of creation and experience.
Another question to be answered is, can that which creates to experience, experience its own non-existence? Human beings have no recollection of their own personal creation, generally. They cannot have recollection of experiencing non-existence, unless non-existence means nothingness. Can you recollect nothing? I guess you could. From the moment your mind emerges, can it recall nothing? Surely it can. Its easy to remember nothing when thinking of nothing, correct? So is nothing, merely the middle of something, and something?
Which brings me back to my loop theory. There must be something, in order for nothing to be, and there must be nothing, for something to come from. Is it possible that nothing and something merged to create the universe we live in? IF so, what is that something. Is that something, all of the building blocks of creation? Proteins and atoms and things like that? Whereas the nothing, is lack of space, lack of matter. If the something is always creating new something to experience the something its marriage with nothing has created, then SOMETHING has been created by the nothing, and NOTHING, has been created by the something. Perhaps at the same exact time. To experience themselves.
The something could have been very very simplistic in nature. What have I said above? We all create things in order for new things to experience and create. So out of something, nothingness was born. But there could not have always been something, so out of nothingness, something was born.
Lets see here... Just by the sun existing, there is lack there of the same exact sun somewhere else. There cannot be the same exact sun, there are only other suns. Therefor, that sun created the lack of the same sun. That lack of the same sun, had to have created the sun that that lacking of the same sun could not be.
I'm basically just rambling off thoughts. I'd like to hear yours.
This was nothing that I put any research into or anything. Its funny really.
Basically wondering if anyone has counter arguments, if this makes sense to anyone else, if this theory has already been stated, and if I should create a name.
(Ok, look, I realize I'm one of billions of people, and thats just in this century alone, so I'm sure this has been thought up before. I'm reaching for the stars here. I know its a very basic theory with nothing to back it. But it was very fun thinking it up) -JV
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get some sleep so that I can create myself awake in the morning. :wink:
