The Church of Satan

[magickmumu]

 

[psm]

Satanists are pro-christian. They encourage the catholics to keep on believing.
They actually support the idea, that the bible is right and simply oppose it.
And even support the idea of the made up "evil" hell...
*sigh*

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Satanists are pro-christian. They encourage the catholics to keep on believing.
They actually support the idea, that the bible is right and simply oppose it.
And even support the idea of the made up "evil" hell...
*sigh*

Not according to the video.
Or this one:

Some of the things he says sound pretty sane and psychedelic to me.

 

[magickmumu]

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=S5v9A6q5y ... re=related

 

[restin]

I once read the 9 satements of the satanic bible

[quote:2v2ib3yw]1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,

 

[psm]

Satanists are pro-christian. They encourage the catholics to keep on believing.
They actually support the idea, that the bible is right and simply oppose it.
And even support the idea of the made up "evil" hell...
*sigh*

Not according to the video.
Or this one:

Some of the things he says sound pretty sane and psychedelic to me.

Sure, some are not at all catholic. Some are clearly atheistic, angostic, gnostic or something else.

But they were not the ones portrayed
Edit (after watching the movie to the end):
It does not contradict my statement, that they support christian church - they might not do it intentionally, but existence of a satanic church makes the weak-minded accessibly for christian rants
(which is what I meant originally)

The general idea of the "smart" satanists is not that stupid at all. and in some sense Crowley did just the same thing and most of us fall into the same bracket of ideals.

As a pope of a discordian chruch, I would never be so stupid and believe in something silly as a devil, my goddess Eris would not like it at all...
But we come close to the idea anyway, but then again...

 

[Nomada]

restin, did these nine satements really come with exclamatory signs?

 

[restin]

yeah

I originally read them in German, there they are with none. But the site I copiet them from is original, with a pentagram

psm: As I see satanism, it is less a religion than a philosophy. These rituals are just stupid (for me).

if you are interested in the philosophy

http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/docu ... ?aid=72662

The reporter is a pussy, the reportage not very serious but the guy interviewed is quite intelligent and interesting. Enjoy if you have the time.

The whole is based on the

Sheep - Goat model.

 

[Nomada]

what is the difference between religion and philosophy?

 

[restin]

religion is the heavenly realm and philosophy the earthly (my definition)

 

[Nomada]

That is very interesting. How did you come to that conclusion?

my own is: my religion is philosophy.

ps: I love pentagrams, when I grow up I will have a big collection of them

 

[restin]

I thought very much about God.

I ended up being agnostic.

Do you know why?

Because I saw God and Humans as two systems that are not touching each other. The only connection is death.

As we humans are in our system, we can't say of God exists.

Simple as that.

But I can say if christian phylosoophy is good or bad. I can judge human behaviour reflecting to my own ethics. That's why I call it a philosophy. For me, philosophy includes also ethics by the way.

I like your definition, too, but it is just not mine :wink:

 

[GOD]

There was a program on TV about it yesterday . They said its an american church set up on the 6th of the 6th 1966 and that they dont believe in or worship satan . Its all ment symbolicly . That people should be free and do what they want .

A religeon has a god . A philosophy doesnt....... allthough a religeon is a philosophy........

 

[gammagoblin]

I thought very much about God.

I ended up being agnostic.

Do you know why?

Because I saw God and Humans as two systems that are not touching each other. The only connection is death.

As we humans are in our system, we can't say of God exists.

Simple as that.

But I can say if christian phylosoophy is good or bad. I can judge human behaviour reflecting to my own ethics. That's why I call it a philosophy. For me, philosophy includes also ethics by the way.

I like your definition, too, but it is just not mine :wink:

I don't know if I bother you or anyone else if I write my philosophy here, but fuck it here it is :

Everything is God, humans as well, inevitably because we are part of the giant cosmos, we just kind of forgot that and that's why I think there is no connection (where you were talking about). But in the end we're all just part of this massive cloud of energy called the universe, god, whatever.
Oh yeah, and I don't think we should take our human form too seriously, I think we should just take it as a treat so that we can experience the wonders the universe hold for us (so God can see the wonder's of his own body).

 

[restin]

gammagoblin: Is the cosmos conscious?

 

[gammagoblin]

gammagoblin: Is the cosmos conscious?

good question, haven't thought about that yet, but I would say it is. Terence McKenna spoke about a 'gaian mind' or something, right? Maybe that's the conscious cosmos And things like the collective unconscious, if exists, could be it's voice I guess. But these are just thoughts don't know what to believe on this subject yet.

 

[restin]

very interesting. Well, we will see latest when we are dead, won't we :wink:

 

[GOD]

Is your whole body conscious of itself or just a part of it ? We , part of the universe are conscious , doesnt that mean the universe is conscious of itself ?

 

[Meduzz]

Consciousnes consists of consciousnes, like the bacteria in our bowels, our cells, your foot, contribute to our consciousnes, we contribute to the consciousnes of our cities, and so on....

 

[gammagoblin]

Is your whole body conscious of itself or just a part of it ? We , part of the universe are conscious , doesnt that mean the universe is conscious of itself ?

Nice one, and also, who say's that if the cosmos is conscious, that we would be able to understand that kind of consciousness, or even grasp a glimpse of it, maybe it's all too complicated for our little monkeybrain's .

But exactly, only one way to truly find out, a shame it's so definitive