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Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

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Hello psychonauts!

So one of the main questions we all have is whether the realms we encounter in our psychedelic journeys are real dimensions or just products of our mind and the actions of the substance.

In order to test this, on the 9th of august, people from all around the world are gonna smoke (or ingest) dmt at the same time, and then later we are gonna compare the trip reports, and make a few other checks to see if we can somehow have a clue whether it is a true world or not.

you can read more about it and the ´tests´ we are going to make, and sign up for the event at the Synchronized Hyperspace Event Website

The more people the better
 
All worlds are true :wink:
 
I already met a friend in a mushrooms + peganum harmala + n2o trip. He was tripping 2 km away from me with some other friends, before we were gonna trip we already said to each other to see if it's possible to meet someone in a trip. I inhaled n2o and suddenly I saw him before me, dancing with the visuals. I thought maybe it was just a product of my imagination, but the next day I spoke to him and he saw me in exactly the same way, in about the same time (...well you know how difficult these things are in trips).

Btw. That same trip I saw a little girl laying on my bed, and the friend I was tripping with also saw her...
 
Sounds like fun . Tell us what happens , and what the web site makes out of its results . As always i`m sceptical ..........but open to being shown to be wrong with rational evidence .
 
Why is this reality any different than the N,N-DMT realm? Different neurotransmitter, different realm. Take it at face value. Just because these realms are different and don't follow to same laws as earth, doesn't mean its not real. Even if you don't meet anyone on this experience in this realm, doesn't prove that it is 'not real'. Please tell me why you think it is not real? When you smoke N,N-DMT, and you are observing that is happening, does it look real? Feel real? To me, this present world is as fake or real as any other realm. As I said, different neurotrasmitter, different world. I am interesting in the results still, please post.

PEACE & LOVE
 
how are you going to organize all the data? things like that need to be settled before hand. Maybe you can make formularies.
 
strangely enough i was talking with my friend Steve about exactly this yesterday. we are both of the opinion that the "place you go" while tripping is always the same place and somehow the same time also- that the hundreds of trips we have experienced were all in fact the same trip and somehow also the same time, or outside time. we have tripped together for 20 years and have had totaly synchronous experiences on to many trips to remember. we have even had the same dream on the same night several times we know of. there have been times when we have not seen each other for weeks only to discover we have still managed to have similar experiences during that time.

the open conclusion we came to yesterday (while taking far too much speed) was tripping somehow takes you outside linear time on some level, or allowed access to the 2nd dimension in time, the dimension responsible for synchronicity and quantum entanglement.

although unlikely to be true it is a nice idea.
i look forward to hearing the results of the experiment
 
I`m not saying that things like what some of you are talking about dont exist , or that they are not part of "reality" . I`m saying lets live here first . Live with the laws of reality that aply here . And then very carefully speculate and make rational theorys about the things we experience as other relitys on trips and in dreams . Otherwise we would have a massive chance of totaly looseing the point and end up living in a terrenceesque fantasy world where nothing is real , nothing objective and we cant trust anything .

I have experiences like that . Especialy when dreaming where it all seems to be part of the same over dream .
 
GOD a dit:
I`m not saying that things like what some of you are talking about dont exist , or that they are not part of "reality" . I`m saying lets live here first . Live with the laws of reality that aply here . And then very carefully speculate and make rational theorys about the things we experience as other relitys on trips and in dreams . Otherwise we would have a massive chance of totaly looseing the point and end up living in a terrenceesque fantasy world where nothing is real , nothing objective and we cant trust anything .

I have experiences like that . Especialy when dreaming where it all seems to be part of the same over dream .



yeah sure, what is important is to bring psychedelic teachings into our normal world, using the insights productively and trying to become better people, and not uselessly speculating and wasting time on too much fantasies.

this event is not against this in any way.. Its just an interesting experiment.. SWIM smokes dmt once in a while, and was planning on doing it soon anyways, so why not doing in this date and possibly having very interesting results. If not, it will be amazing anyways as all dmt trips, so... :)
 
Here, I will tell you what happens on *most* hallucinogenic drugs.
Your brain is a natural filter to everything happening in the world, but with the introduction of a physcoactive chemical, the filtering no longer works correctly, and you brain tries to adjust to what it should and should not filter out on the new phsychoactive chemical. Example: Serotonin tends to want to filter out most "white noise" and visual "noise" from our environment. New chemicals in the brain, i.e. DMT or LSD change this filter, letting in, at peak trip, almost all information at once.
This is the skeptical part:
When everything is taken in at once, all information, is it possible to READ that information being taken in? Is it possible to sense someone elses thought through the air? Through white noise?
This is my thoughts.
Physchoactive compounds break or change the filtering of information in the brain, allowing it possible to "read" all other neurological activity. Every action has a reaction, including your thoughts, the things is: is it possible to read those reactions...?
 
IJesusChrist a dit:
Here, I will tell you what happens on *most* hallucinogenic drugs.
Your brain is a natural filter to everything happening in the world, but with the introduction of a physcoactive chemical, the filtering no longer works correctly, and you brain tries to adjust to what it should and should not filter out on the new phsychoactive chemical. Example: Serotonin tends to want to filter out most "white noise" and visual "noise" from our environment. New chemicals in the brain, i.e. DMT or LSD change this filter, letting in, at peak trip, almost all information at once.
This is the skeptical part:
When everything is taken in at once, all information, is it possible to READ that information being taken in? Is it possible to sense someone elses thought through the air? Through white noise?
This is my thoughts.
Physchoactive compounds break or change the filtering of information in the brain, allowing it possible to "read" all other neurological activity. Every action has a reaction, including your thoughts, the things is: is it possible to read those reactions...?


Of course is it possible to read the reactions. The only thing is that you got to have the skill for doing it. In other words the focus of your awareness must become immense in order to filter the information out of the stream(s) of information. But that's not all to it: At first you have to focus on a specific sense and then filter the corresponding information out of the big stream of information that the brain processes all the time.


But maybe there's another way of doing it... you probably could "let go" and then focus on the intention of achieving it and then maybe your brain does the job for you.....sounds easy, but who said it was very difficult?
 
There has been a "take DMT all at once" event like this before. I didn't participate (neither had the smokeable dmt nor the time to do so) but I never heard about it again. Any major synergies? I guess not or it would have been posted here, I guess!

Well, if there's another "let's smoke dmt" event in the future. Then LET FUCKING HAVE PEOPLE HAVE SMOKEABLE DMT!
I know how to theoretically make smokeable dmt out of mhrb, but that doesn't make me owner of smokeable dmt. And there's people out there who don't even know what dmt is. How about distributing dmt more evenly so these "events" can become more popular?
 
tryptonaut a dit:
There has been a "take DMT all at once" event like this before. I didn't participate (neither had the smokeable dmt nor the time to do so) but I never heard about it again. Any major synergies? I guess not or it would have been posted here, I guess!

Well, if there's another "let's smoke dmt" event in the future. Then LET FUCKING HAVE PEOPLE HAVE SMOKEABLE DMT!
I know how to theoretically make smokeable dmt out of mhrb, but that doesn't make me owner of smokeable dmt. And there's people out there who don't even know what dmt is. How about distributing dmt more evenly so these "events" can become more popular?

That's what I'm trying to do with phalaris but info is very scarce and sometimes conflicting.
 
tryptonaut a dit:
How about distributing dmt more evenly so these "events" can become more popular?

well, freebase dmt is illegal in most (all?) places, so ppl are not gonna just give it out to strangers..

but you can be sure that a lot (most?) ppl who do extract or synthesize dmt will give it away to people they know that are interested.. you can see how dmt is rarely sold, because people in general see that its not supposed to be sold

so if one is interested enough, the thing to do is to try to move near the proper circles, meet the right kind of ppl, or extract himself

its not supposed to be a mass-distributed product anyways, at least imo..


as for the event.. well, I have never heard of synchronized events like this in a world wide scale.. and even if there was, it still doesnt hurt anybody, does it? as I said, I dont expect Reuters to show on the news by sunday that hyperspace and dmt induced non-local communication was proven, but at least its nice to ´lift off´ knowing you are doing it with other people from all over, with good intentions.

SWIM anyways was going to smoke it soon, so why not do it together with others? even if nothing specific comes out, its an interesting thing to see later on how different the trip reports are from ppl around the world that did the same substance at the same time
 
When I take high dose psychedelic I act as if I am entering another space/time dimension or other world. A realm where synchronism is certainly higher.
I don't know the truth about this realm or if it's real (whatever that means). And I don't care, I love the mystery.
I don't think mass DMT taking and talking about it over the internet will reveal us thruth.
To my mind it is much better to actually trip together. For me the truth is in the moment.
When you take ayahuasca with other people at a ceremony, you will also find synchronism going on. Tripping with friends and other people in real life is more important to me then internet trip reports.
Maybe I am old fashion. Maybe I am horribly wrong. I honestly can't say.
But this is how I feel about it.

I wish you good luck with the experiment. I hope it will deliver some answers.
 
^^ I 100% agree. I felt this 'connectness' on my first 5 gram experience. Me and my friend were 'one', literally. It has broughten us much closer as friends also.

For me the truth is in the moment.

YES!!

PEACE & LOVE
 
endlessness a dit:
tryptonaut a dit:
How about distributing dmt more evenly so these "events" can become more popular?

well, freebase dmt is illegal in most (all?) places, so ppl are not gonna just give it out to strangers..

I forgot to put a ;) after my post, I guess. Of course I didn't mean people should go out and give dmt to strangers :)
I was only ironically expressing my frustration about myself not having been able to obtain some dmt. However no need to rush things. I believe it finds me when the time is right!
 
magickmumu a dit:
When I take high dose psychedelic I act as if I am entering another space/time dimension or other world. A realm where synchronism is certainly higher.
I don't know the truth about this realm or if it's real (whatever that means). And I don't care, I love the mystery.
I don't think mass DMT taking and talking about it over the internet will reveal us thruth.
To my mind it is much better to actually trip together. For me the truth is in the moment.
When you take ayahuasca with other people at a ceremony, you will also find synchronism going on. Tripping with friends and other people in real life is more important to me then internet trip reports.
Maybe I am old fashion. Maybe I am horribly wrong. I honestly can't say.
But this is how I feel about it.

I wish you good luck with the experiment. I hope it will deliver some answers.

sure, dont worry I think most agree with you

I just had another ritual with an amazon shaman here in Brazil this saturday, and definitely nothing can substitute this kind of thing, or tripping with friends or so on...

its not a choice of one or the other.. SWIM is a psychonaut at heart and wants to try all these different things, both making ´experiments´ of all kinds but also making normal rituals and experiences :)
 
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