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people can oppress you in a myriad of ways. often they may not even be aware they are doing it!! And this is the case in many families, and a reason that this can send some people into deep distresses which then get labeled 'mental illness' by the culture.
In order to KNOW when you are being abused, even subtly, you have to dive into yourself and what is going on. Or else their abuse gets internalized and you start thinking about yourself what they do or what you think they do
 

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DAYDREAMING

if we are talking about 'understanding dreams', what about daydreaming? This is something I am thinking about lately. I am aware how when in nature if you allow yourself to daydream you feel really deeply, ecstatically in fact.

I just had a look at the etymology of that term, cause I want to know roots of the terms I use, and found
daydream 1680s (n.), from day + dream. As a verb, attested from 1820. Related: Daydreamer; daydreaming. [source]
As you can see, it is a fairly 'new' term and not much is said about it, and it is also noteworthy that this term comes about in the beginnings of the so-called Enlightenment or 'Age of Reason', and this is where real pressure is imposed on children and people to fit into a mechanistic interpretation of reality where 'attentiveness' to facts, and rational modes of being would be very much pushed by the authorities.

I remember in school often being told off about daydreaming, and threats from the teacher to 'PAY ATTENTION!' and I see this as abuse which then becomes internalized into our adult life.

I have been witness to people being made to feel they have been damaged by psychedelics becase they have become more daydreamy! So that is accusation of brain damage, and/or 'mental illness'---so yet again is this oppressive insistence to NOT daydream and be efficient, productive, and attentive.

I found this article earlier today:

Why Daydreaming Isn’t a Waste of Time


Parents and teachers expend a lot of energy getting kids to pay attention, concentrate, and focus on the task in front of them. What adults don’t do, according to University of Southern California education professor Mary Helen Immordino-Yang, is teach children the value of the more diffuse mental activity that characterizes our inner lives: daydreaming, remembering, reflecting.

Yet this kind of introspection is crucial to our mental health, to our relationships, and to our emotional and moral development. And it promotes the skill parents and teachers care so much about: the capacity to focus on the world outside our heads.
Our brains have two operating systems, Immordino-Yang and her coauthors explain in an article to be published in the journal Perspectives on Psychological Science. The first, which they call the “looking out system,” orients our attention to the external environment, allowing us to get stuff done. The other, which they term the “looking in system,” directs us inward, setting our thoughts
A lack of time to daydream may even hamper kids’ capacity to pay attention when they need to.

free to wander. By scanning the brains of study subjects asked simply to rest and relax, scientists have discovered that our minds are anything but inactive in these moments. Relieved of the obligation to pay attention to what’s going on around us, we engage instead with a rich internal environment: recalling the past, imagining the future, replaying recent interactions and sorting out our feelings. It’s when we engage our brains’ “looking in” mode, notes Immordino-Yang, that we make meaning out of the mass of experiences and information we encounter when we’re “looking out.”

Young people may have fewer opportunities to exercise the vital capacity of introspection. Immordino-Yang fingers two culprits: educational practices that demand constant attentiveness, even from young children, and a hyper-connected world that insistently draws attention away from the world inside. “If youths overuse social media, if they spend very little waking time free from the possibility that a text will interrupt them,” the authors write, “we would expect that these conditions might predispose youths toward focusing on the concrete, physical and immediate aspects of situation and self, with less inclination toward considering the abstract, longer-term, moral and emotional implications of their and others’ actions.”

Ironically, a lack of time to daydream may even hamper kids’ capacity to pay attention when they need to. The ability to become absorbed in our own thoughts is linked to our ability to focus intently on the world outside, research indicates. In one recent neuro-imaging study, for example, participants alternated periods of mental rest with periods of looking at images and listening to sounds. The more effectively the neural regions associated with “looking in” were activated during rest and deactivated while attending to the visual and auditory stimuli, the more engaged were the brain’s sensory cortices in response to sights and sounds.
Focus and concentration are essential, of course. But so are introspection and reflection, and Immordino-Yang and her colleagues recommend that adults help children find a balance between the two modes: by regularly unplugging our kids’ blinking, buzzing devices, and by providing time and space for a quieter, more inward kind of entertainment.-
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How many times are we seeing people out and about in nature, surrounded by the most wonderful sights and sounds and smells, and yet they are glues either by eye or ear to their precious mobile phones? What is that doing to us? WHY is that doing to us?


Now see this:

What’s the Difference Between Daydreaming and Meditating?
When daydreaming, you allow your mind to lead you on whatever tangents it wants. You may be fantasizing about your future or remembering a time in your past. In meditation, however, you keep a focused awareness in the present, and dismiss the tangent thoughts in your mind. That’s not to say you shouldn’t daydream. Daydreaming is a fantastic way to inspire yourself – just don’t do it while you’re meditating!


So what have we here? We have the same guilting process going on that one must "focus". But why isn't the 'present' just you daydreaming? Or weaving in and out of 'daydreaming' and 'attentiveness' without the pressure to focus. Get me?

I am just bringing this to your attention, because I personally do not 'try and focus', but just allow natural being.

It is quite funny, because modern culture doesn't know what either consciousness is nor what matter is, so any demand to 'focus' is quite ironical because focus on 'WHAT'? Life is complete mystery lol
 

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So what have we here? We have the same guilting process going on that one must "focus". But why isn't the 'present' just you daydreaming? Or weaving in and out of 'daydreaming' and 'attentiveness' without the pressure to focus. Get me?

I am just bringing this to your attention, because I personally do not 'try and focus', but just allow natural being.

It is quite funny, because modern culture doesn't know what either consciousness is nor what matter is, so any demand to 'focus' is quite ironical because focus on 'WHAT'? Life is complete mystery lol

that is a rather interesting point there. because one really can do nothing but be in the present! haha! on the other hand, i do find a certain personal value in being aware that i am daydreaming as opposed to simply wandering in my mind for a half hour, then coming to and realizing that nothing can be remembered from that whole half hour. but who am i to say? perhaps the whole idea is to be so enveloped in the whole thing that one is so relaxed that they don't recall much of it at all. but doesn't that sounds like daydreaming? hahaha

could meditation=daydreaming? keep in mind, this is not fantasizing or thinking about what one wants to, but just letting nature take it's course, which of course could be just that! haha. im feeling the pull of getting the thought loops here. the whole concept is very cyclical.

really, overall i think that it is important that one enjoys themselves while they meditate, what goes on beyond that is very subjective and very personal.
 
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