Ololiúqui [Turbina corumbosa s. Rivea corymbosa] dosage?

[afer]

The question is- has anyone here had an experience with these LSA seeds?
If so, how many of them should one use? Any tips on preparation are welcome.
Info on the net seems utterly confusing- dosages range from 10 to 100 seeds per person. So do the alkaloid contents. Hofmann's writings indicate that Turbina corymbosa contains two times less ergine that Ipomoea tricolor. This, however, is somehow dubious, as the upper dose limit of Turbina, according to most of the reports [~160 seeds], is way lower than that of Ipomoea [up to 700].

 

[Shamanita]

i've tried it couple of times so far..

I would start with 30 - 40 seeds, to see how strong the seeds are..

To me, 40 seeds was a sufficient dose


edit: I've read that rivea corymbosa has the highest concetration of LSA, even higher then in HBWR.

 

[afer]

Great, thanks for feedback on this!
The reason I've decided to try Rivea is because it is said to have the least number of chemicals that make you sick. I'm going to grind it up and stuck into gelcaps. However, I'm more inclined to use around 80-90 seeds as I found myself to be rather insensitive to LSA [my typical Morning Glory dose ranges from 13 to 16 grams].
Anyhow, I'm planning to trip straight tomorrow, so'll soon let you know how it all went!

 

[afer]

Well it sucked big time!
100 seeds of Rivea corymbosa were ground and stuffed into gelcaps.
No food intake 7 hours prior to the "trip".
There were 3 of us who ingested the capsules and we barely felt anything..Some nausea, some tiredness, some jaw clenching. All these vanished after about 2 hours. Not psychedelic at all.

 

[magickpencil]

don't let your poor first experience throw you off
Rivea corymbosa seeds are notorious for potency variance, especially from vendor to vendor
do some research!
Rivea / HBW seeds: most reliable vendor? MJB-Botanicals? at the Edot forums

of interest to the LSA connoisseur: Recipes for Organic LSD (LSH) at the DMT-Nexus forums

 

[afer]

Thank you for the links magickpencil! Btw, seeds were from Maya ethnobotanicals.