odd effects

[jory_mikel]

ok, so im sorta new to SD, ive only been smoking for about a month or so, but i bought some 30x last week, and i smoked a little and then a few hours later me and my friend's roommate smoked some cannabis, about 1/2 an hour later, i started noticing some very adverse effects, and that something wasnt going right at all. i felt my chest and my heart was pounding harder and faster than it everf has, and my head started swimming and i started feeling sick and my entire body felt dry and my lungs felt like there were needles in them. the room started spinning and i felt like i was going to puke, and i got the feeling like i was going to die. it felt very similar to taking high amounts of ephedrine or some sort of stimulant. we got done smoking at about 11pm and i was still feeling these effects at around 5:30am. has anyone ever felt anything like this when combining salvia with any other substance? i dont know this kid very well, and he has done crack and things like that, these effects arent like anything ive ever experienced with cannabis or salvia, do you think he might have laced it? or do you figure that was just a bad combo for me?

 

[JustinNed]

Well I'm quite new to Salvia myself but I have smoked salvia while baked and didn't have any problems, as far as lacing the weed I can't think of any drug that would cause that to happen.

 

[st.bot.32]

I know salvia sometimes gives me an increased heartrate but effects are usually gone completely in like 1/2 hour to an hour..

how much weed did you smoke and how potent was it? im no expert but maybe you might have had a bad mj experience? this happened to me when i overdid it.. it felt like even though i was breathing my lungs weren't really there, then i felt my lungs were cut on the inside from the heat of the smoke.. then i thought i was going to die from asphyxiation.. finally i actually passed out (and slowly too) of course this was combined with absolutely tripping balls in a nauseating sort of way during and for hours after. bleh. new respect for the herb after that night.

 

[thadivine]

i guess it could be the weed, not the salvia, When i started smoking i had a similar experience (combined with much alcohol), it made me have respect for the huge effect weed can have...

 

[jory_mikel]

about a nickel or so. it didnt look very potent, it was really brown and dry looking. i dont know, it was a very frightening experience, i guess maybe it was just me, because what kinda hit it off was i felt my chest and it felt like my heart was literally pounding through my sternum, like my chest plate wasnt there and i could feel my heart itself bumping underneath the skin. thats when i started thinking something was wrong, maybe i just got myself worried, but it lasted for like 6 or 7 hours, thats what i dont get.

 

[JustinNed]

Could of been some medical problem that just coincidently happened at the same time.

 

[Entheonaut]

I've smoked salvia once when I was stoned already and I didn't enjoy it (not to the extent you've described though). I don't know if it's a personal thing but I just don't like to mix those two.

Just be careful mixing drugs... I've had very bad experiences with certain "cocktails" (but very nice combinations also offcourse ).

 

[Lion]

When i did salvia and smoked cannabis before i did not like it either. Very weird body feeling etc..

 

[Psychoid]

FIrst time I smoked cannabis I had effects similar to what you describe. It was the biggest badtrip of my life, I was on speed for the first time too at the same time, I was sitting in class on my chair and had an heartbeat of 190 bpm. You can imagine the nightmare. I really thought I was going to die. Since then, badtripping seems impossible to me. Having no fun while stoned or tripping happens, but badtripping, no. It happenned a few times in the year after that experience that while stoned hard similar effect came back and I started thinking I was gonna die again. Now it never happens anymore, but those experiences have had a positive effect after all: Now I'm not scared of death anymore, I could die tomorrow I would leave this world with few regrets. You know, the main thought you have in that situation is "I am going to die because I smoked a plant... what a joke, such a stupid death" This made me realise that death constantly has an eye on you and can come just anytime in any form. I could die in 2 minutes, but also in 80 years. Being scared of death means being permanently scared, because our lives are constantly at risk, even more in our modern society, with all those machines like cars But still I'd prefer much more to live for at least 20 more years I still have so many things to do, learn and discover...