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Dude this is about meditation, what your saying isn't cheesy at least it works. What happens when jesus sits next to you or whatever? I don't quite get that. I'm not religious myself, but I definitely won't refuse to try that technique if it works for you. I'm gonna meditate right now just to get my min off thingsI've always treated meditation as a path to uninhibited self control. The ability to let the mind maintain your life as opposed to constantly being pulled in a hundred directions at once. Turning everything into action instead of reaction.
For me I mix meditation with prayer. But for me that works because I relate to Jesus as a person and a being and not just a force or a concept. I actually interact with him and converse with him and we sit down and meditate together. I allow him to take control of my mind and lead me wherever he wants.
In that sense I relax into the experience and submit myself completely until he asks me to be more active in the experience.
I start by simply finding a comfortable position but I have found as I have gotten more experienced in the meditation I have needed less and less comfort to acheive the same level of awareness of self and in fact sometimes find that certain amount of discomfort enables me to push myself further as I meditate myself away from the discomfort.
Like now I can meditate in any chair in the house. I can even do it standing up in certain instances. When I wont be blocking traffic I just stop whatever I am doing whenever I feel the time is right and meditate/pray for 5 minutes in exactly whatever position I was in at the moment.
In the begining I used a recliner and made sure that my body was fully suported and comfortable. Then I would start with breathing exercises and just concentrate on my breathing. As i got into the prayer side of things I focused myself into an awareness of Christ. Thats kind of hard to explain but its like just 'envisioning'. Its not based on logic or reason it just is. You are just aware. Its been so long I cant entirely remember how I got started in that part because I started the prayer long before I started the meditation. Starting both at once might be tougher because you need to train your mind to block out all the crap that tries to distract you away from focusing on God. Its kind of like you become a painted target of distraction whenever you focus on God and so doing that with meditation at the same time is like double the trouble.
I know that now I can reach a sense of perfect peace and self awareness pretty much instantly at any time and in any place. I used to use it at the dentist's office to block out pain when the anesthesia wore off. Just focus myself into this serenty and the drilling to a back seat and it was like I was in this other room and the dentist was working on me far away.
Maintaining that can be draining sometimes especially if the stimuli your trying to negate is intense or chaotic. Seems like stimuli that constantly changes is actually harder to negate then constant yet intense. You can almost use the drilling sound as a nice monotonous tone to relax to where as the scraping of the pick is more irritating and harder to avoid.
For myself meditation and prayer has allowed to me to move into new depths of understanding of myself, God and reality. I think that is something I can attribute some of my survival of this veil lifting to. Having God as a person and myself through meditation to draw on in times of hecticness and chaos.
HIGHLY recommend it but what you get out of it really is what you put into it. In terms of 'skills' its kind of like an anti-skill. You cant meditate something else, you have to meditate and let the meditation change you so that your relationship to that sometime else changes.
Sounds cheesy but its a lot like the spoon in the matrix. It is yourself that bends. Meditation changes you and it isnt that the drilling at the dentist hurts less its that your perception of the drilling changes and the pain becomes less important compared to the rest of reality.
Hope that makes sense and helps someone.
Nanosage a dit:Dude this is about meditation, what your saying isn't cheesy at least it works. What happens when jesus sits next to you or whatever? I don't quite get that. I'm not religious myself, but I definitely won't refuse to try that technique if it works for you. I'm gonna meditate right now just to get my min off things
thanks for the advice
I remember, remembering everything I have ever said or done and just thinking of how ridiculous others would see me as.. The problem is I cant ever express what is in my head without sounding like some jackass, does that make me a jackass?
when i trip, i usually stop talking for a few hours on end. i dont like when people try to call me out on it, because i am well aware that i have nothing to say. i dont force it
Crimzen a dit:when i trip, i usually stop talking for a few hours on end. i dont like when people try to call me out on it, because i am well aware that i have nothing to say. i dont force it
Im exactly the same, i talk fairly little in normal everyday life
but when i trip i often go quiet, for a few reasons, one being that i feel what i have to say is often irrelevant to the subject of the current conversation
another reason is that im too busy thinking and experiencing things
theres many other reasons, but my friends cant seem to get this and end up acting weird or trying to encourage me to talk which just makes me uncomfortable and less willing to speak
sometimes when im on acid i dont filter my speech and so the words and sentences that come out of my mouth arent consciously thought about and hence sometimes dont make sense to other people
so this adds to me not wanting to talk much
its not that i feel uncomfortable speaking or that i really dont want to, its just that i dont see the point
(this is not absolute, i do talk on acid, but go silent for long periods of time, usually as the trip gets more intense)