cyroxos
Neurotransmetteur
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- 19/6/08
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One of the main things that truly bother me in life is sheer relativity of perception among people. There is a colossal difference in the lifestyles of myself, my good friend, and my good friend's good friends. We all live within the same large metropolitan area, in the same major city of the same state of the same country. If our three lives can be so incredibly different, it is almost unimaginable the magnitude of the difference between my life and the life of a poor widowed mother living in a third world country under the impressive rule of a totalitarian ruler across the globe from my home.
This is truly bothersome. If my perception of life can be changed by driving 12 miles to a friend's house, then it is clear why so many religions and philosophies have arisen in the world.
We can conclude that two things cause a person's mentality. The first is genetics, the paring of nucleotides and the supposed formation of the genetic code of a new human being. The second is environment. Environment may seem like something that can be controlled by an individual, but it cannot. The very first moments of one's life are controlled by the initial biological reactions to certain stimuli - since no memories have been formed yet, and cannot form, the infant is a blank slate, and its only actions are the result of parental input and genetic instincts. So, when the infant is a toddler, the reason it smiles when seeing it's mother's face is in fact due to a chemical process in the brain that regulates shape and pattern recognition and a part of the brain that controls oxytocin - the neurotransmitter that makes a person feel love and apartness. So, eventually you can see that even when the child grows up to a teenager and is confronted with the option to use illegal drugs, the resulting decision is not the product of the person's will, but of genetics and environment, both of which are not controllable. Thus, if ANYTHING goes wrong in ones life, one can blame everything else for causing the environment to behave in a way which impressed the indivigual to become what he/she currently is.
We can see from this example that when you make a decision you are not actually deciding anything, but merely acting as the result of previous events. The teen who has to choose whether or not to use drugs is acting on the account of how his parents raised him, how genetically outgoing and irrational he is, and even subtle events that occur in life such as him tripping on the sidewalk three and a half weeks earlier.
It would seem like I digress, but really, my point is coming to a nexus. How do we form a world-view when our world-view will be deluded by our environment? The answer lies within our memories - we need to get rid of them. If there was some sort of way we could completely erase every pre-existing bias and impression we have, our minds would be acting in a way that cannot be buffered by previous event. Of course there is still the genetic inconsistency between people's minds, yet the philosophy formed from being in this memory-less state will drastically more accurate.
I experienced something like this when i took my first psychedelic trip on psilocybin mushrooms.
I will outline a series of experiences that I believe is a much better way of viewing the world than our normal, convoluted and deluded state of mind.
Imagine, if you will, all of the sudden, finding yourself in the middle of a rural area, a wilderness of rocks and trees. However, you are not aware of that, you have absolutely no memory of anything. It may be hard to imagine not knowing anything; the extreme state of having absolutely no connection with any former thought or memory. However, try and think to yourself what it would be like if you were in this situation.
All of the sudden, you are conscious. You are being stimulated by your senses. You see shapes, colors, patterns. You hear vibrations, rhythmic and repeating audio stimulations. You can feel tactile stimulations all over your body. Of course, you at this point are not aware of what your body is, or what you are, or what sound or color are. You are extremely stimulated by all this, and take a moment to just reflect on it.
You notice that you can manipulate what you are observing in subtle ways. You notice that you can change your viewpoint - what you are observing - in subtle ways. You start to make connections between the movements of two long projectile-like obtrusions in front of you. You notice your hands and your arms, and how you can manipulate them. You start to feel your own body and realize that everything you have the ability to move is connected to this warm and soft piece of flesh. You realize that all of your senses regard this object; however, you can use your self to manipulate objects that are not connected to it. You can pick up rocks and dirt and move them around. Eventually, over time, you begin to learn how to interact and control your environment more and more. You learn how to move your body; you start to stumble from place to place, still trying to figure out what is going on.
You start to make more connections. You understand that reality is rather dynamic - it will change even if you do not directly modify it. You start to notice similarities in the shapes you observe with your eyes. You recognize things that make you feel a new sensation of pain. You recognize things that make you feel pleasure.
At this point, after some deep reflection, you come to the conclusion that you exist. You believe that you are in fact something. You decide that at least two things must exist, yourself, and another object which is causing all these things that you observe. You also justify this with the fact that you need at least two different states in order to create data - binary code is the simplest form of code possible; anything simpler would just be "00000..." to infinity and thus producing no information. After this revelation, you decide that you are going to try and figure out what is going on - this includes where you are, what you are, who you are, and why you are here to begin with. So, you start to interact with your environment again to try and produce results that will somehow explain things more.
In your searching, you notice that you are surrounded by hundreds, no, thousands of other shapes that appear to be just like yourself. They are all moving around partaking in similar movements as you are. You feel the urge to somehow convey what you feel and think to them, yet, you do not know how.
Since you cannot formulate words, let alone sentences about your philosophy of life, you must resort to a much simpler communication. You just look at another person, and you both sort of stumble along together. You feel that the other person knows a bit more of what's going on, so you follow them, you hold on to their arm, you stand close to them.
As parts of your memory begin to come back to you, you are now able to create simple sentences. You of course ask who you are, where are you, why are you etc. The other person's answers are vague, baffling, and admit that they too do not know who they are, or where or why they exist.
You then come to the conclusion that you are surrounded by thousands of people who are all in the same situation that you are in. There are different ways that people are handling it. Some just decide that they do not care about the physical reason why they are here, they simply try and please their senses and move with the flow. Others walk around asking the same questions you are.
"What time is it?"
"Oh, I don’t know, do you know?"
"Do I know what?"
"The time?"
"Oh, yea, what time is it?"
"I don’t know, do you?"
"Nope, let’s go look for someone who does"
"Okay, what are we looking for?"
"The time"
"Time? What is time?"
Everyone around you is searching for answers. Everyone is as damned confused as you, yet some handle it differently. You eventually learn what your name is, and you learn that you are at a music festival in a remote area. You learn that you drove here by car, and ate some mushrooms and were tripping for the past 6 hours. You learn that life is just as you left it.
Slowly, all your memories begin to come back to you in waves - wave after wave come new realizations of what exactly just happened.
You are now almost completely back to normal, yet, you can still see other people walking around in a daze, trying to figure out what's happening. You realize that there are people at different stages of this experience. Some are just recently entering it, other are coming down from the high. You are almost completely back to reality.
~
This example naturally is of a music festival environment. This sort of experience can be very common among the drug culture. However, it is not limited to just that. I feel that many people have experiences of confusion, delusion, and illusion in day-to-day life. It can happen at any time, while driving, while just wakening up from a hard sleep, while zoning out in an airport terminal. Such delusions that allow for the quantization of the human consciousness are rather frequent. We must be able to interpret the.
From this example, it is evident that our perception of reality is really quite simple.
First, you have one’s consciousness, the point of awareness that is at the center of our mentality. Connected to our point of awareness is the input of our senses. We have many senses, each giving us a clue about what is going on in . Then, also connected to our point of consciousness is the ability to output information. We can output data and then observe the processed data through our input. Now, we do not just have the point of our consciousness, we have the ability to store away information as memory to be referenced later. So that’s it; that is reality.
One can argue that there is no sense of . That everything comes from some sort of memory. Because the would be an infinitely small section of time that is constantly changing. In reality, we cannot observe things that are infinitely small. Thus, there is no . But we do have a sense of now, even though it does not exist. As you read this, you can close your eyes and think to yourself, this is my point of consciousness, and at this point in time that ever changes, I AM.
What are the implications of this? There should be no religion, no fancy philosophies, no self worth, and no notion of freedom of choice...%
Life is input --> output --> process --> store. We cannot determine our true origin because just as a simple computer-based input-output program, the operator cannot determine the exact source code by just input-output operations that are processed by the code.
So what should we do with our lives? .... Just as the computer user who tries to understand the program’s source code by using the program, we may not be able to fully understand the details of the source, but we can find out a lot, especially with a program as advanced as life. But we don’t need to worry about religions, and many other things that distract us from the root of our purpose. One of our purposes is to live, like the ravers at the music festival, we are here to run the program, and let it control us.
The other option is to study the environment, to learn as much as we can from this program and pass that information down to the next generation and let them build from there. Eventually, we may have a damn-good natural law established for explaining the physical universe. But I do believe that this program's code is obfuscated, and is not entirely open-source.
The last option we can choose to live is a state of self-delusion. We can choose to ignore the implications of our perception and live a life of ignorance. We can assign ourselves duties and morals that of which have no basis. We can live to respect laws and principals created by other people who assign themselves self-worth. We can live a productive life and believe that what we do is worthwhile and necessary. Lawyers, businessmen, politicians we can become. Yet, if we believe that the positions themselves carry with them value, we are deluded. There is no value to anything. Everything is just stimuli to us. We can assign a value to our consciousness, yet in reality, our consciousness is the byproduct of physical systems of interaction. We do not assign value to the state of a thunderstorm, or a pile of sand; yet, we value the state of our mentality – which in the end is just another complex system like the rest.
Cyroxos - How will it end?
This is truly bothersome. If my perception of life can be changed by driving 12 miles to a friend's house, then it is clear why so many religions and philosophies have arisen in the world.
We can conclude that two things cause a person's mentality. The first is genetics, the paring of nucleotides and the supposed formation of the genetic code of a new human being. The second is environment. Environment may seem like something that can be controlled by an individual, but it cannot. The very first moments of one's life are controlled by the initial biological reactions to certain stimuli - since no memories have been formed yet, and cannot form, the infant is a blank slate, and its only actions are the result of parental input and genetic instincts. So, when the infant is a toddler, the reason it smiles when seeing it's mother's face is in fact due to a chemical process in the brain that regulates shape and pattern recognition and a part of the brain that controls oxytocin - the neurotransmitter that makes a person feel love and apartness. So, eventually you can see that even when the child grows up to a teenager and is confronted with the option to use illegal drugs, the resulting decision is not the product of the person's will, but of genetics and environment, both of which are not controllable. Thus, if ANYTHING goes wrong in ones life, one can blame everything else for causing the environment to behave in a way which impressed the indivigual to become what he/she currently is.
We can see from this example that when you make a decision you are not actually deciding anything, but merely acting as the result of previous events. The teen who has to choose whether or not to use drugs is acting on the account of how his parents raised him, how genetically outgoing and irrational he is, and even subtle events that occur in life such as him tripping on the sidewalk three and a half weeks earlier.
It would seem like I digress, but really, my point is coming to a nexus. How do we form a world-view when our world-view will be deluded by our environment? The answer lies within our memories - we need to get rid of them. If there was some sort of way we could completely erase every pre-existing bias and impression we have, our minds would be acting in a way that cannot be buffered by previous event. Of course there is still the genetic inconsistency between people's minds, yet the philosophy formed from being in this memory-less state will drastically more accurate.
I experienced something like this when i took my first psychedelic trip on psilocybin mushrooms.
I will outline a series of experiences that I believe is a much better way of viewing the world than our normal, convoluted and deluded state of mind.
Imagine, if you will, all of the sudden, finding yourself in the middle of a rural area, a wilderness of rocks and trees. However, you are not aware of that, you have absolutely no memory of anything. It may be hard to imagine not knowing anything; the extreme state of having absolutely no connection with any former thought or memory. However, try and think to yourself what it would be like if you were in this situation.
All of the sudden, you are conscious. You are being stimulated by your senses. You see shapes, colors, patterns. You hear vibrations, rhythmic and repeating audio stimulations. You can feel tactile stimulations all over your body. Of course, you at this point are not aware of what your body is, or what you are, or what sound or color are. You are extremely stimulated by all this, and take a moment to just reflect on it.
You notice that you can manipulate what you are observing in subtle ways. You notice that you can change your viewpoint - what you are observing - in subtle ways. You start to make connections between the movements of two long projectile-like obtrusions in front of you. You notice your hands and your arms, and how you can manipulate them. You start to feel your own body and realize that everything you have the ability to move is connected to this warm and soft piece of flesh. You realize that all of your senses regard this object; however, you can use your self to manipulate objects that are not connected to it. You can pick up rocks and dirt and move them around. Eventually, over time, you begin to learn how to interact and control your environment more and more. You learn how to move your body; you start to stumble from place to place, still trying to figure out what is going on.
You start to make more connections. You understand that reality is rather dynamic - it will change even if you do not directly modify it. You start to notice similarities in the shapes you observe with your eyes. You recognize things that make you feel a new sensation of pain. You recognize things that make you feel pleasure.
At this point, after some deep reflection, you come to the conclusion that you exist. You believe that you are in fact something. You decide that at least two things must exist, yourself, and another object which is causing all these things that you observe. You also justify this with the fact that you need at least two different states in order to create data - binary code is the simplest form of code possible; anything simpler would just be "00000..." to infinity and thus producing no information. After this revelation, you decide that you are going to try and figure out what is going on - this includes where you are, what you are, who you are, and why you are here to begin with. So, you start to interact with your environment again to try and produce results that will somehow explain things more.
In your searching, you notice that you are surrounded by hundreds, no, thousands of other shapes that appear to be just like yourself. They are all moving around partaking in similar movements as you are. You feel the urge to somehow convey what you feel and think to them, yet, you do not know how.
Since you cannot formulate words, let alone sentences about your philosophy of life, you must resort to a much simpler communication. You just look at another person, and you both sort of stumble along together. You feel that the other person knows a bit more of what's going on, so you follow them, you hold on to their arm, you stand close to them.
As parts of your memory begin to come back to you, you are now able to create simple sentences. You of course ask who you are, where are you, why are you etc. The other person's answers are vague, baffling, and admit that they too do not know who they are, or where or why they exist.
You then come to the conclusion that you are surrounded by thousands of people who are all in the same situation that you are in. There are different ways that people are handling it. Some just decide that they do not care about the physical reason why they are here, they simply try and please their senses and move with the flow. Others walk around asking the same questions you are.
"What time is it?"
"Oh, I don’t know, do you know?"
"Do I know what?"
"The time?"
"Oh, yea, what time is it?"
"I don’t know, do you?"
"Nope, let’s go look for someone who does"
"Okay, what are we looking for?"
"The time"
"Time? What is time?"
Everyone around you is searching for answers. Everyone is as damned confused as you, yet some handle it differently. You eventually learn what your name is, and you learn that you are at a music festival in a remote area. You learn that you drove here by car, and ate some mushrooms and were tripping for the past 6 hours. You learn that life is just as you left it.
Slowly, all your memories begin to come back to you in waves - wave after wave come new realizations of what exactly just happened.
You are now almost completely back to normal, yet, you can still see other people walking around in a daze, trying to figure out what's happening. You realize that there are people at different stages of this experience. Some are just recently entering it, other are coming down from the high. You are almost completely back to reality.
~
This example naturally is of a music festival environment. This sort of experience can be very common among the drug culture. However, it is not limited to just that. I feel that many people have experiences of confusion, delusion, and illusion in day-to-day life. It can happen at any time, while driving, while just wakening up from a hard sleep, while zoning out in an airport terminal. Such delusions that allow for the quantization of the human consciousness are rather frequent. We must be able to interpret the.
From this example, it is evident that our perception of reality is really quite simple.
First, you have one’s consciousness, the point of awareness that is at the center of our mentality. Connected to our point of awareness is the input of our senses. We have many senses, each giving us a clue about what is going on in . Then, also connected to our point of consciousness is the ability to output information. We can output data and then observe the processed data through our input. Now, we do not just have the point of our consciousness, we have the ability to store away information as memory to be referenced later. So that’s it; that is reality.
One can argue that there is no sense of . That everything comes from some sort of memory. Because the would be an infinitely small section of time that is constantly changing. In reality, we cannot observe things that are infinitely small. Thus, there is no . But we do have a sense of now, even though it does not exist. As you read this, you can close your eyes and think to yourself, this is my point of consciousness, and at this point in time that ever changes, I AM.
What are the implications of this? There should be no religion, no fancy philosophies, no self worth, and no notion of freedom of choice...%
Life is input --> output --> process --> store. We cannot determine our true origin because just as a simple computer-based input-output program, the operator cannot determine the exact source code by just input-output operations that are processed by the code.
So what should we do with our lives? .... Just as the computer user who tries to understand the program’s source code by using the program, we may not be able to fully understand the details of the source, but we can find out a lot, especially with a program as advanced as life. But we don’t need to worry about religions, and many other things that distract us from the root of our purpose. One of our purposes is to live, like the ravers at the music festival, we are here to run the program, and let it control us.
The other option is to study the environment, to learn as much as we can from this program and pass that information down to the next generation and let them build from there. Eventually, we may have a damn-good natural law established for explaining the physical universe. But I do believe that this program's code is obfuscated, and is not entirely open-source.
The last option we can choose to live is a state of self-delusion. We can choose to ignore the implications of our perception and live a life of ignorance. We can assign ourselves duties and morals that of which have no basis. We can live to respect laws and principals created by other people who assign themselves self-worth. We can live a productive life and believe that what we do is worthwhile and necessary. Lawyers, businessmen, politicians we can become. Yet, if we believe that the positions themselves carry with them value, we are deluded. There is no value to anything. Everything is just stimuli to us. We can assign a value to our consciousness, yet in reality, our consciousness is the byproduct of physical systems of interaction. We do not assign value to the state of a thunderstorm, or a pile of sand; yet, we value the state of our mentality – which in the end is just another complex system like the rest.
Cyroxos - How will it end?
