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First salvia trip - not sure

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I really wanted to like salvia. I smoked some 25x extract (from the sage wisdom shop). I smoked an entire dose, or at least, what comes packaged as on dose. (i think it's 1/20th of a gram). I took it in two, deep, full, long inhales.

I had a couple minutes of altered perception. I didn't have m glasses on, and the fuzzy shapes of the shadows on my cieling became a moving, waving ocean of medicine pills. I threw my arm around in circles, swinging it wildly around....then I came down.

I walked into the other room. (I really sort of staggered.) I diagnosed some of my odd feelings (hot under the collar, dizzy) as being related to my diabetes: I get these feelings when my blood sugar drops, and I found I was right, and rectified the situation. (Note that low blood sugar came have a litany of effects, and they can last for a while after the sugar has been corrected.)

I noticed my vision was altered, and that time was passing at a very odd, stuttering pace. But nothing mind-blowing, no new ways of seeing things. I was very disappointed.

So I took another dosage pack (same strength extract). A little miffed that the first one hadn't worked, I smoked the entire thing in one ripping, deep inhale. I fell back on my bed, and lost myself. The lights on the ceiling. On the wall. I didn't know where I was, or why the fuck this curtain of beads had covered my vision. (I have awful, awful vision, and, with my glasses off, anything I could see was heavily blurred.)

I started freaking out. The beads were covering everything. They became everything. I knew I was freaking out, and tried to find something I could focus on, something I recognized. I couldn't. Couldn't figure out what the hell the lights were on either side of my bed (actually reflections from clocks, my computer, etc., but in the dark and my blurry vision, nothing.) There was a crowd of people, (where, I don't know) that was....not watching me, but waiting, talking among themselves, like a crowd before a rock concert, and I was the star. The beads wrapped around my arm and my throat and, instead of talking, all I had were beads pouring out of my mouth.

I stood up as the beads consumed the wall next to me. I started goose stepping around my bedroom, checking where the beads had gotten in to, and what they were doing. I passed a lighted corridor, then doubled back and took the corridor into my living room, except I couldn't identify it as such, and there were people there waiting for me, talking to each other but I couldn't hear them. I didn't talk because they couldn't hear me. They didn't notice I was there.

I saw a blue sofa. I recognized it. Found myself. Started to come down. Walked back into the bedroom. Put my glasses on.

I had an intense experience, but I didn't know what to expect, and when it happened, I freaked. I think if I had let the beads wash over me, instead of running away, I would have had a different experience. I also think I might be a salvia hardhead. I took what appears to be pretty large dose (compared to what others online have said) and, while I did trip out, it wasn't until a second, equal dose that I really lost reality. Even then, it didn't last very long, and I didn't gain any insight.

I feel (deeply feel, in a spiritual sense) that I have a lot to learn from psychedelic experiences. I want to see things outside of myself.

Any tips, or comments would be much appreciated. I didn't have the experience I wanted, and I'm not sure if it was me or the drug. Thanks for your help.
 
you should start with ridiculy low dosages, and not with the 25x extract. psychedelic experiences are nothing to play with. you want to learn, so you start low and build your way from there. heavy dosages do not mean that you "trip hard" and have a "great time". if you are searching for a great time, do some heroin. psychedelics can really punch you in the stomach several times. at least for me it is so. they don't give me a great time (and i don't think they should), but they teach me many, many things. i wish you great exploration, and be more careful...you can get yourself hurt with SD. just let it go and don't fight it...SD can treat you bad, but it is a good friend and teaches many things, if you are willing to learn and don't be a lowsy pupil like you were - she was explaining things to you and you freaked out and did not listened. stop, listen and don't question. you'll have plenty of time to think it over after...
good tripping!
 
imo Salvia isn't the best teacher the psychedelic world has to offer. Browse around a bit. I'm new myself and there is a lot of information to be gathered.

An important thing is to start slow. Don't expect to be able to hold a good trip the first time. Build it up. I've yet to have my first 'bad' trip.
 
It is very common for it to take a little time for the mind's salvinorin detector to get activated. Now that it is activated, you may find that your sensitivity will increase even more.

It's time to work with much milder doses. Cut that dose down, and divide what you smoke into several tiny hits to give yourself more time to enter Salvia space.

I really like tincture. Very gentle and smooth. Much easier to adjust to the changes as they come much more slowly. 5-10 minutes instead of 5-10 seconds, and it is amazing how much of a difference that makes. I wrote in the thread about tincture.

If you want to take a mushroom or acid trip, you have to set aside a whole day or night for it. It takes an hour just for effects to start to develop, and you won't be into the place where the mind becomes clear and visionary for a couple of more hours... roughly speaking.

With Salvia, you can come home from work or school, eat dinner, do some chores, get into bed, have an amazing salvia session (perhaps a 45 minute tincture session), go to sleep, get up in the morning and go to work, feeling fine. Then, within a week, you could do this again with no tolerance developing.

Being able to take amazing journeys inside the space of an hour is truly remarkable. This plant is worth the patience it takes to develop a relationship.

Really, it is a plant more to be used for personal development than for "fun." However, the visions are very beautiful, and it is very enjoyable to have these amazing experiences.
 
Many good advice already given.

You said
I want to see things outside of myself.
but psychedelic experience is about our OWN self mostly, salvia maybe even more ego-centrical [or EGO-eliminating, depends on how you see it ;) ] compared to the classic psychedelics...

I didn't have the experience I wanted
there are several key- phrases like those two I quoted. Revelatory of a loose attitude towards the experience.

I say, learn yourself. Go for plain leaf. Explore lower doses. Even so, Salvia might not be for you, as it's not for everyone.
 
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