DMT calling - My presentation to community - UPDATE PHOTOS

[Zenflush]

Notes : sorry for some bad english ; i never used dmt .


Hi to all =)

what a great forum u guys have here ,


Im 28 right now , and for some years now one of my hobbys was reading about quantum physics and astronomy , not only conventional theories , i just cant believe any religion that we humans pray , and since i was a litlle child i couldnt make sence of a world not being infinite/eternal ( the tought off it provoked to me what seemed to be a 1 second panic attack ) time was weird for me i dont know why but since i was a litlle child i think a lot about this stuff .

I smoke weed for 12 years now , last 3 years almost daily , but i never touched any other drug except : 3xtimes cocaine ( didnt like it too much so imediatly gave up on that ) and 3 x times speeds ( didnt like it either ) .

For some time now i always tought about LSD and mushrooms at least trying , but to be honest i was too scary because of local histories , my fear was bigger then what shrooms and lsd seemed to give me as a reward so i gaved up on thinking on that again .

Last few years i turned into a very depressed person with life , and how the system is a pig for many humans , and my own personal life colapsed , so this hobbie became much stronger this last few years , i just have need to understand more about existence.....i really need ....

1 and half year ago things were changing , i finnaly was getting some friends in this new town i was living and got deep in love with this girl , i fight a lot for her , ended being my collapse , since it destroyed many of thoose friendships i had created and ignoring a very nice cool girl that liked me , i liked her too but i met that strong love first , and add to make a choise , and i made the wrong choise . Ended up with no girl ( i was alone for too much time ) and discovering dark sides of what i tought was good friends , so i too stay aways from all this people ending up alone in this town . ( this events made me a lot of problems at work too ) ( didnt help a lot that the very nice cool girl a few months later won the Idols show @ portugal , im happy for her but she constantly appears on tv and radio reminding me of my errors... )


Im feelling really bad with live in general ( im having sucess at work and at poker tables , but money seems so meaningless to me right now compared to friendship and love it feels like 0 for me , they cant even be compared so money isnt helping...., anti depressive pills never helped me too and it seems that my organism rejected them i felted bad and never took them for more then one month , so that wont help me either ...

I became obcessed with my hobby this last 2 months i was constantly having this tough of please if theres some superior entity outhere wont u give me one extra clue about life/existence because conventional science or not conventional are really not helping....

and then a few days later while i was watching some astronomy movie... BANG i found this 2 guys making comments on the video and kept talking about a substance called DMT that let u understand fractals etc ( subjects that i love ) , theire talk was so intersting i couldnt just escape and not study that new substance i never eard off ! so for the 2 last weeks i read many 1st tries experiences , and some of more advanced on matter people , and found that great doc. called spirit molecule and had to make this post a bit longer in consideration for lots of people on theese foruns that say that DMT really calls u ....

OMG i cant even explain how happy i feel after reading dozens off testemonies , how can it be that this substance show to people many stuff that i already believed in , how can this substance destroy time , how can this substance show infinite i just have to try this , this time the reward is infinite worth the risk , im gonna take it i just need , even reading that some people had problems ( paranoia breathing i hope its only that ) wich is one thing i really dont like , im still gonna put that smoke in my lungs without a second tough and with a very big smile ( altough i never toke allucinogens ) being one of the most powerfull substance on allucinogens doesnt scare me too altough acids , shrooms etc did and i now know theire weaker on the intensity side ( its just a big reward for what i read in the testemonies ), ...... it just feels that i was given a key ...... so im really not scared , actually im wishing it everyday from last few days ... and my setting is gonna be thinking on structure of atoms , dna , and fractal geometry ( maybe i have luck and it goes that way )

Now my problem is i wandered a bit on town looking for some mimosa trees and found a lot !!! man how can i tell if that is mimosa hostilis or other type of mimosa ( im afraid the wrong mimosa can make me bad )

is anyone here with capability if i take some photographs of the tree to tell me yeh thats the one for sure is this possible ?

secondary help ( as anyone found a really easy to do popular extraction method for unexperienced dummies )

I thank a lot for who can help me , i would be willing to pay a decent ammount of money too for dmt ready to be consumed , but only if is a know trusty member of this community


Many thanks and peace to our world

J.M.

 

[Light]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimosa_tenuiflora

This is the kind you need.

Try get pictures from the leaves up close, the tree as a whole, and if possible the flowers or fruits up close.

Only problem is that you need the bark of the roots, not the stems, so you would somehow need to dig and cut it out.

 

[Zenflush]

Thanks Light for helping me out , digging is not problem since there are a lot of mimosa trees in this town and in no public places , i will dig it tomorrow and put photos of bark and all tree , but then after i explored ure link i realized that the range of that mimosa type is south america , thats very far away from portugal so im suspecting is another mimosa tree species

 

[Light]

I have *heard* somewhere that there might be M. Hostilis growing in Portugal. I think I even might have read it somewhere on this forum years ago. Anyway, take some pictures. Maybe google how to harvest, there's probably some guidelines online as well, so you don't kill the tree.

 

[Zenflush]

yeah , im gonna read about harvest it so i wont kill it , just searched a bit and it seems that some people actually found it in wild in portugal and spain maybe im lucky

 

[Zenflush]

hi there ,

i wasnt very sucessfull on getting good photos , i didnt manage to take a look at the root because i choosed a bad spot and from 5 to 5 minutes one people would pass , gotta go to a wilder spot i know a bit far from here , mean while i put the only picks i got from leaf and from a dry fruit ????????? ( PS at this time of year they look like that but till one month ago they had
a lot of yellow flowers , but theire now very dry and no yellow flowers ) .

WHAT SEEMS TO BE DRY FRUITS ON IT WITH SEEDS ??????

im gonna try the root photos as soon as possible but maybe this ones can tell already if it is it or not :| many thanks for all

 

[IJesusChrist]

Yes that is a mimosa.

Can't tell what species from these pictures (or any pictures, really - you would need an expert)

Most mimosa have DMT though.

 

[Zenflush]

The problem is that i read somewhere that the other species have toxic components ? is this true ?

 

[IJesusChrist]

Yes and no...

I think certain parts of the plant, especially the leaves can have high toxins. But the bark and the root bark are for the most part safe, however always be more safe than sorry (take small amounts, see if there are feelings of instant sickness or so on).

But I do believe the barks to be the safest parts, and most dmt content. Wikipedia used to have a list of many species and their content, but someone took it down unfortunately. It was very useful for this!

Here's an important article:

Consumption of Acacia berlandieri Benth. by domestic livestock during periods of drought may result in a locomotor ataxia, as well as having negative effects on intake and male fertility. Four phenolic amines (N-methyl-β-phenethylamine, tyramine, N-methyltyramine, and hordenine), had previously been extracted from the plant, and N-methyl-β-phenethylamine has been shown to negatively impact fertility in female Angora goats. In order to clarify the possible role of other secondary compounds from previous termAcacia berlandierinext term on non-lethal toxicities in domestic livestock, leaf samples collected in the spring and autumn were subjected to rigorous chemical analysis. In addition to the four previously detected amines, 29 other alkaloids and amines were isolated and identified by GC-MS, these including nicotine, nornicotine, mescaline, mimosine, and four amphetamines. A significant increase in the number and relative quantities of these compounds was observed in late season foliage.

Ahh, here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ac ... _alkaloids

 

[Illegalsmile]

i would like to say, if you've never tripped before, you might want to practice with salvia or some weaker hallucinogens first. i read that you did not want to try mushrooms but i just think it would help you get a feel for what you're in for. you seem like you're sure that you will have a good experience or control where your trip goes, but ive read that they can be very depressing and intense. Sometimes people forget what they saw as soon as they come back. this is just my opinion, its all up to you

 

[IJesusChrist]

DMT can change your view on reality, however it is not often long lived, you forget the majority of the trip almost instantly, but over the period of a month or so you really don't remember why it was so intense.

It's a substance that needs incredible manipulation to obtain much from it... But the minutes following your come down you could be in a mind set that you wish you never had experienced - it is true. I definitely would not advise taking DMT as your first hallucinogen. And it's not one of those "I'm tough enough" things - but if you approach it that way, you will most certainly see you are not.

 

[Zenflush]

but i dont wanna see colors or feel high , i wanna see why they say its more real then this reality , and i wanna understand why they see my believes ( fractal universe , etc ) .... i only like to be a litlle high when i get home from work thats why i smoke weed and thats enough for me . i hope u guys understand +- my english , anyway im getting demoralized of taking it
because off ure awnser and some friends from my home town i told about this now think im crazy omg..


but tbh whats hitting me more to give up is that its so hard to find it already done and know is 100% pure...i cant even know if my trees are ok to do my own extraction

 

[Illegalsmile]

zen, DMT will make you HIGH. its the strongest and quickest tripping drug. you might see colors, who knows what you'll see. people see fractals on shrooms or even if you sit in darkness for a long time. ive heard dmt feels so real and vivid because its the same chemical when you dream and some dreams seem very real. that is all i know.if you're really interested, look for Terence McKenna's writings on dmt. he describes fractals and the beings people encounter. read alot of trip reports on the internet by people who tried it then you'll have a better idea of what you can expect.

good luck whatever you decide.

 

[WillyPeyote]

If can I help you offtopic,
instead on focusing only on DMT try also mescaline from cacti.

It's quite simple to buy a nice San Pedro and then extract the juice and trip..

 

[Frater_poop]

Hi there, am new, just found the forum but wanted to give my 5 cents to the threat.
I have not taken DMT myself also I has been part of my life since I was 13. (am 28 now) I read about ayahuasca when i was about 12 the first time... i have always been fascinated by drugs and especially hallucinogenics but especially DMT. but at that time it was unreachable for me... however it never left my mind and i kept reading books about it, listened to terrence Mckenna and other people and i made the decision long time ago that i will try it one day. it literally follows me. I had very tough/bad/healing trips on high doses of mushrooms or acid and am not afraid of ayahuasca (lol, sure i am but usually i am able to embrace fear,spiritual death and rebirth,loss of ego etc and grow from it.
I have the believe that certain drugs (hallucinogens) find you when its time and it finally found me. Jung would say its synchronicity but I think its just about time for me and my spiritual development to go there.

Long story short : what happened was that i started working with a coworker from brazil and he told me about the Santo Daimo churches and rituals. so here i am, waiting for the calling of the mother and then he shows up , gives me a number (in europe btw) to call to join a santo daimo church for a week and to join their rituals. so what do you think, shall i take the dive? I think i have to, when would i ever get a chance like this again? I would love to experience it in the frame of a ritual, together with people that take care of you and each other, help you through hard experiences and are there if you need them.

@ Zenflush are you looking for the roller coaster experience of smoking or the more gentle but long lasting ayahuasca trip? dont know if you know this one but its quite a good visualisation of what can happen... so i heard :

and here :

still just feeble attempts though...