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hmmm....

good points....if you examine the track record, going all the way back to Reagan (the drooling old B-movie actor), these 'modern' Republicans have a history of doing exactly what GOD was saying, which is to install a puppet leader, usually chosen from the indigenous rebel populace, beef him up with arms and money (american arms and money. To my knowledge, no american was ever asked) until he gets too big, then, usually he would tell Washington to 'fuck off', upon which the cycle began...they did this with Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, they did it with Saddam Hussien...and, probably, they did it with Bin Laden.

The way this all happens is that the CIA generally foments revolution in areas where the govt doesnt toe the line w/ Washington, usually by infiltrating. How do they infiltrate? By throwing money around, something usually in short supply among rebels worldwide.

Saddam was the cia answer to the Iran threat in the 80's....many of you youngsters will go, 'Iran threat'????

In the late 70's there was a boogeyman named Ayatollah Khomeini, and he was the leader of Iran. He took power in Iran, when 'our'
boy, the Shah of Iran, was ran out of town. (reava pahlavi, I believe his name was, and yes, we had a hand in his rise to power as well)....we needed a counterweight, and we got that by bulking up a local bully named Saddam.

The story in Panama?

Same thing, we needed someone near nicaragua, they were rebelling, it was a hot spot with rebel activity, blahblahblahblah

(late 80's)

Now, we segue to the late part of the decade, and russia is invading afghanistan. Since the cia knew russia was having a lot of internal problems, they reverted, as always, to their universal strategy;

Enter Bin Laden....

Anyone who doesn't believe the cia/govt uses the very drugs they whine so much about to fuel wars is a fool.

Another, darker aspect to what the govt does here is the widespread distribution of dominator drugs to help generate the funds necessary
by 'living off the fat of the land', so to speak....in other words, in
Nicaragua it was cocaine, and military transports...in Afghanistan, its poppys.

An ancient chinese war tactician named sun-tzu posited that it is sound military strategy to divest the land of its assets in order to conquer the populace. If I dont have to carry supplies with me, I'm faster and fresher. Extend this concept in your own mind.

This is a far-reaching strategy in which the geographic region itself supplies the means for the generation of revenue.

We don't have to send money 'over there' ....we let them grow the money, then we swoop down, shoot 8 afghanis at a remote airstrip
and seize a cool hundred mil or so in poppy-derivative. Now the plane goes to govt connex, but the dominator poison still hits the streets just the same as if a 'real' criminal had put it there.


The real problem within this whole subject is actually a fairly simple one once the idea occurs;

We've been masterfully maneuvered into a defensive position concerning our drug use, AND, we've allowed them to feel as if they're in the right, morally.

Where do they derive these righteous stirrings?

Whenever ANY social class gets stepped on enough, eventually, they will begin resisting. This happened in India, this has happened in America.....

Gandhi has already shown ALL OF US HOW TO WIN THIS WAR.

Why wont we listen?
 
spot on !

I might not like the things that you say , but i will fight to the death for you to have the right to say them

this and far more voltaire quotes can be found on:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 09645.html

'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.'

Many of them illustrate the timelessness of regimes-gone-bad and power-abuse and dangers of ignorance. Most of these are doomy/gloomy.. but there is one that made me laugh :) :

'Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law'
 
Hey Dantediv86 , Ok if thats your definition of stinky bastard i agree . Personaly i`m not a gandhi fan , he went to south africa to protest about the treatment of Indians there but didnt say anything about the treatment of the black people . I am a non violence fan though and think if we all stand up and be counted THEY will just fade away and die .

Hey Spice , i`m realy glad you didnt get pissed of about my blast from the past , you sound as if you are about my age if you can remember all that schah stuff . I remember vietnam , watched it every day in TV when i was a kid . You are the only american i have ever talked to that has had his eyes open in his life and not just believed all that hollywood shit . COOL MAN !!! Have you read "The politics of heroin" by an american profesor called Alfred W. McCoy ? Its all about the way the american political mafia uses the CIA to smuggle drugs and sell them in America and then use the money to finance things that congress never would ? For instance the story of Air America smugling heroin from the golden triangle ??? Did you know about the fact that the CIA was trying to overthrow the government in Cambodia by funding the rebels , and just as they were about to win Pol Pot took advantage off the situation and took over = 2000000 million people dead ? Blah blah blah never ending lies , cheating and shit .

Nobodys listening because they are fat and get enough drugs and have Osama bin ladin to blame for their problems . Put down with the same old tricks that have been used since roman times and before like opium for the masses , devide and rule , bread and games , if you cant beat them join them.... and change them from inside .

Just saw Bashir Assad in a BBC interview , he seems a nice sensible guy and had a few intelligent things to say . The world is changing , another country in south america has just droped its right wing government . Leaders of countrys all around the world are starting to stand up to the bush mafia , hopefully this is the start of the end of bushes "Old America" ( remember his bullshit about "Old Europe" ) and the birth of The new America like it always wanted to be . The free and friendly America . I just heard that the war in Iraq costs 300,000,000$ a DAY . Think about the 10 - 20% tax that bush gets from that every day and the 10 -20% profit that his friends companys make selling the 300,000,000$ worth of guns and bombs each day and then think about who is paying that sum ??? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE with their taxes . Imagine what could be done in america with that money , Build 3 realy good hospitals a DAY , or intoduce a health service , or a social security system = wipe out poverty and the reason for most crime in america . They could even repair new orleans and the 300,000 poor black people could go home and make it a nice jazzy city again .

Phalaris , i was quite close though with my atempt at a quote in spite of my permanent short term memory loss , what about this one :-

"A man is as young as the woman he feels" !!!!
 
A man is as young as the woman he feels

hmm, that one makes me horny. Bah, its way too early to get horny ;)
 
Perv... :\
 
Dantediv86 , i dont think that phalaris is a perv??? i think he`s healthy...
 
What is so perverting about sexuality?
Isn't this also one of natures' most precious gifts? :roll:

(djeeeeez, I'm using the roll eyes a lot lately :bear:)



But interesting discussion guys, I unfortunately have to little knowledge about the subject, but I'm glad a lot of people are putting the pieces back together, because I'm getting really fucking tired of the way things are going around the world.
Consciousness is growing and with that more and more people are fed up with being treated like dumb ignorant fucks, while the governments wash their hands in blood.

Fuck that, we are much more worth then that!

Thanks for the enlightening posts ;)
 
And i`m realy pleased that people are starting to realise what is going on , i was starting to think that there were only a few of us with our eyes , minds and hearts open . That we had reached a mentaly castrated , who gives a shit as long as we can get totaly blasted generation . I was realy suprised that we are all so alone on this thread , i thought that more people than just us few would join in and maybe the revolution would start here . As Phalaris said the one tells the other and then another and eventualy it snowballs back to one happy planet/humans organismus .

" Talkin about a revolution , well you know we all want to change the world .... " For those that dont work in a record shop that is from Saint John Lennon .
 
Now would you think???? i'm not that stupid!!! (about the perv thing , i'm just playing)
for the rest
Amen....
 
Now you watch your language young troll :P :P :P
 
Group-hug !!


;)

..dante, don't worry, I took care of my hornyness.
 
Group HUG!!! i don't care why should you worry about me if you are horny???
WHO am i to ask you not to be horny? you bee what you feel to be then it's my business to deal with it
i mean youre horny your body wants to show love, in a way, to the outside world so as long as it's not violent i will deal with it :)
 
HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH IT !!!! Dont tell me ....please !!! And did you wash your hands before posting your last post , or must i go and have a bath again ????
 
haha! you and your drugs...

EDIT: you know what i meant

besides even if i did "deal" with it (thing that i rather doubt since my tastes are concentrated on one girl at the moment) what difference would it make to you or anybody? and what if....
i didn't wash my hands...
would that keep you away from YOUR keyboard (and finally give us mortals some peace on this forum? :P) ? i mean this is my personal computer afterall and no one else touches it (too bad for those nosey bastards that actually do!!)
 
I WAS TALKING ABOUT PHALARIS DEALING WITH HIS HORNYNESS !!!!

SO RE_EDIT YOUR POST FOR THE THIRD TIME !!!!!
 
Me 3 !!!!
 
Hahahaha, LOL

Those funny systems that are supposed to guide us through this physical experience we call life :lol:
 
GOD next time specify who you are referring to....please
no it wasn't a freudian on any of you i was convinced he was talking to me
(now that's some ego i have...quite invasive and manicprotagonist too)
gee
i'm actually embarassed and exhilarated at the same time
 
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