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Want to know the truth??????

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'Zeitgeist, The Movie' and 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' were created as Not-for-Profit expressions to communicate what is highly important about our social understandings, which most humans are generally not aware of.

The Zeitgeist: Addendum:
Attempts to locate the root causes of this pervasive social corruption, while offering a solution. This solution is not based on politics, laws or any other "establishment" notions of human affairs, but rather on a modern, non-superstitious based understanding of "what we are" and how we align with nature, to which we are a part.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 695921912#


Zeitgeist: The movie
What does Christianity, 911 and The Federal Reserve all have in common?
This is a documentary about historical and modern conspiracies, including the origins of Christianity, the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and the banking system.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 743189197#

Link for these videos:
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Link for Global site:
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/

(This is what they have said on the webstie and video)
Duplication of these education film is granted and encouraged for non-resale / educational purposes only. Not-For-Profit Public Screenings are also encouraged and requires no permission from us.

To throw that Pyramid scheme of bussiness back at itself, by using a pyramid system, I've made a pledge to myself and duplicated these videos 500 times because everybody deserves to know the truth.


About
The Zeitgeist Movement is not a political movement. It does not recognise nations, governments, races, religions, creeds or class. Our understandings conclude that these are false, outdated distinctions which are far from positive factors for true collective human growth and potential. Their basis is in power division and stratification, not unity and equality, which is our goal. While it is important to understand that everything in life is a natural progression, we must also acknowledge the reality that the human species has the ability to drastically slow and paralyze progress, through social structures which are out of date, dogmatic, and hence out of line with nature itself. The world you see today, full of war, corruption, elitism, pollution, poverty, epidemic disease, human rights abuses, inequality and crime is the result of this paralysis. This movement is about awareness, in avocation of a fluid evolutionary progress, both personal, social, technological and spiritual. It recognises that the human species is on a natural path for unification, derived from a communal acknowledgement of fundamental and near empirical understandings of how nature works and how we as humans fit into/are a part of this universal unfolding we call life. While this path does exist, it is unfortunately hindered and not recognized by the great majority of humans, who continue to perpetuate outdated and hence degenerative modes of conduct and association. It is this intellectual irrelevancy which the Zeitgeist Movement hopes to overcome through education and social action.
The goal is to revise our world society in accord with present day knowledge on all levels, not only creating awareness of social and technological possibilities many have been conditioned to think impossible or against "human nature", but also to provide a means to overcome those elements in society which perpetuate these outdated systems.
An important association, upon which many of the ideas of this movement are derived come from an organisation called " The Venus Project" directed by social engineer and industrial designer, Jacque Fresco. He has worked nearly his entire life to create the tools needed to assist a design of the world which could eventually eradicate war, poverty, crime, social stratification and corruption. His notions are not radical or complex. They do not impose a subjective interpretation in their formation. In this model, society is created as a mirror of nature, with the variables predefined, inherently.
The movement itself is not a centralised construct.

They're NOT here to lead, but to organise and educate.
 
This ain't the truth pal, sorry.
There are a lot of mistakes in there, but maybe they put them in on purpose for us to research. :P
 
"the" truth is a vague and non quantifiable term which is very misleading.

Please do not use caps, we can read it just as well in lowercase
 
at least come with something up to date, this stuff is old
 
I disagree
Zeitgeist addendum is a movie pointing towards (some of) the most important things there are to know, it's right on point.
Some things imo should have been more detailed, some things that are part of this big picture are left out.
But it's the most on point film that I've seen (not forgetting to mention there's other movies that treat important pieces of the puzzle that are not explained enough in detail or not emphasized enough in this film or simply left out altogether) as of yet.
Everyone should see this film and I mean everyone.
But yeah, in this community it's old information and material I suppose.
But then again, I think this film may be worth another watch if you've only seen it once.
 
Of course, Addendum is better because they explain the monetary system some more and come up with an alternative (although this alternative is too sketchy for me).
But the first Zeitgeist movie didn't do it for me.
I mean, at first I was excited, but after some reading and thinking it over it did a lot less sense than it probably wanted to make.
 
Yeah the Venus project is far out, I agree
Besides it's too early
Fresco may take it seriously, though I would'nt think Zeitgeist actually does, I'd think it's there more so to point out the state of technology we are actually in and that with this technology a different world can be created in wich things would be very different and where there would actually be the possibility of a high standard of living for everyone, provided we'd cooperate instead of compete. Of course with his one must take into consideration the mechanism of scarcity and profit being flipped over completely.
Honestly, I think if this would really happen the abundance would be beyond mosts imagination as of now, I really think we'd all be blown away and the results would rise far above anyones expectations.
 
The same story as i have told in another thread, this sorts of movie at least try to make people think and ask question. Imagine you are the one who try's to show the world what is happening, how hard would it be to make even a documentary like Zeitgeist, without being far from the truth.... In the end you can show the world only what you thought, which then also can be a very mis interpretation of yourself. But at least they tried, and i am sure the documentary have waked up a lot of people, especially because it was very popular on the Internet and still is being watched as this thread proof's.
 
For sure its outdated, the critics were all over this film and a lot of discusion stuff and parts have been debunked. like some of u do have too

I rather recommend kymatica, or "society get off your knees by Icke" instead.

Kymatica

Society get off your knees
 
Jeniger a dit:
For sure its outdated, the critics were all over this film and a lot of discusion stuff and parts have been debunked. like some of u do have too

I rather recommend kymatica, or "society get off your knees by Icke" instead.

Kymatica

Society get off your knees

Kymatica was a unique one, i liked it! :) I don't know for sure if i have seen that icke movie. But the idea, that icke creates a enemy. But when we take look at this enemy. Then we see a large group of man, who are in fact the biggest fools there are on earth. They are so extreme unaware and disconnected from emotion and there inner self that it is because of this they can become to cruel without feelings guilty or remorse, they feel so lost and detached from them self's that there emotions can't tell things in the way they really are. Living without emotions is like living as a blind man.

I can imagine me being such a sick bastard. I mean it is easy to become blind for certain things that manifest in reality. Ones you believe actually something, then it to easy to become blind for the opposite of that what you believe. Most of the time we don't even notice it. But if someone who has a great day and lots of succes in life needs to understand someone who is a bit the opposite, for example a workless, poor and depressed guy. He would completly unable to even get glimps of the guy who is depressed. And the guy who is depressed, is not able to understand the more succesvol, happy guy.

So they battle and battle, left against right and up against below. It's vicious circle that can only be broken if ones is self aware enough to always be aware of the dualistic nature of our universe. Ones you get that concept, it's pretty interesting to see, how 2 opposites become one as a whole. I am sure if we all where aware of this dualism, then we could see that a battle against the opposite would be useless. Then we would all start to see a bit deeper in to debts of our universe.
 
This film only came to my attention over the last month. So it is still finding it's way around the world.

I'm never one to say that anyone is wrong at what they think, cause it is their own truth, their own knowledge, where they're at in their current lifes.
Posting this up may have been old news for some, but I'm sure there are some that are unaware.
I, myself would love a world that can be better than what we have.
I really think that something bad has to happen to the world for change to happen, for man kind to come together and become one.
Some people are set in their comfort zone, disliking change because it is the unknownen.

The unknowen can be a gift, otherwise what's the point in living.

If you are questioning this film, that's good...
Questioning gives answers, which helps us search for the truth.
Your view is much appreciated because it brings awareness of what we're talking about.

Peace my brothers and sisters (you are my brothers and sisters).
I want nothing but the best and to see all of you happy.
 
If you are questioning this film, that's good...
Questioning gives answers, which helps us search for the truth.
Your view is much appreciated because it brings awareness of what we're talking about.
Exactly

I like the notion that we have to stop looking outside, or search where/who the blame is and that the world we percieve/exist today is a reflection of the rejection to look at negative sides of ourselves manifesting in our collective consiousness.. People like to reject bad thoughts about themselves and as an outlet they will see it in other persons.
Understanding this, the second step then becomes creating your own reality and take full responsebility,for this u have to know practical solutions and the knowledge on how our reality is manipulated. Wich i think icke does an great job in his 8 hour video. :D
 
Wich i think icke does an great job in his 8 hour video.

Cheers my friend I will be watching this . :D
Looking forward to it.
peace
 
Understanding this, the second step then becomes creating your own reality and take full responsebility,for this u have to know practical solutions and the knowledge on how our reality is manipulated. Wich i think icke does an great job in his 8 hour video. Very Happy

In fact icke is pretty good, and it obviciously this guy try's what ever he can. But he says also a view things that doesn't fit in my reality, so that's why i almost have forgetten him. To be honest, David Icke was the one who made me think! A friend of my gave me his book, Children of the matrix. One thing is for sure, after i read that book, my worldview spontaneously began to change. Which was not easy to handle, letting of old behavior and learning new one. I mean you can not solve certain problems if you are not aware of them, so all of us should start to look from the inside out and not outside in.

I like the notion that we have to stop looking outside, or search where/who the blame is and that the world we percieve/exist today is a reflection of the rejection to look at negative sides of ourselves manifesting in our collective consiousness.. People like to reject bad thoughts about themselves and as an outlet they will see it in other persons.

They rejecting them, but they also condemn them selfs for doing negative things. They punish them self's instead of hugging that part that hearts so much. Most people just forget, that we all come fort out of duality, so rejecting negativity is ignoring a part of yourself from which you can't run away and finally if you don't give up or become in peace with yourself, it will bring you down just as long till you accept it as a part of you. It screames for attention!
 
It doesn't take an 8 hour video or convoluted reasoning to see what is wrong with the world today.....it's really simple, and everyone makes it out to be a far bigger mystery than it is.

There are a combination of factors, which can be grasped quite simply by anyone, but first, FIRST, you have to *want* to see the truth. Without the desire to see the truth, no one can ever show it to you.

a) The systematic worship of the dollar

b) overpopulation

c) intertwining of evangelical politics and evangelical religion

d) Having to rely on outside sources for fuel and electricity (fuel and electricity are both commercial products of the industrial era, which is where we took a wrong turn as a species)




Don't be so quick to discard 'd'.


It is, perhaps, the Gordian knot which holds the entire junkheap together.


It is certainly the secret to the 'success', if you want to call it that ( I don't )
of the capitalistic system.

The 'fix' is in awareness. No one need 'do' anything yet, the awareness must reach a 'critical mass' and then, things will correct themselves.

See how it happened in Russia when the Soviet Union fell 20 years ago ?
 
The 'fix' is in awareness. No one need 'do' anything yet, the awareness must reach a 'critical mass' and then, things will correct themselves.

I fully agree.
 
No one is saying u need to watch davids icke video, since this is a thread about documentary its the right place to give suggestions


The 'fix' is in awareness. No one need 'do' anything yet, the awareness must reach a 'critical mass' and then, things will correct themselves.


I fully agree.

I don't, i think this thinking is dangerous, but i probably understood it the wrong way

Isnt this exactly the point, it easy to look over aspects of yourself when u first expect the rest to change..

To my understanding its the opposite of what kymatica is trying to say..

Just take respsonsebility for every facet of your own capibility, don't look to others for excuses.. more than that an small individual cannot do..
 
That's one way of looking at it.

The point is, everyone has a choice to make in this area; that of being a passive 'rider' or an active 'driver'......


becoming 'aware' isn't necessarily the same thing as 'thinking'


and, again, I don't think any 'theory' should take 8 hours to explain.

It isn't about looking to others to blame, but at some point you may find that life isn't always about being able to plunge ones head into the sand and ignore aspects of reality that are ugly and distasteful. Sometimes you have to seek to understand it, whether or not you intend action.

If you think that this kind of thinking is 'dangerous', then, I would have to say that 'you' are 'dangerous'.


:idea:
 
If you want to watch a serious movie, watch Money as Dept...zeitgeist is one of the most overrated movies ever....I will not bare the pain of watching the second one. The worst thing conspiracists do is dulling the people by taking away the seriousness of the important issues ("oooh I already heard that *yawn*")

by the way: I don't disagree with you spice but there are other things to do than watching conspiracy videos about 'truth'
 
restin a dit:
but there are other things to do than watching conspiracy videos about 'truth'


that's what I was telling him.

An 8 hour video to explain a theory of what is happenning in the world?

I explained it in about 30 seconds a few posts back on this thread.
 
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