Storage of ayahuasca brew

[dziagbatek]

Hi everybody,
I am going to brew ayahuasca, using Banisteriopsis caapi and Psychotria viridis. Could you please advise me, how long can I store leftover brew and what is the best way to do this?

Thanks for your help

 

[pistolone]

Hi,
I am also interested.
But I have some B.caapi and some MHRB.
I would like to know the doses, duration and any advice on how to make the preparation process
Thanks in advance

 

[IJesusChrist]

DMT is stable in its free base form for years.

If you have made an aqueous solution with a mild pH ( 3<ph<9 ) it should be very stable for an extended period. You could also bring the pH to 7 if you wanted to, either by adding conjugate pH or by diluting a lot.

If you put this brew in the freezer in capped container I would assume ~year long retention, if not more.

As for the MAOi, I am not sure at all, but looking at its structure I would assume it also has a long shelf life, perhaps indefinite if not exposed to constant air and kept in cold conditions.

AKA: Put it in an appropriate container, seal it, put it in the freezer, "investigate" in a year

 

[pistolone]

Thanks
I would like to know some more informations:
doses of B. Caapi & MImosa?
How long the two infusions must boil?
How long does the effect last?

 

[IJesusChrist]

that is all readily available on google or erowid.

 

[pistolone]

I'm sorry for my stupid questions !!!
I thought maybe someone on this forum could give me some advice more useful than Google or erowid and some personal experiences.
I found different methods of preparation and different opinions on dosages on Erowid and Google.
English is not my mother language and for me reading many materials in english requires a lot of energy.
I thought that in a forum, I could read different opinions in comparison and that I could save some time ...
Next time I will ask to google ...
Thanks a lot for your very very very useful informations!!!

 

[IJesusChrist]

I've tried ayahuasca two times. The first time did not work.

The second time was fairly weak.

I suggest that you boil the liquid for over 10 hours.

The size is usually around (for a first time)
Viridis: can vary from 4 to 20 grams for a normal dose. (Try around 6-8 first)
B. Caapi doesn't matter alot - but somewhere above 8 grams.

If you use mimosa hostilis instead of viridis you will use around 2-4 grams of solid bark.

These figures may make a very mild trip - I'm playing on the safe side.

 

[ophiuchus]

not to be mean, but these questions have been asked (and answered) hundreds of times on this site. some advice for you if erowid and google aren't specific enough for you: look through the archives on this website. it may take a little bit of searching, but i would think it would be quicker, much easier, and more fruitful than searching through everything on the web. or 1+, do a google search with "psychonaut" as one of your search words. ex: psychonaut cannabis cultivation or psychonaut dmt dose or many other variations. hope that helps, i know the information you're looking for is here...

 

[Blacksnaik]

For a good true AYA experience you must go vine heavy. At least 250 Grams Cielo Caapi. AT least 50 grams Psychotria V (Hawaii Psychotria is what you want) Peruvian strains sometimes give a weak result. Boil 4 times and reduce. Make sure you give it a good boil. Some sites say to heat just below boiling. This is not correct! It must boil. My best experience was 350 grams Caapi, 50 grams Mimosa,15 grams Acacia Confusa and 10 grams Guayusa. Also if you have the traditional music with you AYA you will have a more meaningful experience IMO. With the music was the first time I had these little entities performing work on my body. Don't be afraid if you can help it. It will be tough but just let go and all will be good.

Peace

 

[ophiuchus]

what do you consider "traditional music"? are there any examples you could provide? im interested

 

[Blacksnaik]

what do you consider "traditional music"? are there any examples you could provide? im interested

The songs are called Icaros. Just go to youtube and search they have many with videos as well. On my 3rd try of AYA I had one of the videos playing and thats when I realised there was something to using this music vs. other trance music. Other music has an effect but nothing like whenI use Icaros. Nothing Close!

Here is a download for Luis Panduro Vasquez - Ayahuasca songs from the Peruvian Amazon

Just play it in order once you start your Aya ritual.

http://rghost.net/1007553 This is a full CD

Also check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US_P5nTj ... re=related (this one came on my trance music playlist during my 3rd trip and thats when I knew there was something to it. Up to that point I had not used an Icaro in my playlist. Now that's all I use)

In my ritual I cleanse the location with white sage smoke or frankincense. I bring all the plants I can into the sacred space I create and put a pallet in front of them to lay on once the effects start. Get the room as dark as possible. Closed eye visuals are not the same as when eyes are open so with a dark room you allow the CEVs to be available with eyes open. I bless the plants and AYA with tobacco smoke and ask for a positive connection,state a clear intention and turn on my music. Down a shot glass of strong AYA. I began with a little light from a candle, but blow that out after communicating with the plants has begun. You will notice the plants start to animate and reach out towards you. This scared the absolute hell out of me the first time, but once I relaxed it was cool. I go to the plants and touch a branch or flower. You will notice the plant will embrace your finger. Really! You can feel it. Scary! Just let go and recieve the info. My first time the Flower I touched sent information through my finger tip. Information concerning all the hate and sorrow that we as humas lust for in every thing we do from music to TV. I almost cried because I could feel the sorrow of the world. Then the plant sent info on how love must be the focal point of everything and once I make that happen my life will have real meaning. The meaning of life in Love...

Ok, Blow the candle out, lay on the pallet in front of the plants and recieve the Healing/teaching. It's scary and very alien,but positive for sure!

Positive travels,

Peace

 

[ararat]

sounds amazing. looking forward to the first time aya calls me, if it ever does

 

[ophiuchus]

thanks for sharing