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Self transforming machine elves??

Psychedelic_Sprinkle

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The second time i tried salvia, it was pretty ridiculous lol. I took 2 big hits outta my bong, held them in as long as a i could, and my boyfriend was sitting facing me. As i blew out my smoke, i started to trip. My boyfriend was smiling at me and his ears grew huge and he his smile started to look kinda malicious and scary and he turned into an elf..then i felt like i was on a merry-go-round, everything was spinning and changing color. Then i looked behind my boyfriend and i realized everything in our room had turned into little weird machines. At the time we were listening to the Beatles, but the music changed completely from the Beatles into people speaking some language i couldnt understand. Then it got really weird..I had the sensation that i was laying down on my stomach, and there were all these crazy little tiny elves around me, throwing ropes over my body and legs, tying me down. They had my tounge rolled out and they were jumping up and down on it..i thought to myself "Not again, dont let them take me again"...it was fucking crazy! It was so familiar, like i had been in this exact situation with these elves before. Then i started to come out of it, after what seemed like years, and i started flipping out and trying to rip these ropes off of me, which by this time were already gone. It was absoloutely nuts. Has anyone else had a salvia experience, or any kind of experience, with these crazy little machine elves?
 
I think if one tries one could imagine a woman with 3 tits calpping . I tried for years on LSD any eventualy met her . Once .

= Dont read to much shit , just get it down your neck and see what happens . Having . or trying to have other peoples trips can fuck a persons head up . Every trip should be diferent , if it isnt its because of self programing .
 
i had this trip before i started getting really interested in psychedelics, and it was before i had ever read anything about the "elves", so i dont know what the deal was...what really freaked me out about it was the whole being restrained part, and my tongue being rolled out lol...
 
Well, your report explained exactly the reason, why i don't like salvia ;)
 
the second part of your trip sounds like the first part of Gulliver's Travels, where he is bound up by lilliputians.
 
Psychedelic_Sprinkle a dit:
It was absoloutely nuts. Has anyone else had a salvia experience, or any kind of experience, with these crazy little machine elves?
Check out the trip reports at salvia.net: http://salvia.net/en/experiences.htm
Indeed, most experiences are absolutely nuts...
 
Kathleen Harrison has got a nice lecture about the use of salvia, she explains that the traditional method was by chewing the leaves, the traditional people there who tried to smoke our western salvia, said they didnt know what they saw, but it was not the lady of salvia, and it was really not the way it supposed to be taken.

-video kathleen Harrison-

Afther my experience of smoking savia i decided to never try it again, but maybe i'll give a try to chew the leafs.

Is there someone who had a nice experience chewing the leafs here?
 
Jeniger a dit:
Kathleen Harrison has got a nice lecture about the use of salvia, she explains that the traditional method was by chewing the leaves, the traditional people there who tried to smoke our western salvia, said they didnt know what they saw, but it was not the lady of salvia, and it was really not the way it supposed to be taken.

-video kathleen Harrison-

Afther my experience of smoking savia i decided to never try it again, but maybe i'll give a try to chew the leafs.

Is there someone who had a nice experience chewing the leafs here?

Well in that case, i maybe would give it a try. But then i will probably need some good potent fresh salvia leaves.
 
how about keeping an salvia extract ( for example 10x) in your mouth?
 
yeah, everytime i've done it and tripped, it was soo ridiculously intense, it was like experiencing death. so i think i want to buy some seeds and grow some salvia plants, then eat the fresh leaves. i was reading some of the salvia trips on the "experiences" page, and theres one account titled "life as a pop-up book", or something like that. it really freaked me out when i read it because it describes the exact same thing that happened to me the first time i tripped on salvia...very creepy :?
 
and i watched the kathleen harrison lecture..pretty awesome :D
 
skoeip a dit:
how about keeping an salvia extract ( for example 10x) in your mouth?

This is something i am wondering myself too, maybe it's just a matter of trying it yourself since opinions on the web about this vary a lot from both positive and negative(no) experience.
 
If one remain in this universe one didnt have a real hit one had a serious underdose . It always blows one away .
 
how about keeping an salvia extract ( for example 10x) in your mouth?
If I remember right, this is not possible.
 
skoeip a dit:
how about keeping an salvia extract ( for example 10x) in your mouth?

I did that ones, i putted 10x salvia in some chewing gum, and then chewed for almost 2 hours. Al right, i could definably feel the salvia vibe, but nothing did happen.
 
I've got a gram of salvia 10x sitting around so will try it soon, perhaps tomorrow evening. and will of course keep you all updated with the results.
 
just washd my mouth en put the salvia under my tongue:) so in about half an hour i will know if this method works:)
 
well it works! not too visual, bit of CEV's but a good tool for thinking. definitely a ++. will tell more later, gonna enjoy this a bit more.

Love you all!
 
Haha, fun. Didn't realize it worked. I'd rather have a quid though rather than a ton of ground up leaves floating around my mouth.

Extracts are for smoking in my opinon.
 
Well, I washed my mouth with Listerine, and took the salvia in my mouth, and after about 5 minutes i had an alert, the tingly feeling on my back. in about 15 minutes I could really distinguish the effects, a bit like smoked salvia in feeling but much weaker and much softer, even pleasant. at the 30 minute point I reached a peak that lasted for about 45 min after which the effects were gone in about 20 min. almost no visuals, a few closed eye imagery. and a good thought flow. music (minilogue) was pleasant to listen to in contrast to smoked salvia where I cant listen to music.

so salvia 10x definitely has an effect orally, but really effective? no not really, I guess 10 grams of leaves in a quid would be more effective because they would be easier to hold under your tongue, the small bits of the extract were floating in my mouth in the exes saliva. never tried a quid but I will in the future.
 
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