Salvia - common experiences? + trip report

[Thinker]

I often hear that its impossible to predict what a salvia trip will be like and that there are few, if any, common experiences.

My last salvia experience was very interesting and seemed to have a theme or trend which I have noticed in other reports, I was wondering if others have noticed it too...

In my experience it starts with a feeling of guilt, like you have disappointed someone/something. Then moves onto feelings of unworthiness and finally an enlightening experience followed by Joy. Oh and a dislike of clothes :smile:

For example my last experience (smoking 3 bowls, one every 5 mins) started off with me feeling quite sad that by smoking I had disappointed the two beings whos job it was to run along side me carrying my laptop and another strangely familiar being that was behind me somewhere. After those felling subsided a little the arm of my sofa turned into a giant yellow snake of enlightenment, on which one of my friends and an author that I respect were riding. However I was unworthy to ride, I felt like it was becasue I was fake which was in some way related to the clothes I was wearing, at which point because I was also feeling very uncomfortable I stripped. After taking off my clothes I decided to watch some music videos on youtube that I had lined up before smoking. Whilst watching I realized that we were all part of Gods imagination and that my consciousness was just inhabiting this body, using it to experience the world. As a result I was able to move into other beings and objects to experience through them. So I moved into the music video I was watching becoming a wave of laser light and somehow actually feeling my as if my sense of awareness was in the light instead of in my head/heart area, after that I became a boy, also in the video, and found I could physically feel everything that he felt. Finally whilst watching another video (again transporting my mind) I made friends with some spirit/fairys that were also inhabiting this particular video world, which was awesome... until the video ended! I was quite upset as I thought they had died but to my great joy I noticed they had left the screen and were now on my keyboard jumping around and making it very inconvenient to type, as I was trying to record what was going on. The rest of the trip was spent trying to type what had happened.

So what does everyone think? Completely random or common themes?

 

[Pariah]

It's completely different to my experiences with salvia, but my experiences are starting to have there own theme - I seem to have very little philosophical / spiritual feelings with salvia - I always seem to spend most of the trip wondering whether i'm enjoying the feeling or not and trying to figure out where I am, which way is up, then my conclusions being proven wrong when I do "wake up."

I seem to have a detachment from the experience after salvia, whereas with LSA's i'll usually feel the trip was profound and philosphically helpful. Salvia for me is more a really strange experience than anything else.

 

[Adder]

I see some things similar to my own experiences. The dislike of clothing is one but I think it's due to the extreme sensitivity to physical stimuli. The small pinches and rubbing of clothes are amplified. I find it much better when I wear as few clothes as possible. Still being a bit cool lately that makes it hard to use Salvia at the moment.

Another is the guilt feelings. For me it always seems to center around the difference I sense in the here and now and the Salvia realm. A recurring theme for me is a veil and another world on the other side. The Salvia world is always bright and sparkling, giving off a feeling of cleanliness while this one or better yet, the one that stays when the Salvia wears off seems dark and dingy/dirty. I feel like someone in the other world would be horrified to see me hanging on to this world. One example that had me giggling my head off once the Salvia wore off was I was afraid that someone in the Salvia realm might see me half here and half there and say, "Eww, look what you stepped in". I always seem to have this intense desire for the Salvia to wear off and this realm to disappear like a bad trip and I remain in that clean and sparkling one to live a new life or more precisely to continue the life I sense I have there.

 

[jj]

I note some similarities.

First, with respect to clothes, Salvia just plain makes my skin tingle, and clothes often become objectionable for that reason.

Second, I have sometimes sensed a hollowness to my existence, a suction of sorts. There can be guilt, loneliness, regret, even accusations, as though conscience or even Salvia is screaming at me. However, when I get inside of it with a sort of acceptance, just letting it be, as it is, and dropping my defences, it changes. The void is filled, and I go to a better place. Much better.

With continuing practice, the negative stuff becomes easier to get through. It is recognized as a misperception issue. As Blake said, the eye, altering, alters all. I get to the good stuff faster.

Nevertheless, the abruptness with which Salvia brings us face to face with issues has put me off at times.

I definitely have my thoughts about how it relates to reality/God. As I see it, normal human experience is just a part of the whole picture. Normally, we're kind of closed off from the wholeness and don't know what we're missing, except for that vague sense that there must be more, which can manifest as curiosity about things like Salvia. Salvia opens us up, and the beginning of seeing what we are missing is that sense of incompleteness, deficiency. We can then either get paranoid and shut the door or open up and let the light fill us.

 

[st.bot.32]

I've definitely had the "guilt" or not worthy feeling as well, as if Salvia didn't want me when I was first taking a hit of salvia.

Also common to pretty much all my trips is the feeling of not being alone, or suddenly feeling that I had never been alone, and that people, beings etc are present with me. I also very often hear chanting on Salvia.

From then on my trips vary into several categories (sometimes combining two of these

1. The body on rails trip. Feeling like my body is locked into a groove or rut, only capable of moving along the path of the groove. Also being touched by entities, one time I felt as if an entity touched my shoulder and pushed me against the wall for the duration of the trip.

2. Transformation. Feeling like I have become something else, animal or creature. Once I found myself on the floor on all fours barking like a dog. I have also felt myself become imaginary forest creatures, or even become my surroundings (I couldn't open my backpack, because I felt I was the backpack, and was being opened when I pulled the zipper). Very much in line with your experience, Thinker.

3. Communicating with entities. Always non-verbal, once I saw a mexican-god shaped bird creature and my body was pulled towards it, it started chirping in time with the music that was playing and i started mimicking it's mouth movements. Other times I have felt sort of telepathic communication, or have seen invisible lines of energy connecting me with entities.

4. The spins. The trip where you close your eyes and everything starts rotating and swirling. I know I'm not the only one who has had a variation of this trip.

Ah Salvia. Such an amazing substance. I don't understand how such discoveries like this are completely ignored by neuroscience, makes no sense to me at all, there is so much to be learned.

 

[jj]

People talk so much about the personality of Salvia, like "she likes you" or "she doesn't like you." At first, it seemed like she didn't like me, but then I said wait a minute, I'm too smart to believe such rubbish about a plant liking me or not liking me. I started studying the situation.

I think that if you could get such a rapid lift-off from shrooms or acid, there'd be a lot more people having difficulties with them. With shrooms and acid, there's more time to adjust. Your thinking has time to change.

Using Salvia orally, tincture, for example, really slows down the lift-off and makes the transition much smoother.

What I learned was that any negativity experienced via Salvia was there in my life, hidden, all along. Salvia just showed me something I could learn from. That negativity was probably messing with me all the time in ways I never understood, and I never saw it, only the frustrating results.

You get to see something and learn from it and overcome it.

It's very easy to think this is just a game you play in your head. It can be, but it can be so much more.

 

[st.bot.32]

People talk so much about the personality of Salvia, like "she likes you" or "she doesn't like you." At first, it seemed like she didn't like me, but then I said wait a minute, I'm too smart to believe such rubbish about a plant liking me or not liking me. I started studying the situation.

Of course. I really think it is just the discomfort of the rapid onset of the trip, except you are already tripping on this discomfort

Salvia brings out strong feelings of being surrounded by a presence as well. Combine the above factors and you totally have the "salvia doesn't like me" trip.

 

[skrudge]

I had disappointed the two beings whos job it was to run along side me carrying my laptop and another strangely familiar being that was behind me somewhere.

For me it's this line, the fact of two entities being present , I experienced the same thing. Due to that I never really understood the female form people associate with it. The entities I encountered, one next to my bed and the other one in the room next to me (I felt the presence, the wall had no meaning anymore) were sexless. Not that I could see that, but I felt like they were.
And they were laughing at me, they didnt say a word, they just laughed.

 

[rumplestiltskin]

Salvia smoking always gives me similar experiences, all interlinked with each other, yet completely different in the aspects of the experience that I get to see.
There's usually a vegetable-seed-pod-like revolving door 'mechanism' within salvia space that i can enter into, with different lives in each compartment of the gateway doors, and shadowy 'other me' figures whose alternate realities i can temporarily interchange with.

In between the segments that divide these realities are voids of eternal emptiness, whereas the segments themselves contain different realities. It feels like a whole new model of the universe unfolds before you, where the beginning and end of the multiverse can be experienced as a void, and the multiple possible universes contained within the multiverse can all be travelled.

Feelings and patterns and moments from my early childhood pop up in the light stages of salvia, as do words that seem linked to me and my version of the universe. These seem to act as reassuring keyword links back to this universe even while experiencing other ones.

Unsure if I was the only person getting this repeated pattern of Salvia experiences, I googled and found there are quite a few people who describe strikingly similar trips.

My general feeling is that its like a very accurate way of travelling through dimensions. In a full dose, its like being given a real, powerful space-time travelling machine and with your first few goes, with no manual, you don't know the controls... so you can end up stuck as a table, or become a box of orange juice being taken out of a fridge (happened to me..) or in the head of a person walking down the street in 1632. But - and not saying that I have the controls just yet but I can see how one might - the more you orient yourself in Salvia space, as a shaman would have, the more you can interact with it rather than be confused by it...