Peyote dosage

[adetheproducer]

I have checked various forums/websites even spoke a little native american church but failed to get a good answer. I live in the UK so we have fully legal access to the cultivation of lophophora williamsii. This being saidI have purchase one and would like some advice, not for its cultivation I have plenty of help there, but what I want to know is the age old question - how much is enough?

I have read alot of people use buttons aprox 2gm dried weight usually 10 - 15 of them is consumed.
but how large does the living cactus have to be to produce a 2 gram dried button.
I have access to living cultivated not wild harvest plants aprox 5 cm diameter, how many of these size plants would do for a substantial hallucinogenic experience.

And before I get loads of responces with no real answers because its different for everyone, I would like to say I have extensive history of trips.
I have heavily used Psilocybe semilanceata with my last usage being about 12 ounces of fresh mushrooms brewed, condensed and split between 2 people.
I have used LSD numerous times including sunshine acid held back from early 70s.
I have used salvia divinorum numerous.
and even used cane toads for a while(do not try this it is not fun or good in anyway. I felt like a crackhead)

I am looking for the full ego loss type of spiritual experience that only tends to come with high doses of other hallucinogens.

any advice would be great
any answers to the questions would be greater

experienced navigators responces please

 

[MagicBrad]

Hi, I am a lophophora Williamsii cultivator and would suggest a minimum of 4-6 plants at 5cm each but for ego dissolving I require about 10. This is extremely expensive and wasteful I might add as the yotes are endangered now! I now order san pedro or peruvian torch and just add a couple of mature plants in 6cm in diameter. I would suggest atleast a 12inch cutting of tricheros cacti but I go with 24inch for a real ego dissolver/astral projection. Hope this helps, feel free to msg me.

MagicBrad.

 

[adetheproducer]

Thanks that does help a lot, I would have used san pedro or peruvian/bolivian torch but these are far too expensive the supplier I use can only order large cacti about 6 foot tall and cost about £200 but the peyotes are only about £6 each at 5cm and totally seed cultivated. Anyway the up and coming event would be to close for the peyote to produce enough mescaline apparently it takes about a full season of hardship(no water) so its out of the question anyway. Im thinking of a longer term project with my peyote. Im gonna grown it and collect the seeds get a bit of a farm on the go make sure I have plenty and harvest correctly so the roots are no killed no point ending a plants life for nothing more than a trip. For the up and coming even we have purchase some Amanita muscaria a far more environmentally friendly subject. We got 48 grams of dried mushrooms so that should do for two of us. We also got some salvia divinorum its suposed to be a very good kicker to send you real sideways. Got a few issues I need to work out and life is difficult at the moment so this should provide some mush needed clarity.

Cheers for the advice I was beggining to think this forum was full of people who just talk about doing these things and didn't really understand or experience it.

 

[MagicBrad]

That is really cheap for 5cm peyotes! Yeah go for it, peyote is def stronger than San Pedro. I like to combine pcsyblin with mescaline, i find it very enlightening. I always start my experiences with Icaro's that i learnt from my shaman to welcome my helping spirits in. Have had some good chats with all sorts of deities, teachers and power animals with this plan

 

[adetheproducer]

So have you ever tried Amanita muscaria, I have read a lot but never known anyone to have used it. I had an opertunity previously but was scared off by people saying its poisonous. Quite gutted as at that time I found a bunch of them growing the largest was like a dinner plate at least 12 inches across the cap with about 10 or 12 other large ones surrounding it and more sprouting out of the ground. I didnt pick them just left them growing. If the experience is any good with the dried one I have, I think I'll go looking again they grow everywhere around here.

 

[MagicBrad]

Amanita's are beautiful, the little shroomy spirit might kick your arse but it's easier enough the navigate the journey. In fact I'm consuming some Sat afternoon
I'll take about 30-45grams fresh and about 12inch of peruvian torch which I have brewed and blessed with a shamanic practice. All I would say with amanita's is go easy, I take mine in doses of 10-15grams at a time every half hour as so times I come up like a rocket and others not so much. I leave 6 hours of no food prior to the experience and have someone there to have my back if reality start splitting and I go a little heady! Avalon magic plants do a deal on the 'Hollandia' truffle at the mo, 30grams for £25. That'l be a journey for 1 maybe 2.

Magick.

 

[adetheproducer]

Well the amannita's where strange. I brewed 24 grams of dried mushrooms for about and hour on a low heat. Every thing looked right, it had the mushroom brew smell and taste but not a nearly slimey as liberty caps, easy to drink. I split the brew 4 ways thinking it would be safe first timer dosage and then waited. I got the wobbley fealing in my stomach as the brew was digested that came about 10-15 mins in and I noticed the tiles on the kitchen floor looked bright around the edges and very 3D but then nothing. To get things going I had some salvia, I had previously read it was kinda strong when on fly agaric so had only a small pipe. It kicked in as normal but did not leave my system and still felt prickley for like an hour after. I was a little dissapointed and felt burned by the supplier of the shrooms. My good friend seeing my bad vibe gave me 2 acid tabs. I chewed the first and about an hour later ate the second. This time I did not have the wait long. The tabs where stained heaviley with LSD you could see where they had made the ink run so very strong. The first kicked in visuals and warping of reality, then the second more strange movements just out of line of sight and then the ego loss. I felt great but still like something was going to kick in further. Then it did the fly agaric shifted gears on me, I think its was due to the meal i ate earlier delayed the digestion and absorbstion but at this point I could not care. Very intense very visual crazy geometrical patterns of thought until I could not function. I could not longer cope in the room with every one else and seeing my disstress another great friend plopped headphones on my head will I repeatedly mumbled Tool-Aenima. I felt Like Oscar Acosta in the bath in fear and loathing. He escorted me to the attick bedroom far from the madness of the living room, where upon I squirmed around the bed like an eel taken out of water for about and hour. Very scary at one point my thoughts had changed from that of a acid frenzie, where their is just too may thoughs and possibilities and into something i fail to find the words to describe. Like thinking in the mathmatical patterns found in fractals but In 3D. I had completely left my body and 100% forgot I was even a human let alone in a body laying on a bed in the dark listening to music. Time slowed to an almost standstill and one song felt like over an hour had passed. My first mention friend came to check on me serveral time as he fear I was too far gone but it was amazing. Once the music had stopped I did a joint and was thinking a little more stright and could cope with social activities like attemting to understand what people where saying and passing joints but not much more. By 4am my mind was done and catatonic despare was kicking in and being the only person awake I had no Distractions from it. By 6am I had to do something so plucked up the currage and open the front dorr and walk the 3 mile treck home. I did not sleep until midnight the following day but felt great all day. Very good experience and had the full trip I was looking for and though about a lot of things feel a lot better than I did before.

 

[MagicBrad]

Sounds wonderful man!