no more tobacco
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disciple189
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It definitely isn't that easy man. Not for some at least. I've been trying to quit for a while now too man. I always find that I don't get any cravings for a couple days after taking mushrooms. Also like someone else said replace it with weed. Roll a couple jays and keep em with you.
it's an addiction, man. It's a desire. It isn't just created in your mind. Just saying "I am not hooked, I can quit everytime" is the first answer if you ask a crack junkie :wink: I don't think that just replacing one addiction with another is cool. You can get addicted by weed as well. And your weed experience/fun with weed will get ruined quite soon.
GOD
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Someone who cant stop his adiction is a wimp . There is only one way to do it . Its to be honest and STOP . Instead of thinking "hey i feel shit , if i smoke one i will feel OK " . Instead , everytime one feels bad one tells oneself "Its because of the fags . I`m a junky and the only way to stop the pain is give up " .
I think the best way to quit smoking is to make a sub-concious negative association.
For example, When you take a ciggarette out the box, Think about some things, Such as...
Why do I smoke?
Why did I start?
How much does this cost a year?
How badly do I smell of smoke?
How much does this effect my health?
Then once you have an answer for the above and any other questions you yourself come up with, Keep them in mind every time you take a ciggarette out the box.
While thinking of the above,
Light the ciggarette and on your first draw. Ask your self the last question above, Then imagine yourself the smoke, Entering this soft wet pink cave (Your mouth), Travelling down a pinky / fleshy tunnel (Your throat) to your dirty black lungs that are supposed to be fleshy / pink.
Do this on a regular basis, Every cigg should be fine, Also on psychedelics you can address this problem alot more But, Do this negative association practice untill it sinks in and just the thought of a ciggarette should make you feel a little silly and slightly sick
Hope this helps 8)
For example, When you take a ciggarette out the box, Think about some things, Such as...
Why do I smoke?
Why did I start?
How much does this cost a year?
How badly do I smell of smoke?
How much does this effect my health?
Then once you have an answer for the above and any other questions you yourself come up with, Keep them in mind every time you take a ciggarette out the box.
While thinking of the above,
Light the ciggarette and on your first draw. Ask your self the last question above, Then imagine yourself the smoke, Entering this soft wet pink cave (Your mouth), Travelling down a pinky / fleshy tunnel (Your throat) to your dirty black lungs that are supposed to be fleshy / pink.
Do this on a regular basis, Every cigg should be fine, Also on psychedelics you can address this problem alot more But, Do this negative association practice untill it sinks in and just the thought of a ciggarette should make you feel a little silly and slightly sick
Hope this helps 8)
thank's for your posts!
it's my second day whitout smoking (I just smoke some weed when I was in high school...long time ago so it won't be a substitute)... i'm feeling a bit nervous but 30 minutes jogging keeps me quiet... as most of you have said, it's a mental process and the force of the decision is probably the only key
Hope it won't be more difficult next week...
wish you an happy and full of good experiences new year!
it's my second day whitout smoking (I just smoke some weed when I was in high school...long time ago so it won't be a substitute)... i'm feeling a bit nervous but 30 minutes jogging keeps me quiet... as most of you have said, it's a mental process and the force of the decision is probably the only key
Hope it won't be more difficult next week...
wish you an happy and full of good experiences new year!
Horrigan
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Nicotine addiction is mostly psychological. Why ? Cause tobacco is much more pleasurable than any other drug. It's even greater than opiates, less powerful, sure, but so much more enjoyable. It's like endorphines after physical effort, even the greatest heroin can't equal that kind of pleasure, even though it's less powerful.
Just don't forget that tobacco won't give you any pleasure if you smoke too much, and keep in mind that its effets never last for more than five minutes, and you should realise that stopping tobacco is a better idea, especially when you think about what it does to your lungs.
If in need, use this image as your wallpaper:
http://www.bodyworlds.com/download/pres ... 652981.jpg
Just don't forget that tobacco won't give you any pleasure if you smoke too much, and keep in mind that its effets never last for more than five minutes, and you should realise that stopping tobacco is a better idea, especially when you think about what it does to your lungs.
If in need, use this image as your wallpaper:
http://www.bodyworlds.com/download/pres ... 652981.jpg
I already quit, what I want to say is that it is an addiction and not some stupid placebo.
Being *only* psychological doesn't make it harmless. IMHO tobacco isn't pleasurable at all. Smoking a cigarette doesn't even give you a buzz, snus or snuff yes but these are uncomparable to opiates or the pleasure of weed... That's why tobacco is so cruel. The mind wants it.
GOD
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Its going to be very hard for the first few months and there is nothing you can do exept use negative association and be strong . Keep telling yourself i will feel much better when the adiction is gone .
Try hard and dont give up . You have two choices . Life long illness and stinking like a dustbin or much better health and a little discomfort now .
I was adicted to fags , alk , speed , opiates , barbiturates and medicines so i know what its like , and how hard it is and how good i felt after i stoped .
"the biological dispositions to became addict or depressed or anxious, etc are proved"
Can you please explain that ? Is there no free will ? Do genes decide what i am like ?
Try hard and dont give up . You have two choices . Life long illness and stinking like a dustbin or much better health and a little discomfort now .
I was adicted to fags , alk , speed , opiates , barbiturates and medicines so i know what its like , and how hard it is and how good i felt after i stoped .
"the biological dispositions to became addict or depressed or anxious, etc are proved"
Can you please explain that ? Is there no free will ? Do genes decide what i am like ?
the existence of free will is a very deep question and all sciences (humanities and hard) can take part in this question.
I just would say that neurosciences have strongly demonstrated that the activity in the brain of depressed people is different and can also be seen in the brains of people of the same familiy. The same is demonstrated for some kind of addiction. There is a genetical factor that influence the system of reward. (I can send you the sources)
About anxiety and stress, cortisol, an hormone produced in the adrenal cortex, is the chemical messenger of stress state. Some people have very different concentration of this hormone in the blood...
Of course, the mind, personality, consciousness, are probably irreductible to a biological basis but what is certain is that very aren't all playing the game of life with the same tools...and also it's easier for some to have a certain behavior and harder for some the change
thank's for the encouragments and congratulations and respect for the additions you get rid of
I just would say that neurosciences have strongly demonstrated that the activity in the brain of depressed people is different and can also be seen in the brains of people of the same familiy. The same is demonstrated for some kind of addiction. There is a genetical factor that influence the system of reward. (I can send you the sources)
About anxiety and stress, cortisol, an hormone produced in the adrenal cortex, is the chemical messenger of stress state. Some people have very different concentration of this hormone in the blood...
Of course, the mind, personality, consciousness, are probably irreductible to a biological basis but what is certain is that very aren't all playing the game of life with the same tools...and also it's easier for some to have a certain behavior and harder for some the change
thank's for the encouragments and congratulations and respect for the additions you get rid of