No effects... what am I doing wrong?

[BrainEater]

i'd say you have a high tolerance, which means you need to smoke a lot of it or maybe you are indeed immune... i heard about some people being immune to salvia and getting no effects...


peace

 

[Shamanita]

i tried salvia 3 times before it worked

first time: 5x extract, rather small dose, no noticable effects
second: 15 x extract, dose was too small, so no effect at all
thirth: 30 x extract, normal dose, very very subtle little effect

fourth time: smoked 1 g of salvia leaves, effect wasn't really hard, but it was surely there. Not a real breaktrough experience, but this was the best salvia-experience for so far... And this just by smoking leaves...

 

[restin]

If I'd given up drugs when they didn't work I wouldn't be here now, Darith. I had no effects from salvia, morning glory, weed (in the beginning when mixing with tobacco ). This is just an opportunity to learn from your errors and increase efficiency and how you take drugs. If you think you're on the right track, go on. Salvia is a nasty thing when coming into it.

 

[Darith]

Well, I just filled my bowl to the brim with 30x extract and smoked it, and I just felt very drunk for a few minutes, and VERY hot and sweaty. I'm just using a Bic lighter so maybe I need something hotter, I dunno. I've tried about 5 times now and I'm about ready to give up...

 

[Ultima]

i pmed you a VERY good source for sal. if that does nothing, you have something mentally wrong with you that site has TRUE 20X extract made with grain alcohol.

 

[st.bot.32]

it took me a few tries over a period of days to get anything out of it.

i have to be doing it regularly for it to work. if i havent done it in a while it doesnt seem to work for me

 

[PsychedelicPirate]

I've smoked it twice and it worked only the first time for me. The second time I coughed it out so I'm guessing that is what fucked it up.

Anyway, does anyone know where I can buy a proper lighter? I'm not a smoker and I'm just borrowing my roommate's bic.

 

[Ultima]

bics work best... the lighter doesnt really matter.. as long as you burn all the salvia.. your getting your hit...

 

[PsychedelicPirate]

I was curious because everyone suggested using a "torch" lighter and I'm not familiar with those.

 

[Synith]

OK, so I bought some salvia "standardized 20x extract" today and I've looked around on the package and on the website it directed me to and I can't figure out what exactly the correct dosage is for this strength? The package says it contains 8 mg of salvinorin A, I read that 1 mg of pure salvinorin A is the "maximum" dosage so I divided the package into 8 seperate piles. I just want to make sure I have this right before I smoke this...

Also, should I start with a smaller dosage since this is my first time using salvia? I've used acid, shrooms, K, DMT, but I've heard that salvia is quite unique so, again, I just want to make sure I'm doing this safely.

20 should be fine for a first time. The body effects are quite different from anything. The headtrip is unique as well. Why not just by extracts instead of putting it altogether? Seems like a waste of time. The only way I'd extract and re-extract salvinorin A is if I were growing the plant. Anyhow--

Get a butane torch lighter to light. You may want 2-3 bowls of this stuff to reach a higher, or so to speak-- effect. I usually stop smoking once my pipe starts talking.

As for safely-- get a sitter, or of you choose not to, do it in the familiar. Put away all sharp things and whatnot. It's hard to move around on Salvia to begin with, but you never know. It's pretty hard to overdose on Salvia as you'd probably pass out anyhow, or get blasted away into a different dimension and loose side of the fact that you're still holding your pipe. I usually have a bowl by me so I can place my pipe in there before I blow out the hit.

For me the lower doses didn't do much. I achieved more off of stronger extracts. Everyone's different though. Find out what works for you.

 

[Mycophile]

I've smoked it at least 5 times before I had the effect everybody is always talking about...

 

[mrvn]

Smoking a 5x extract works for me. Just a small bowl is enough to scare the shit out of me.
I had a horrible exp. once smoking sallie in a big bong, and everytime I try again I get this horrible feeling again.
I can eat 100+grams of fresh mushrooms whitout breaking a sweat but sallie oef it just scares the living day lights out of me.

 

[Arcticpheonix]

I usually stop smoking once my pipe starts talking.

LOL!! That's generally a good indication of when to stop, yes.




Darith, try a vaporizer if you have/can get one. I've heard that they can do amazing things with Salvia, but remember to start off with leaf/low extracts if you're going to try something new. I'd hate to see you go to all this effort only to have your first experience ruined because you happened to be trying a full bowl 100000x (no it doesn't go this high) when it finally worked.



And PsychedelicPirate, this is a torch lighter.

It's basically just a very small welding torch. People use them because they get much hotter than a "Bic" lighter (though not nearly as hot as a real welding torch) and are fairly wind proof.

 

[Arcticpheonix]

So I smoked some 10x I got from a different vendor online, and WOW. Was very good stuff. I'd tried leaf, 5x and 10x from a different site with no results, but this stuff was amazing. So if you find you are having trouble with the stuff you are buying, try something from a different source, and be careful! I was NOT prepared for the way this hit me.

 

[Affirmatory]

I really doubt a vaporizer would work with salvia. You need the torch lighter to get the smoke hotter right? not cooler.

 

[IJesusChrist]

Guys. Torch lighter is a myth.

Smoke it like your toking a bowl of weed. Light it, make sure everything is glowing, take the fire off, inhale. Keep inhaling. When your lungs are full, inhale again, and again, until you feel that your going to burst with anymore lung capacity, then cough after 3 seconds of holding, tell yourself "God I feel funny" and then you will start trying to rip the people out of the rocks that are holding your reality together. Those fuckers are tricking you!!

 

[Synith]

Guys. Torch lighter is a myth.

Uh... Salvinorin A needs to burn at a higher temperature.
You can use a standard lighter, but you get better effects off of a torch.

 

[Synith]

So I smoked some 10x I got from a different vendor online, and WOW. Was very good stuff. I'd tried leaf, 5x and 10x from a different site with no results, but this stuff was amazing. So if you find you are having trouble with the stuff you are buying, try something from a different source, and be careful! I was NOT prepared for the way this hit me.

Which brand did you smoke? I've had wonderful luck with Holy Smoke and Pure brands.
Purple Sticky is okay, other than the fact that they rip you off.

You know. This is just a random thought, but when you're under the effects of Salvia you end up trying to load another bowl and you realize that that little circle container is so fucking hard to get open, so you give up. Or you do end up loading a new bowl and you tell yourself, 'Why, oh-- you're so generous. Thank you.' And then you're launched into a land of peace.

 

[Libertine]

Tried it for the first time with friends after a concert in Atlantic City last weekend. It was 20X, it was a quick trip but it blew me away. Vivid hallucinations, cartoon characters on the TV talking to me and the floor turning to waves of blue and orange goo, etc.

I come home and find a place near me that sells it. Different company though. And instead of the 5X, 20X, 40X levels this company used color codes for strengths...green-yellow-red-purple. So I tried the 'yellow'...nothing except for some unsteadiness in my legs and a tiny bit of euphoria. Probably was 5X or 10X potency but I am not sure. Are there sometimes stark differences in effects from say 10X to 20X potencies? Or did I maybe get some impotent leaf?

 

[darkwolfunseen]

First time I used Salvia, absolutely no results. Same brand, same amount, two weeks later HUGE TRIP. Difference? As mentioned before a butane lighter. It's not a myth, Salvinorin A just needs a higher temperature.

Here's a quick synopsis from http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html:

"SMOKING:
Dried leaves can be smoked in a pipe. They need to be smoked hot and the smoke must be inhaled deeply and quickly to have an effect. Because salvinorin requires high temperatures to vaporize, it is best to hold a flame immediately above the leaves, drawing it down into the leaves the whole time you inhale. The leaves can be smoked in a short-stemmed tobacco pipe, in a bong, or in a "steamroller" pipe. Fill up a medium size bowl with leaves. Use a hand-held butane lighter that will go out when you are no longer pressing it, not a match. Have a large ashtray or tip-proof bowl to set the pipe in when you feel you've had enough. Remember that when you are immersed in the experience you may forget you are holding a lit pipe. You could drop it, causing a burn or a fire; therefore, it is best to have a sitter present when smoking. First effects will be noticed within a minute of inhaling. After 5-6 minutes the effects will gradually begin to subside. The total duration of the experience may be less than 30 minutes or as long as an hour.

Extract-enhanced leaves can also be smoked. Extract-enhanced leaves can be very strong and should only be smoked when a sitter is present. It is possible to vaporize leaves or extract in a special vaporizer that heats up material without burning it. Vaporization can be deceiving. Because very little smoke is produced, it is possible to inhale a very large dose without realizing it. Anyone trying vaporization absolutely MUST have a sitter present. Many commercial vaporizers made for Cannabis will not work for Salvia. Special Salvia vaporizers can be built easily, but vaporization is not for those new to Salvia."

Enjoy!