Never mix Opiates with Salvia

[Atanga]

I've been reading and i even saw a shop who sells a mix of Salvia Divinorum with Kratom, is just crazy.

Salvia is K-opioid agonist and kratom like many other other opiates is a mu-opioid agonist and delta-agonist , any k-opioid agonist will block the mu and delta receptor and will create a fucking withdrawal syndrome, i had tested it myself and if a take salvia after heroin or any other opiate i start a withdrawal syndrome.

Also you can never take kratom after take heroin or codein or any full mu-opioid agonist because kratom is a partial agonist/antagonist , so kratom will antagonise the mu receptor and will clean all other opiates and you will have a strange withdrawal syndrome that can last 6 hours , it just work's like buprenorphine so attention if you don't want to became very sick.

Greetings

 

[mushhed8055]

im on 8 mg of suboxone a day and even tho its not fully a opiate because its also naloxone mixed with a certian opiate so it opens your opiate receptors about half way instead of all the way like when u use opiates to get high the receptors open fully but i had salvia tonight i tryed 10X extrace and 100X extract. i love tripping but i must say salvia i have no urge to do. its just too different and makes me feel disatached from the world n almost makes me feel dead or like im dieing. and you pay so much for a 1 minit trip from a hit or 3 minits from a few hits. ive only done it 3 times tho so who knows. maby il try it some other time with a lota water in my system and just relax in a couch n drift down stream for a bit its just weird tho. i dono if i can say i like it that much. but the stuff deffinatly fu*ks u up thats for sure lol. quite an intence plant if ya ask me jus not my cup of tea il stick with my mush

 

[GOD]

Does anyone know where i can read about Kratom containing opiates please ?

 

[alesianlarken]

You can get information about the Kratom contains opiate in drug related forums.Till now i saw so many drug related forums in which i got the information but i forgot the sites of that information, i will give you link to go and search.
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alesianlarken

Opiate Addiction

 

[GOD]

Thanksa lot , but i dont look at other forums or erowid . I need facts not subjective opinions or masses of unsorted studys .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Maybe these pages are useful:

http://kratom.nl/news.html

http://kratom.nl/en/usage.htm

 

[Icelus]

Does anyone know where i can read about Kratom containing opiates please ?

http://www.sagewisdom.org/babuetal.pdf

 

[GOD]

Thanks both of you for the links , thats exactly what i needed .

The person who runs the first site has put a lot of good work into it ....... ??????

The PDF is very good to .

 

[Xibalba]

Funny to see this topic, i was reccomended kratom by a guy today after purchasing some salvia. First i took maybe 2-3 grams of kratom, got a very nice relaxed feeling and then i thought i might try the salvia too. i smoked 20x extract,maybe 5 hits and got super super "salvia" effect. Nothing unexpected happened, but funny too see this topic right after

 

[Doomed94]

Xibalba by Mansell is the best song to heard while you're high

 

[Icelus]

Funny to see this topic, i was reccomended kratom by a guy today after purchasing some salvia. First i took maybe 2-3 grams of kratom, got a very nice relaxed feeling and then i thought i might try the salvia too. i smoked 20x extract,maybe 5 hits and got super super "salvia" effect. Nothing unexpected happened, but funny too see this topic right after

You had a super super "salvia" effect but nothing unexpected happened? :?:
Then what was so super super?

 

[Xibalba]

Nothing super, just very heavy

 

[KOArecepters]

yea thats ridiculous, i just found this out a couple days ago researching koa's, happy someone put a post on this because dope and salvia is a bad combo, not that dope is good.