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my salvia experience (from a sensitive person)

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The idea of smoking salvia with my girlfriend wasnt as good as I thought it would be, because I had no idea it could have such an effect on me..

I knew it would be a strong trip but i thought: if my girlfriend is here, everything will be fine.. and I smoked it just because I had no weed left and I really wanted to get high on something, so I could feel the moment more powerful.

before that day I was listening to tom jones in the car, my dads music, I thought it would be calm music for a trip and it touched me when i listened to the lyrics.. I listen to hiphop actually but i thought it would be too scary to listen to while having a trip.

When I got home, my girlfriend arived too and I started to get nervous to have a trip, i wanted to be drugged... so stupid to think that before having a salvia trip, because its a quite strong and serious drug

I took 2 big deep hits of the salvia, I couldn't take 3 because it started to happen, i was making moves to my girlfriend saying OK its happening, take care of me... I reached to her
and grabbed her in my arms. we were lying on the bed.

I was like a fell a sleep or something, because I woke up, thinking wow what the fuck is this..??
(now I will tell you exactly what went trough my mind its verry strange)

I thought first that the way I was feeling was a secret song on the cd.

tom jones was singing like he was fooling me, I thought it was all part of his plan that I was going away from this reality.. it was superloud, like he had invaded us with that mysterious song

I totally forgot that i had smoked salvia..

the more intense tom was singing the more got pulled back, i looked at my girlfriend and touched her face, and i saw that on the right my hand there was a cut, my torso and head were going down into this strange outside of reality, and on the left side of my hand was her face and the rest of the reality that I was leaving.

the outside of reality were thick white long stripes with small black stripes between. I knew that behind me, was a big vortex or something that sucked me into that passage.
but I saw reality was becoming a higher platform, because I was going down, i saw my girlfriend lying higher than myself, because i was cut out of reality to go down, and between those 2 platforms where white stripes

I looked at her and said: are you going with me? she looked very shy and cute it looked like she was nodding her head to say yes. reality wasnt changing at all she looked very natural.

I trusted it and i was going deeper and deeper and i was noticing that reality was allmost a little cut into that world of white stripes, I only saw the stripes next to each other so i couldnt see between them

on the moment i realized that i was going alone

I closed my eyes felt a lovely feeling that said: nono no, not that! i'm not going without my baby! i thought this with a smile on my face... I was really going alone, I thought because of the music, wich she hears too, she would have the same experience. But I was obviously wrong. and i started crying and fighting to stay with my girlfriend..

then I woke up next to my bed all with sweat all over my body, looking to the wall, thinking, what the fuck goddamn that was the salvia trip.

I immediately stood up and ran to the cd player to stop that awefull singing and I was very pissed at tom jones..

I grabbed my girlfriend and cried for ten minutes saying i'm sorry i'm sorry...

First it seemed I was saying sorry for crying very hard in her arms, and the more I was thinking, i realised what a drug addict I was, like I was looking though her eyes and seeing I am a pathetic looser that wants to escape from reality, not appreciating life like it should be.. I also felt like this because she never took drugs, not even smoked a sigarette in her life.

I felt stupid because of my idea of wanting to escape without really knowing what would happen if i really had let myself go with the flow of the salvia.

I remembered also the moment I was leaving to go to tunesia and i was crying in her arms because I had to leave her for 2 weeks and it was a hard vacation with my parents, missing her a lot, I had the same feeling during the salvia trip but 817841863748141 as intense, I was super sensitive realising I was going away from her, not even knowing where I was going.

I didnt went and i was glad I was back.

it has been 5 months know i took them and 3 months after the trip I was still psychologically reparing from the trip.. like it had a powerful effect on my view on our relationship.

I still have problems missing her a lot when she's not there, I get depressed a little bit, i got very weak after that trip, i was a super softie for more than 3 months.

I had a stronger perception of what was right and wrong in life, i noticed things in life a hadnt notice before, very depressing stuff like the dream I had of being a rich man one day, i got told that being rich isnt that inportant in life but i felt that very intense after that, because I only saw rich people being selfish, trying to stay rich or being richer by taking decisions without giving a fuck who is getting hurt... I was an adult, I couldnt stand it knowing I was doing wrong things in my life, just thinking of all the good people in the world convinced me to go straight with my life and not fuck around like some adolescents do lots of times.

It was like God getting into my life for the first time

before that i felt god with weed, saw god in material, heard god in music, but never noticed god inside my body, telling me that some things a really bad things and you mustnt do it or you will be punished for it one day in the future..

thanks for reading my experience, I am an artist myself I was 18 years old when i did this, now i am 19 and my life had changed big time in a good way, but i have to say i got very depressed for a long time i got irritated by everyting that represented the devil inside people around me, teachers and even my own parents... it was like I had to do this to know about the world, what was really happening to the world without everybody noticing, the effects of bad society to the brain of the innocent human beings that just dont know shit...

now I feel strong thanks to meditation, but it is hard to handle such a big responsability and so much wisdom on my age, I was still learning from the trip several months after I had it.

peace out

ps i dont think i'm going to try it again, it was too hard for me I learned too much on short time and got shocked very hard
 
I think if the trip had such an influence in your live, it was probably necessary.
You’ll also learn more on a “bad
 
I tried the 5x extract yesterday. First I filled my pipe 2 times woth normal salvia leaves, just to taste and prepare on what was going to happen. I felt kinda stoned, and while watching 'shamans_of_the_amazon_-_ayahuasca_dmt_mckenna_-_2002' the morphing visuals (which were real) seemed way more alive then normally. After some time I filled my pipe with the extract, and I couldn't sit normally on my couch anymore, I just had to keep changing positions.
After the second time I filled it and smoked it I went to bed. In there it was kinda weird :) my blankets felt really heavy, like I was covered under a rock. I had to keep my eyes open cause I was pretty dizzy. When I closed them I felt like my bed was turned 45 degrees downwards, and I was sliding somewhere, not very hard, but with some speed. I felt like there were two people next to my bed, one a few meters away from my feet, and one just next to me. The one next to me kept laughing and laughing, and I just kept sliding down. Damn his laugh was very annoying :) The one at my feet became more distant (I didn't see any of them, I just felt they were there) and then my bed stopped sliding, and the other went away as well.

I fell asleep and had the next dream:
I was sitting at home, alone. Suddenly I found myself in the living room, with three other people. They tied my arms up with ropes, and kinda hold me hostage in my own house. Two of them went away, and I was tied to a chair. The one that was still there went through the doors to my backyard, and stood there with his back faced to me. The ropes were suddenly untied (???) and I stood up, grabbed a bottle of wine, and smashed his head with it from the back. He fell down, and I saw some blood through his hair. I went back to the chair, sat there again pretending I was still tied up, waiting for the others to come back.
The I saw the guy in my backyard move again, I ran up to him, smashed his head until he was totally fucked up and bleeding, after that I cant remember anything.

Normally I never have violent dreams like this :roll:
 
thx gerbyQ for your advice, it's true there's nothing to be afraid of if you know you are gonna make it, salvia cant make me die or something but i had the feeling something terrible was going to happen if i had left reality

were would I go? I have not much experience with meditation and stuff, I like to meditate because it stops the bad thoughts that are screaming in my head on unapropriate moments...

I think if I go to that other reality I will see something or someone that wil scare the crap out of me because I have something with faces all my life: I admired spooky faces when I was little... keath flint of the prodigy, those faces on the thunderdome cd's that scare a lot, IT the clown and so on...

so i dont know what to expect if I leave reality I could have an hart attack on what I will discover

peace
 
Yeah, those are - in retrospective - the best trips when you think "I'm going to have a nice trip tonight because I feel so good" and then BANG! the trip holds a mirror up in front of you and tells you "look at you, what do you think you're doing?!" I never had such a trip on salvia (salvia didn't tell me anything, so I quit trying) but you can also have these kind of trips with other psychedelics. They are frightening, but therefore they will make you change your ways to the better!
 
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