Medical Marijuana + making tea from cannabis

[Monk543]

My mother is doing radiation treatment and having big issues with loss of appetite and nausia. She has been adamantly opposed to trying marijuana because, I believe, the social taboo associated with it and the idea that "she couldn't handle it" because she is so "sensitive". That is, the plant would somehow do more harm than good or she would freak out from the pschoactive effects. I imagine, from personal experience, that it is not as "serious" as some of the pain medication she had taken earlier...

Anyway, she will never smoke anything, and brownies are out of the question, but she has reluctantly agreed to try a tea, if I could make it and promise to make it very mild at first and go from there.

For what it is worth, there aren't any medications that have helped with appetite and anti-nausia medication runs about $40 for ONE pill. With insurance it's a little under half that, but it is very expensive regardless and not entirely effective. Other meds are cheaper but less effective than this particular one (Zofran).

I'm not a smoker myself, but have visited amsterdam and smoked on occasion when I lived in Germany. However, living in the particular area of the United States that I do, it is a fairly ubiquitous and easy to obtain. We have a medical-marijuana program in our state, but I'm not going to bother with it right now - though I will give them a donation in the future if I have some luck with this.

I volunteer at a local cable access station and have been asked to help the "legalize marijuana" show in the past. Such experience leads me to believe that there are some serious and significant benefits -- I just don't have any personal experience with marijuana used medicinally, except what I heard while crewing the show from guests or the occasional episode on tv.

Any advice on making a tea (is that plausable?) would be apprecaited. Also, if you have personal experience with medical marijuana used against nausia and loss of appetite I would be happy to hear about it. That said, I would be more interested in the skeptical side of things, since so far it seems that this is a very effective treatment -- however, people on a show about medical marijuana legalization are perhaps not entirely objective.

It may (?) not be cost effective compared to smoking or cooking, but that isn't an issue really considering the high cost of the alternative and my mom happens to be a rather stubborn lady, but very herbal medicine friendly (legal herbs that is) and drinks all sorts of other herbal teas -- so the mental barrier is MUCH easier to cross this way.


Thanks for all very much for your advice in advance...

 

[Monk543]

The first couple paragraphs, with the quotation marks, seem to read very sarcastically - which was not my intention. I just wanted to illustrate that she's of a relatively sensitive constitution and has never smoked marijuana before. Also, I would like to make as mild a concoction as possible and go from there, depending on if there are some positive results.

I understand making tea is difficult, as high temperatures break down THC?

 

[forest]

well, one day i had a plant in my garden, and after harvesting i took a bunch of leaves and put them in a big pot with water and boiled it. it became a green tea. but i thought that it wouldn't have any effect, so before going to school i drunk one cup of the stuff. a bit later on school i was lauching for no reason and high an relaxed, and everybothy was laughing and saying: ooh you're too stoned!
but i couldn't figure out why that would be, but it was the tea.

so i think just boil the grass/leaves in water and it should be fine, but im not completely sure.

 

[marc]

Just make tea as you always do, but put some milk with fat in it. Just let it boil on a low fire for about 20 - 30 minutes with the desired amount of weed/hasj.

The thc will stick to the fat in the milk.

You can also boil some water and add some butter. You can also melt some hasj in oil.

Also, you can find recipes here :

http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/

Or here :

http://home.c2i.net/freddiefreak/E/snac ... people.htm



Or, I can send you a copy of the book : "The art & science of cooking with cannabis" written by Adam Gottlieb which is full with recipes for tea, meals, cookies & drinks.



Just let me know your e-mail and I'll be happy to send you a copy !

 

[forest]

het stukje over cannabier is heel interessant, over hoe ze THC in de oorlog gebruikten.
ook de boekenlijst voor ''independent minds'' die achterin staat is mooi.

een cannabisrestaurant. daar zou je dik veel mee kunnen verdienen, inamsterdam. wel vegetarisch. 18+

een restaurant met:
hashkoffie- hashmelk- hashijs- wietsoep- wiettaart- wietstamppot-

dan is het wel voor mensen die genoeg geld hebben, maar iedereen daarbinnen heeft het geweldig naar hun zin, lachkicks ed.
en natuurlijk voor de prostoners: het speciale manu; EET ZO VEEL JE WIL VOOR 20 EURO.

en een saladbar.
het zou geweldig zijn om daar kok te zijn, alles even voorproeven

(the end of another episode of forest's fantasies)

 

[Ilian]

please keep it english here

just boiling in water isnt enough, because the THC doesnt 'attach' to water (imagine what a rain would do to our precious plants). you need to use something fat, like milk or butter.

 

[Monk543]

I had found a recipe on the net about making tea but it didn't seem to be a very good one, this seems quite a bit better. Whole milk tea with honey and a little butter sounds much more appealing. I didn't realize the mechanics involved until just now (THC being fat soluable).

Anyway, my mom is afraid of the consequences of my 'breaking the law' in obtaining cannabis. I was planning on getting about 1-2 grams but that doesn't seem to make a difference... so hopefully her doctor will back me up...

I appreciate the generosity, but I don't think I need a whole cookbook. Tea should do I think. Very much appreciated though, thank you all very much for the advice so far.

W

 

[Viaticus]

You can also use just milk and make a nice cup of hot chocolate with it. That way you don't need to worry about adding fat to the water. And it's tasty too.

It should also be kept in mind than when taken orally, THC needs a lot more time to produce effects as opposed to smoking. Best of luck to you and your mom!

 

[forest]

and hashyoghurt is really something to recommend. it works great and is easy to make, just don't put too much in it.

 

[Monk543]

How do you make that? That sounds like a very good route. Just stir a bit in and let it sit?

So far though, now that everything is ready to go, I'm just waiting for the doctor to talk to her on tuesday because she is very skeptical still..

thanks again

w

 

[Adrenochromatik]

hi,
if that can help you, i know how to make "hash sugar". you mix a little of melted butter with hash ( use good hash) and after you mix with sugar. it look like brown sugar, and you can put it in tea or coffee... when i was younger, i used to put this in my coffee, it's not so bad and the effects are not very strong ( depend of the dose too...)
excuse my bad english!

 

[Forkbender]

How do you make that? That sounds like a very good route. Just stir a bit in and let it sit?

The yoghurt can be made by dissolving hash in a spoonful of vegetable oil (keep a lighter under it to make it dissolve). When all hash is dissolved, stir it into the yoghurt (probably want something like fruit or greek yoghurt for the taste) and start eating. Make sure you do not eat too much, cause hash can really make you trip in higher doses. You don't want that in a first experience. Maybe you should begin low, with say 1/10th of a gram.

Good luck and I hope it is some sort of relief for your mother if she decides to take the step.

 

[Meduzz]

also good is some hash in some chocolat milk.
it's very simple just make some (very) hot chocolate milk by dissolving bits of chocolate in the milk (duuuh ) and put the hash in it piece by piece :wink:

 

[Monk543]

Here in the USA hash is slightly tricky to come by (especially compared to the ubiquity of actual grass), more expensive, and generally of a lower quality than what you might be used to.

Can these recipes be used with grass in place of hash? You can't really melt weed into oil, but how about stirring it up together, or must heat be involved?

Thanks

 

[Ilian]

yes there must be heat involved to 'activate' the thc. just grind the weed in a coffeegrinder and heat it then. i think it should work

 

[Adrenochromatik]

Maybe you can make Marrakech butter ... but It's more used for space cake.
If you make sugar with or hot chocolate ..

http://budy2023.free.fr/spacecake/spacecake1.html

 

[Forkbender]

Can these recipes be used with grass in place of hash? You can't really melt weed into oil, but how about stirring it up together, or must heat be involved?

This is indeed possible. You should grind the weed as fine as possible and heat it in oil or butter to about 90 degrees Celsius (use a pan in a bigger pan with water). After this you just have to drain the lot, so that there are no leaves in whatever you're planning on making. Also you should keep a keen eye on the amount you use, so that you don't use too much, cause you might start tripping.

 

[h0ll0wd0ll]

just boiling in water isnt enough, because the THC doesnt 'attach' to water (imagine what a rain would do to our precious plants). you need to use something fat, like milk or butter.

this might explain why my "ganja tea" experiments are always miserable failures

thanks!

 

[petfles]

Hi!
I just take fat milk, the weed goes in there. You can take a spoon of extra fat butter if you think it will taste. Warm it up, just before boiling. About 15 minutes of heating up will do. I put 2 spoons of cacoa in it too, it taste good and can intensify the feeling in a good way.
The amount is another question. 1 gram of dutch weed can get you really stoned. Any amount, actually, can make someone trip on weed. You should be careful, but tripping ain't that bad, it is a bit chaotic though.....

I would believe, without experience, that you should try at low doses. The stoned feeling can last about 5 to 6 hours. There will be a more concentrated thought pattern, you are able to neglect pain and nausea. But the thought pattern isn't predictable, music, television, talking, are important. It just takes some time to get used too.

 

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