LSD + SSRI :(?

[Yatenkaiohu]

Hey everybody! I know I'm a new member and asking a question already, but I might as well start somewhere on here

Anyways I have a friend who's been taking Celexa for a month now (20mg). He is going to buy 3 hits of blotter and wanted to know what the effects might be. He stopped taking it on Wednesday and wanted to trip on Saturday.

My question is will he be able to feel the full effects of Lucy or will he have to wait it out until the meds are fully out of his system? Any help would be very much appreciated Thank you!

 

[braha_kahn]

I'd say wait a month or (even more) ... Better safe then sorry!

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

A month?! That's crazy

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Hi Yati, welcome to the forum.

I'd say wait a month or (even more) ... Better safe then sorry!

First we need to establish whether it would really be safer. As far as I know you can combine LSD with several types of medication.

It may be more dangerous to interrupt the intake of such medication (for a month or more?!) in order to have a trip.

In the case of ayahuasca (or any plant mixture containing an MAOi), yes, do interrupt the intake of SSRI's for a couple of days, but as far as LSD is concerned, unless someone here presents solid facts as to why you should not combine an SSRI with LSD (or shrooms), I wouldn't worry about combining them. Isn't hippyflipping combining an SSRI (MDMA) with LSD as well? We know from decades of practical experience that hippyflipping is perfectly safe.

 

[Meduzz]

I don't want to pretend I'm a doctor, but I'd say that if you're used to SSRI's, don't stop taking them for an acid trip. Relatively low levels of serotonin + LSD can give bad experiences (like taking LSD short after an MDMA binge).

Just my 2 cents....

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

Meh Celeax doesn't really interfere with the 5-HT2a receptor, so I think he'll be fine

 

[braha_kahn]

A month?! That's crazy

hey feel free to disagree man... i'm just thinking about the possible psychological consequences too... if you are already "worried" because of the ssri... well the worrying can influence the trip in a not so good way...

 

[skrudge]

SSRI's stabalise the serotonine uptake and production, right? My girlfriend started taking them some weeks ago since she has some sort of subconcious anxiety. If you stop takeing the SSRI meds without building the dosage off the receptors get a blow I presume. Serotonine is being produced in the original way again, and the one who undergoes the medication falls back into the state previous to taking the medication.
I don't know how this would react to entheogens, but if you'd ask me, I think it would be better to let the serotonine stabalise first in a natural way. I advised my girl not to do any type of psychedelic until she's off the meds. I simply don't want her to risk it. She wants good experiences, and if I think she wouldn't get one on the meds, I won't let her do it.

Your thoughts are appreciated on this.

Peace

 

[Meduzz]

SSRI's don't stabilize serotonin reuptake, they just inhibit serotonin reuptake.
They are not wonder drugs.
Prozac used to be an additive for rocket fuel or something like that, and after the war they had shitloads left so they started looking for medical applications. They gave it to tuberculose patients and noticed their mood was lifted by the drug, now it's the most commonly prescribed antidepressant.

Supprisingly (not that much in fact) you won't find this information on the wikipedia page of prozac...


Disclaimer: not telling people not to take their medications, I'm not a doctor.

 

[Brugmansia]

Oh yeah, when one just came off anti-depressants that's readily a go for taking acid. Where have we gone, people...

Don't be daft, when someone needs SRRI's, there's certainly a part of his inner life that puts very negative energy on the self.

And this doesn't dissapear in just 'one month', I even dare to say there always remains something of it for the rest of one's entire life. The SRRI's are not the problem, but the reason someone is taking them for.

The ingestion of any psychedelic may swell that very minor part of negative energy with the possibility of a fatal end. Of course, it could be somewhere around the lines of 'the cure for life' as well.

But one should be EXTREMLY careful when dealing with psychedelics if he has ever been depressed. It may turn out in heaven just as easy as in may turn out into a hell.

Ex-Depressive people almost always experience merely the both outer sides of emotions or feelings. With fast swings between them.

At some points of their lives, they may feel that it has fade away completely, but the seeds may be still there, undetectable for one's sensory when sober. The roots can grow in no time if one opens the doors.

 

[druglessdouglas]

^^ :thumbsup:

medically there is no problem. your friend should continue taking their medicine

 

[GOD]

I agree with Brugmansia , take care .

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

I was only worried about him doing it because of medical reasons. He is a is someone who does get depressed just like other people, but that's not why he is on the SSRI.

Mentally and spiritual he is just fine for taking the Celexa, but he was just worried about medically. Thank you for all your responses

 

[GOD]

You should read this :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citalopram

Your friend should not take psychedelics .

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

I read it... What's wrong though?

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

Read that

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2891

 

[GOD]

A subjective experience . No one who takes anti depressants or has mental problems should take drugs .

I this would have been better if it had been posted in the other thread about the same subject .

 

[VintagexPlastic]

A subjective experience . No one who takes anti depressants or has mental problems should take drugs .

I this would have been better if it had been posted in the other thread about the same subject .

I have major depressive disorder and take welbutrin XL, and i also have anxiety disorder.
and weed and LSD have helped
its all depends on how the person views it all.

 

[robhR]

LSD was the best thing to ever happen to my depression.

You just gotta know what you're getting into and be willing to deal with the possibility that your problems will be thrown right in your face.

If your friend is going into this to have a good time, then I agree with GOD and Brugmansia, he has no idea the gravity of what could happen and that will make things much worse than they need to be. However if he's going into it with the hopes of a little more clarity on what's going on in there then he's making a good move.

But this is coming from somebody who's never been on an antidepressant regiment so i'unnow.

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

LSD was the best thing to ever happen to my depression.

You just gotta know what you're getting into and be willing to deal with the possibility that your problems will be thrown right in your face.

If your friend is going into this to have a good time, then I agree with GOD and Brugmansia, he has no idea the gravity of what could happen and that will make things much worse than they need to be. However if he's going into it with the hopes of a little more clarity on what's going on in there then he's making a good move.

But this is coming from somebody who's never been on an antidepressant regiment so i'unnow.

It helped. He has now lost the need for anger and sees it as being completely pointless. Depression is also useless he has figured out. This life is just too short to be angry and depressed! He also thinks that people pass onto another dimension because of some universal flow he felt. Lot's of crazy stuff but he did find the answers he was looking for