I want to smoke DMT for the spiritual experience.

[bloodbrother778]

for real^^, the goddamn government brainwashes people so much, just the other day i had a conversation with people where i was telling them that alcohol and cigarettes are worse for you than stuff like weed and psychedelics, and they were like no how could that be true? narcotics are way worse than cigarettes (and at this point we were talking about weed..... they actually called weed a narcotic...), fuck i honestly think the reason the government makes psychedelics illegal because they make you realize just how much bullshit they feed you and once you realize that you try to fight against it, which takes away their power, which is something they don't want..... I wish more people weren't too stupid to realize that they're being brainwashed and controlled

kudos to you hive for breaking out of that

 

[user_1919]

amen to that bloodbrother778, the government wants you to drink alcohol so your mind never leaves the mundane path of thinking. They don't want you to actually ask questions. It's so funny talking to people who are so convienced that mushrooms, lsd, marijuana, or ayahuasca are very bad. Like they know ONLY that it is bad, nothing else, no reason, just bad. And then you try to explain to them the theraputic value and they call you a druggy. A war you will never win without the other person having experience some type of psychedelic.

Can't change their path of thinking, so my view is, fuck em. They can live there false and borning life, and I will continue to expand my mind. Their lose

PEACE

 

[Hive_Node]

I believe the only thing keeping the soft drugs from legalization is the current generation in control of the government. As new generations step up to take hold, laws will be passed allowing the recreational use of soft drugs. At least, that's what I think (and hope) will happen.

 

[user_1919]

Yes we all hope they will make the soft drugs legal!

Hive_Node: I'm interested in what path your going to take. Whether your going to smoke DMT with no previous mind-changing substance use, or are you going to get some experience with mind-changing substances? Sorry if im being nosey, I just want to know how it would go if DMT was smoked before any use, what your thoughts would be on it compared to people who have used other psychedelics before trying DMT.

PEACE

 

[Hive_Node]

Yes we all hope they will make the soft drugs legal!

Hive_Node: I'm interested in what path your going to take. Whether your going to smoke DMT with no previous mind-changing substance use, or are you going to get some experience with mind-changing substances? Sorry if im being nosey, I just want to know how it would go if DMT was smoked before any use, what your thoughts would be on it compared to people who have used other psychedelics before trying DMT.

PEACE

I think I am going to extract some of my own, use it once, then store it away until I am confused about spirituality in another way and use it again. I think I will just do the DMT unless I have a chance to procure some other mind-altering substances as I am starting to think that being able to comprehend what is going on well could help steer it towards a "good trip". But the right setting is in order aswell.

I was thinking of smoking it while under the stars, because space is so vast and makes you think (even though my eyes will be closed for most of it), I just think space could influence it to where I want the trip to take me. Although I also read you have no control and to just let it happen.

 

[Brugmansia]

I've never done synthical DMT yet. But from all the trip reports I have read and info I looked up the love sensation and rushes and spectaculair trip itself makes it immense. Even though it's just an instant blast I'd just for it, it's short acting and typical a love entheogen.

Unlike Salvia or Mushrooms, chances of going through paths with anxiety and fear is not a comfortable invitation for beginners for further experiences.

Prices here in the Netherlands are somewhere around 250 Euro's for 1 gram, but single bought trips are more expensive.

 

[user_1919]

This is a question for anyone who has done N,N-DMT. Do you weigh up your doses, or just eye it? Cause I know the difference between 30mg and 60mgs is very different. How can you be sure you won't be projected into a 60mg experience your first time without accuratly weighing it out? I guess it doesn't matter if your intent is to go deep into the DMT realm either way.

 

[bloodbrother778]

What I usually do with mine is weight out like a gram and then try to divide that into 20 approximately equal piles, each one being a full dose, I usually make a line out of the gram and use a ruler to divide it equally (make a 5 inch line and divide into quarter inches), most people don't weight it out since you need to have a milligram scale to do it precisely and most people don't, I've been considering buying one though, would be nice to weigh stuff out precisely and would probably save you some of that magical spice

 

[Psychoid]

I believe the only thing keeping the soft drugs from legalization is the current generation in control of the government. As new generations step up to take hold, laws will be passed allowing the recreational use of soft drugs. At least, that's what I think (and hope) will happen.

This is exactly what I think too. I guess all we can do is wait, become as time goes by more true information is being spread among the populations, and if older people are too brainwashed to accept them to be true (my parents won't believe any study saying an illegal drug isn't bad, even if it's the government that did it), younger people listen and learn. When my generation (I'm currently 18 years old) is going to take control of the government, chances are that laws will start to change.

 

[Guest]

But, if for some strange reason you had a bad experience, no matter how troubling the experience is, it will be over in half hour

But when you enter "the DMT Space" time is irrelevant.
You could have the experience of a day or a week or a whole lifetime in those (approx) 10 minutes that you are in that space.
Although bad experiences are there, with the right set and setting there's nothing to worry about and that's the same with shrooms.
If you're up for it, then you're up for it.

I still think trying shrooms or shroomtea would be a nice way for an introduction into psychedelics.
Don't look at the risk it involves, because then you create a doubt by forehand.
This doesn't mean you don't have to be cautious, but prepare well and make a great journey.

 

[user_1919]

I know age is irrelievent, but around what age did you guys first try DMT. Also what kind of psychedelic background did you have first? I'm very curious on trying DMT, but i'm only 17, and it feels like I should wait, but im soooo curious!

 

[Brewmaster]

I let DMT stay at my house for a week once........
Ate all my food and broke my DVD player......never paid for nothin'.

I wouldn't hang out with that dude if I were you.

 

[bloodbrother778]

I was 19 when I had my first experience, I wasn't the most experienced person with psychedelics, but I wasn't a stranger either, I've done acid, dxm, inhalants (stupid idea btw), salvia, and some other psychedelics like 2CI, also I had a bunch of threshold DMT experiences before getting my real breakthrough. Looking back nothing really prepared me for it, salvia came the closest because of its discomfort and intensity, but DMT still blew it out of the water.
The real preparation doesn't need to be experience with psychedelics, it needs to be your mindset. I read somewhere that the only thing that influences DMT trips is the intention of the "soul", I found this to be true. I wanted to get a profound life changing trip of a lifetime, and that is what I was looking for when I first tried acid, needless to say I was disappointed, however that is exactly what I got from DMT.

 

[Guest]

The real preparation doesn't need to be experience with psychedelics, it needs to be your mindset.

I wanted to get a profound life changing trip of a lifetime, and that is what I was looking for when I first tried acid, needless to say I was disappointed, however that is exactly what I got from DMT.

Like you say, it's all in the mindset,
so you could have a lifechanging journey with any Tryptamine or Mescalin or MDMA.
It's just the framework you put it in.
Personal preferences vary ofcourse

He's A god, like you, me, and everyone else, but we must be unjacked from the matrix in order to have these realizations.

'Unjacking from the matrix' is more than the act of dropping a psychedelic, it's LISTENING to what the psychedelic says,
and what they all say is the same thing

I let DMT stay at my house for a week once........
Ate all my food and broke my DVD player......never paid for nothin'.

I wouldn't hang out with that dude if I were you.

Brew! You're back!
Are you sure the food wasn't Mary Jane's fault and the DVD player Mr. J. Daniels?

 

[tryptonaut]

I wanted to point out that - even DMT is more intense - shrooms or acid are not "weak". I have never done smoked DMT, only oral with a MAOI in a smaller dose. I can imagine DMT can take you very far because the small dose already was like a stronger shroom trip, BUT I have had experiences with shrooms (6g and up) that were extremely strong. I have had a death experience once on my first really high dosed trip and I was convinced I would be floating alone in an empty universe forever. After I realized I wasn't dead it became the most spiritual trip of my life and I had a glimpse on the truth (at least I thought so)

I have had two or three experiences of uber-joy on mushrooms that lasted for one or two hours which were so extreme that I almost passed out. Ecstasy was nothing compared against it, and I am convinced that not even injecting heroin and cocaine at the same time could give you a more pleasant experience. I knew on these mushroom experiences that any more of this pure joy would make me explode into tiny pieces, feeling better than that just seemed impossible.

So, if DMT is a space rocket, shrooms and lsd are still pretty fast airplanes, and I'd advise you to learn flying the planes before you set your foot into the rocket!

 

[bloodbrother778]

I believe the only thing keeping the soft drugs from legalization is the current generation in control of the government. As new generations step up to take hold, laws will be passed allowing the recreational use of soft drugs. At least, that's what I think (and hope) will happen.

This is exactly what I think too. I guess all we can do is wait, become as time goes by more true information is being spread among the populations, and if older people are too brainwashed to accept them to be true (my parents won't believe any study saying an illegal drug isn't bad, even if it's the government that did it), younger people listen and learn. When my generation (I'm currently 18 years old) is going to take control of the government, chances are that laws will start to change.

I doubt that that is what will happen, because that older generation is still imposing its values on ours, and while many of us realize the truth about drugs, we simply aren't enough, too many people are growing up opposed to drugs already because of that older generation, while I would like what you say to happen I simply don't think it will.

 

[bloodbrother778]

So, if DMT is a space rocket, shrooms and lsd are still pretty fast airplanes, and I'd advise you to learn flying the planes before you set your foot into the rocket!

LSD and mushrooms can definitely be powerful if you eat enough, however the trip is just too different to be able to prepare you for a DMT trip, on acid and mushrooms the gradual increase in intensity allows you to settle into the trip and become comfortable as well as perhaps influence it somewhat with your thoughts. On DMT its just an instantaneous trip through hyperspace into another dimension, nothing you experience on LSD or mushrooms can prepare you for it. However, more experience can put you in a more comfortable mindset that will perhaps influence your trip a bit, so it is always a good idea to experience other things before DMT, I can't imagine what would've happened to me if the first psychedelic experience I've ever had was a true DMT trip.
Perhaps LSD and mushrooms are planes, but I don't think I or anyone else would want an airplane pilot flying my rocket

 

[Forkbender]

I doubt that that is what will happen, because that older generation is still imposing its values on ours, and while many of us realize the truth about drugs, we simply aren't enough, too many people are growing up opposed to drugs already because of that older generation, while I would like what you say to happen I simply don't think it will.

Do people who take entheogens still have an evolutionary advantage over people who don't? I don't think so, although it would be nice (pussy galore!)

 

[bloodbrother778]

evolutionary advantage probably not, but i kind of have a feeling that our next evolutionary step will have something psychedelic in its nature

 

[Forkbender]

^on what basis do you believe that? and how do you think it is going to work out?