I want to smoke DMT for the spiritual experience.

[Hive_Node]

Let me start by saying, I have never done any drugs. Ever. But I find them very interesting and would give any of the soft drugs a try at any time. I understand from research that DMT causes you to "travel to another realm" and to "meet god-like beings". I'm very a very spiritual and philisophical person, searching for lifes great answers and such, and I think this drug could increase my understanding a bit, even though I have read that you don't remember much for too long and that it's hard to describe exactly what you learned on your trip.

Also, people say that it is so potent you should have some experience with lesser similar drugs. If it's so potent, wouldn't it make every other drug wasted experience and just blow them all out of the water?

Do you think it is worth a try?

How much does DMT generally cost in the smokeable form?

Thanks a lot for any answers and expect to hear from me in the future.

 

[user_1919]

They say that nothing can prepare you for the freebase DMT experience. I have never done the drug, but I do know that you should have some basic skills in exploring one own mind. Some of the things that you experience during LSD or Mushroom experiences may help you keep calm durning the very intense DMT experience.

"Do you think it is worth a try? "

Yes, everyone should experience it, you should do a little more research on the drug, and you should get some experience with 'lighter' psychedelics. At least in my opinion. Before consuming my first mushrooms, I was nervous, I couldn't imagine what it would be like if I were to smoke DMT for my very first psychedelic experience.

"How much does DMT generally cost in the smokeable form?"

Usually is not sold on the street, nor is legal anywhere I know. You can extract it yourself from certain natural plants. It is a fairly simple process. If you want a link to this, just ask. Or you could simply google "DMT extraction".

Also, Mushrooms and LSD also tend to casue spritual experiences, maybe not as profound as DMT, but they are still very profound.

 

[Meduzz]

maybe it's a good idea to get started with other psychedelics like shrooms.
on the other hand, they say nobody is ready for DMT... :wink:

i think it's better to trip on LSD or shrooms first
they may give you an idea of how the DMT blast must feel. (i think :wink: )

 

[Forkbender]

If it's so potent, wouldn't it make every other drug wasted experience and just blow them all out of the water?

No. You will always get what you are willing to receive.

 

[Gratefully_dead]

In my own experience I've found that trying new drugs is an exciting and sometimes neve racking experience theres no real way to prepare yourself for a first-time trip whether it's your first time smoking pot, doing shrooms, dropping acid or smoking DMT. However I definately think you should start off at least do mushrooms once or twice before venturing into the DMT realm, I wish I could tell you about my experiences with DMT but alas I have no DMT experience hahaha but from what I've read there may be nothing to prepare you for the experience however if you experiment with shrooms or LSD beforehand you will become more comfortable with the psychedelic trip. you won't be so put-off by everyday objects morphing and melting and in the psychedelic world experience is everything. So i'd say before you invest your money and mind in DMT I'd work your way up to it.

 

[scamie]

for me dmt is the most astonishing.. amazing... most SAFE way to go!!
maybe the difficult part would be the intergration ... when you never used any psychedelics.
The nice thing on dmt is thar there's np way beack... and its so fast you cant get a hold on your thoughts wich makes it more easy.
well.... easy and most intense.... wtf... just do it.. you will survive my friend!!

 

[Guest]

maybe the difficult part would be the intergration...

For someone who doesn't do any drugs the hard part would probably be smoking that nasty shit.

 

[Hive_Node]

maybe the difficult part would be the intergration...

For someone who doesn't do any drugs the hard part would probably be smoking that nasty shit.

Yes I read it tasted terrible and the smoke is very harsh. But isn't Saliva the only other drugs like this you actually smoke?

 

[Meduzz]

But isn't Saliva the only other drugs like this you actually smoke?

saliva is in our mouths
it's salvia :wink:

there are a lot of drugs you can smoke, like psilocybin (if you have extracted it) or all those herbals that give only a light buzz.

and not to forget, our friend marihuana :weedman:
but i quit smoking weed until februari

 

[MindAstronaut]

If you can get your hands on, do it, its worth to try

But if you don't have any background with psychedelics, i would advice you to dose not more then 5 mg the first time.

 

[bloodbrother778]

A spiritual experience is exactly what you want to smoke DMT for, in order to receive everything you can from it you have to be truly ready, which in your case should probably involve experiencing other psychedelics before it, or perhaps just doing low dose DMT your first few times, It is true however that there's nothing that will give you even the slightest hint on what a true DMT trip is, I've done quite a few psychedelics before DMT, even had a few salvia trips (at least one of which was level five) I feel like the salvia sort of prepared me for it more than anything because it's the closest thing you can get to DMT intensity, but even it faded completely in comparison to the awesome power of DMT. After my first real DMT trip I actually gained an understanding of what god really is, and before that I was a total hardcore atheist lol. You really have to be prepared though. Basically you need to be prepared to die, because that is likely what you will think happened. I would suggest starting meditation before trying it, for a couple of weeks perhaps, and meditating right before a trip - it puts you in the right state of mind.

As far as getting DMT you pretty much can't, except for at festivals (but I heard it's really expensive there), unless you really know people, you either have to make it yourself or know someone who made it, but really the extraction process is simple and you can get over 2 grams of it (which is over 40 strong doses) for around 100 bucks worth of stuff.

 

[Hive_Node]

But isn't Saliva the only other drugs like this you actually smoke?

saliva is in our mouths
it's salvia :wink:

Yeah sorry, I am not the best typer.

Anyway, earlier in this thread somebody offered to link me to a thread or page somewhere that would teach me how to extract DMT? Is it dangerous? A friend of mine was in a Meth lab explosion and he got ammonia burns all over his arms. Is the set up small?

 

[Meduzz]

heey it was a joke

it's just a simple acid base extraction with defat.

google for the DMT nexus :wink:

 

[user_1919]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/ext ... ide1.shtml

 

[acim2]

I don't think it will blow away other drugs because it's so short and intense. Other psychedelics allow you to interact more with your surroundings for a longer period of time, so I think the total experience is much different.

Also...even though it's so intense, in some ways it could be easier.

I don't think you will have any trouble with any of them if you prepare your mood and are in the right setting. But, if for some strange reason you had a bad experience, no matter how troubling the experience is, it will be over in half hour. With LSD or shrooms, you might end up being uncomfortable for a long time.

I'd say extract some, spend that time to think about it, and then try it if you feel spiritually up to it and have the right setting.

Not to be disagreeable, but I think a small dose of DMT is not the best idea. I usually feel uncomfortable on a small dose of DMT. It doesn't seem like it's the same as LSD in small doses...it kind of confuses me. I always tell myself that the only thing to worry about is getting too small a dose.

I definitely agree that smoking for the first time with DMT might be problematic. It will be hard to inhale and you might end up coughing through the experience....which would be hard to imagine, but maybe not fun. I'm not sure how to prepare for that...I don't what to recommend weed or cigarettes. The DMT I get usually is very white and isn't extremely harsh...it also usually smells a little bit mild rather than like burnt plastic...but maybe that's me, I've smoked a lot of weed and in the past cigarettes, so that might have dulled my sensitivity.

 

[Maru]

Yeah, go for the DMT if you are involved in the spiritual side of life !

I do not find that shrooms is a better start. Shrooms and LSD are long lasting experiences which is rather hard to handle if things gone wrong. With smoked DMT, you can build up slowly the dose the get familiar with each 'step' (or levels) until you feel ready for the serious dose. Keeping in mind that the experience peak last less than 10 mn so if things gone wild (which may probably happen at a time or another) you just have to keep in mind : "just be patient, do not do or try anything until the world come back again".
Sure that smoking require some practice but with the good device and technic it is much easier than smoking salvia.

Salvia is also a possible rich but short spiritual experience, however it may generate anxiety while DMT is more positive.

 

[user_1919]

Hive_Node: I would really recommond getting some experience with concious changing drugs. This is my opinion. Have you ever smoked pot? I truly think that you need SOME experience with these substances. Maybe try Ayahuasca first, it contains DMT but you take it in an oral form. This is suppose to be 'lighter' for some, but others report just as profound states achieved through the use of Ayahuasca.

 

[Hive_Node]

Unfourtunately not, I have never done an illegal drug or any of the legal ones (other then Caffeine as a teen). I grew up brainwashed thinking all drugs were bad but then I did some research and found out that just about every drug actually ISN'T as bad as the goverment had made me think (though I still think this of cocaine, crack, meth, heroin). Now my friends are done with all of these substances and it seems I for the most part missed out on drugs. Though I am happy I never started cigarettes or alchohol.

 

[Maru]

DMT smoked is probably one of the more 'safe' drug ever..., short duration, positive side effects (well beeing, relaxing). Which is not the case of most other interresting drugs. Even pot may cause some anxiety and paranoia.

 

[user_1919]

I'm glad you are not another one of those brainwashed idiots. Latly been having long conversations with my mom about mushrooms, it just won't get to her, that these aren't bad substances. I'm still confused how 90% of the population can be so sure about these substances being bad, yet never took the time to research them or even try them!

Thank you for having an open mind.