How is nature so perfect?

[user_1919]

I have been wondering how nature grows it's mushrooms so perfect? In terms of contamination, how does nature avoid the whole subject? There has to be more contaminates outside then there is inside. Mushrooms still grow, looking perfectly normal even if there is comtamination, well at least in my case? One could pick mushrooms in the wild, and never know if the mycleium was contaminated.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[BrainEater]

maybe there are some processes in nature for contaminated liquid / solid / gas.
i am quite sure of it that there are these processes and they automatically try to retain the balance of the planet... also i am quite sure that this balance is really big and therefore to change it / rebalance it, it takes time for nature ... maybe mushrooms are involved in these processes and can therefore contain contamination without you being able to see it?

so what do you think on the "purpose" of mushrooms except of course humans tripping of em

 

[Forkbender]

One word: Isolation.

Lock yourself up for a few days and see how crazy you get.

 

[user_1919]

maybe mushrooms are involved in these processes and can therefore contain contamination without you being able to see it?

Yeah, if you can't see the contamination, the mushrooms could be lethal. I mean, people go picking for mushrooms everyday, and I doubt anyone looks at the mycleim to see if it's contaminated. I just don't get it. The mind behind this whole process.....it's just amazing!

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Lion]

One word: Isolation.

Lock yourself up for a few days and see how crazy you get.

good point

 

[HappyMind]

One word: Isolation.

Lock yourself up for a few days and see how crazy you get.

Also nice to do in the weekend in the middle of the night:

Go (drunk) in an elevator and when he's moving up or down, start jumping (alone of with friends), big chance that you will get stuck somewhere between the 9th and 10th floor. Waiting for a rescue takes hours and hours. You get pretty much insane after a few hours... and if you're been drinking, peeing is also a bit strange in there.

But ok, back to the topic.

 

[Forkbender]

^ Dude.

That was uncalled for.

 

[HappyMind]

I know. But it popped up in my mind. So I shared it.

 

[Forkbender]

LOL

 

[BrainEater]

maybe mushrooms are involved in these processes and can therefore contain contamination without you being able to see it?

Yeah, if you can't see the contamination, the mushrooms could be lethal. I mean, people go picking for mushrooms everyday, and I doubt anyone looks at the mycleim to see if it's contaminated. I just don't get it. The mind behind this whole process.....it's just amazing!

PEACE & LOVE

well the mycelium is the body of the "fungus plant" so... the shrooms are just the "fruits" ... so yeah its in fact an amazing mind behind this process... did you know the biggest known fungus seen as 1 fungus like 1 being has a size of a whole state in germany ...

maybe the mycelium colonies under the earth are the brain of the "earth" ...

peace.

 

[Brugmansia]

The mind behind this whole process.....it's just amazing!

PEACE & LOVE

Did you know there are written two certain books about this subject?

The first one is recently developed and written by Darwin.

The other one is written by twisted minds about two thousand years ago.

 

[endlessness]

when one picks mushrooms, you dont find them on any cow dung..

there are thousands and thousands of cow dungs, where different spores go to and mycelium compete with each other.. Some of them the psychoactive ones win, others not... Thats why.. So yes there is a lot of contamination, but there are so many cow dungs that eventually some will grow

 

[user_1919]

So yes there is a lot of contamination, but there are so many cow dungs that eventually some will grow

But Mushrooms still grow whether or not the cakes are contaminated. So if contaminated mycelium was growing out in nature, it will still produced Mushrooms, how will one ever know if they are safe to eat or not? I have read that contaimination doesn't effect the mushrooms, and you are fine to eat the mushrooms off a contaminated cake, as long as the mushroom itself doesn't have contaminates on it. This seems to make sense to me, because there is so much contaimination out in nature.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[endlessness]

So yes there is a lot of contamination, but there are so many cow dungs that eventually some will grow

But Mushrooms still grow whether or not the cakes are contaminated. So if contaminated mycelium was growing out in nature, it will still produced Mushrooms, how will one ever know if they are safe to eat or not? I have read that contaimination doesn't effect the mushrooms, and you are fine to eat the mushrooms off a contaminated cake, as long as the mushroom itself doesn't have contaminates on it. This seems to make sense to me, because there is so much contaimination out in nature.

PEACE & LOVE

there is no problem to have different mycelium in the same dung.. many times when I go pick mushroom, there are more than one type of species in a single dung, and its no problem at all.. Just pick the right now

if the mushroom itself is fine, thats it

 

[buffachino]

The strains of mushrooms growing outdoors have most likely been doing so in their local vicinity for a long time; they would have built a resistance to and thus advantage over ‘contaminants’ like other fungi such as moulds.

If the mushroom mycelium succeed in fruiting, then it is somewhat safe to say that it overcame the other contenders for the nutrition source that it is feeding from. Thus the mushrooms themselves would be relatively safe to eat, unless of course they have metabolised and stored a dangerous constituent, such as pesticides, or other harmful chemical agents, from the growth medium.

So find out about the local area when you go hunting for mushrooms, so as that you can be aware of possible chemical contamination of the fruiting body.

But if you’re really worried about it; just grow your own.

And yes, nature is perfect.

 

[druglessdouglas]

you never see the ones that dont make it. only the ones that succede

 

[user_1919]

But if you’re really worried about it; just grow your own.

I did. Thats pretty well why I have this topic. I was wondering why in nature is it so perfect, and when we humans do it, its so hard? My cakes developed some type pf gray-ish mold, that is very minute. Some parts of my cakes were not fully covered in myclieum, so they were prone to infection. They developed a grayish mold where there was no myclieum, and now the cakes are fruiting, and I can hardly find the contamination. I believe if the contamination was bad enough; well enough to physically harm a human being, the cake would have the be covered in the contamination, but the cakes are WAY more mycleium. And the information I am gathering leads me to believe that if the contamination took over the cake, mushrooms would not sprout, but in my case mushrooms are sprouting very rapidly. I think I am going to eat a gram, see if I get sick or
not; this way I can prepare for a nice 7 gram trip after highschool finishes.

Does anyone have experience growing/eating Cambodian Mushrooms; the site said they were realitivly potent, but they are Cubensis, so I tend to just classify them as normal.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[GOD]

This is ment as info and its not ment to hurt anyone .

"In terms of contamination, how does nature avoid the whole subject?"

This is like the guy who said that the bio diversity in the rain forest would prevent the people there discovering Ayahuasca . How do YOU grow and avoid contamination ???? Everything is contaminated its just a question of to what level . People have been collecting and eating mushrooms since the begining and humanity hasnt wiped itself out with them = natural balance of the individual components of a closed system . But it is a wonder .

"Go (drunk) in an elevator and when he's moving up or down, start jumping (alone of with friends), big chance that you will get stuck somewhere between the 9th and 10th floor. Waiting for a rescue takes hours and hours. You get pretty much insane after a few hours... and if you're been drinking, peeing is also a bit strange in there."

I think that thats a good idea . Most people SHIT out BIG when they cant controll their lives = they meet reality for the first time . If you ever go to prison you will see all the "men" crying when they first come in . I got three days solitary once and on the third day i barikaded myself in and stayed another week just to show them where they could stick their superiority and control . They didnt try it again .

The biggest known mushroom is a Halimasch ( Spelling ??? ) in America . I think its in Oregon but they keep arguing about it so maybe its in Yosemite ???

"when one picks mushrooms, you dont find them on any cow dung.. "

I dont understand...... Cubensis grow on cow shit , so do other mushrooms .

" Mushrooms still grow whether or not the cakes are contaminated"

Not always . How do we know which ones didnt grow ????? Just because there are loads of children around it doesnt mean that non are born dead or aborted does it ???

"how will one ever know if they are safe to eat or not?"

We live in an unsterile world . How often do people get the shits = food poisoning ??? = its extremely common .

"I have read that contaimination doesn't effect the mushrooms, and you are fine to eat the mushrooms off a contaminated cake, as long as the mushroom itself doesn't have contaminates on it."

Dont read idiotic DANGEROUS shit like that .

"there is no problem to have different mycelium in the same dung.. many times when I go pick mushroom, there are more than one type of species in a single dung, and its no problem at all.. Just pick the right now "

HEY WOW !!! One can pick round contamination !!!!! You are sure to get a nobel prize for that . Someone that can SEE microbes and spores and avoid thgem !!!! Try cutting the mold of bread or cheese = YOU CANT . You only cut out the visible part .

WE AVOID ALL CONTAMINATION AND THROW ALL CONTAMINATED CAKES AWAY or do we want to DIE ????? Remember the curse of Tutanchkamun ???? Are you all idiots speculating about being able to eat round the contaminated bits !!!!

Cubensis = cubensis , everything else is comercial adverts .

" and when we humans do it, its so hard?"

Its not hard , its dead easy....... Just stop listening to idiots and believing everything you read on mushroom sharlatan web sites ....... and learn to do it properly .

"I think I am going to eat a gram, see if I get sick or not; "

Or die ????

People , stop talking dangerous crap !!!!

 

[user_1919]

Or die ????

People , stop talking dangerous crap !!!!

Thanks GOD. Ok, my situation is that I cannot even find the contamination anymore. If I break open the cake, and find no contamination, does that mean the mycleium won the battle and they are fine to eat? The cakes are producing beautiful mushrooms, and it would be very sad to throw these cakes away, because I cannot find any traces of contamination. About 1.5 weeks ago, I took a Q-tip to the 'contamination' to see if any of the spores would leave the 'contamination', and nothing came off, so I picked out the one spot where it was, and there seems to be nothing left.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[GOD]

High User ,

" does that mean the mycleium won the battle and they are fine to eat? "

NO . WE THROW ALL CONTAMINATION AWAY . ALWAYS . Or we end up cultivating contaminants .

"it would be very sad to throw these cakes away, "

It would be sad if you died......

"because I cannot find any traces of contamination."

It was there , it could still be there . Better safe than sorry . Dont pick at it , dont play with it THROW IT UNOPENED AWAY .

Can you see bacteria ? Or mold spores ?


The question was / is :- What can i do to protect my cultures from flys that is more effective than sterilisation ?????

The answer is so simple its embarasing ....... but most growers havent sussed it out .