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Hevenly Blue MG Trip Report (first timer)

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I've never tripped before now, in fact I never have done any drugs before.. not even perscription. Some vodka here and there is it for me. My reason for the MG's is spirital not just to get high. That said --

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First Time Trip Report
Sept 9 2007

9:00 PM - Counted and ground up 405 seeds in coffee grinder (twice), consistency ranged between flour and beach sand (shitty grinder). Added to 20 Oz. Gatorade bottle with filtered tap water. Shook and stored in fridge.

11:00 PM - Took 500mg time release vitamin C pill

11:45 PM - Removed from Fridge, shook and let sit for 5 mins. Shook Again, filtered 10 oz through super fine brass reusable coffee filter into glass. Took 50mg Dramamine.

12:00 PM - T+ 0:00 - Drank 1/2 of glass (10 oz) to test effects and see if im alergic. (NO TASTE AT ALL, NONE)

12:10 PM - T+ 0:10 - Drank rest of glass. (6 oz), Filtered remainder of gatorade bottle into glass.

12:15 PM - T+ 0:15 - Filtering finished. Put seed mash back into gatorade bottle and filled half way with more filtered water. Shook vigorously.

12:20 PM - T+ 0:20 - Filtered rest of gatorade bottle into glass and drank. (Total water used ~30 oz) Disgarded seed mash.

12:45 PM - T+ 0:45 - Started feeling nausea, thought maybe seeds were treated though labled untreated, regreted not washing them just in case.

1:15 PM - T+ 1:15 - Still feeling nothing but nausea, laid down several times on floor, walked around.

1:30 PM - T+ 1:30 - Started feeling intoxicated, about the equialent of 4 drinks. Laid down for nausea.

1:35 PM - T+ 1:35 - Perception becoming distorted, no visuals at all. Night vision increased significantly.

1:45 PM - T+ 1:45 - Checked my little clock, has glow in the dark hands, cannot see at ALL until its 3 inches from my face

2:15 PM - T+ 2:15 - 3 feet from my little trip clock the hands blinked and pulsed randomly as I tried to focus on it.

At this point it started kicking in pretty good and I cant be sure of times, from here out their guesses.
My memory of most everything is subjective as its all broken up in my head, wish I wrote this last night.

T+ ~2:30 - Took walk around house, everything looked normal but VERY quiet. No sounds what so ever, if you had droped a pin 10 feet away I could hear it I was so focused. Checked reflection in bathroom mirror, pupils dilated(problably just due to darkness), when I stuck out my head to look in my eyes it looked like my head wasn't attached to my body, became very uneasy looking at myself, almost like it was an evil looking back at me. Went back to lay down.

T+ ?:?? - Listened to some Pink Floyd, songs I would never listen to had new meaning, with my eyes closed everything he sung about painted a picture in my head.

T+ ?:?? - Sometime later, maybe 5-10 songs, nausea disappears entirely but music sounds like crap, got up again, played with black light, everytime I close my eyes I see a story playing in my head. In living room everything seemed normal but as it turns out inspecting the same area the next day, everything I saw was much sharper. Shadows that are almost blended on the walls were now very sharp and defined, everything seemed more focused. Tried to go into my front room but the computer out there freightened me, tried several times but felt uneasy around it, decided not to try anymore.

T+ ?:?? - Inspected myself again in the mirror, still unnerved by what I see. Went to lay down again.

T+ ?:?? - Unable to sleep, laid in bed for unknown time watching the little story play out, opened eyes periodically to see if there was anything happeneing, still no OEV's, figured I already plateaued.

Eventually fell asleep, woke up at 9:30 next morning feeling a little groggy but rested. All effects completely gone.

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I felt like because of the small dose of LSA due to the inconsistent grind and heating of seeds combined with poor filtering I could have gotten a lot more out of this. I was looking for something enlightening and really ended up just being intoxicated.

Tips for next time, use 600-700 seeds and grind slower and more throughly over an hour. Use Bottled water. Filter through cotton filter and shake and chill for about 3 hours. Possibly add ginger this time. Hopefully the better coffee filter will cut down on the nausea. Either that or just eat the seed mash and vomit, better than fighting it, fighting it ruins the experience.

May try this again sometime this week. Not at night this time, nighttime is scarry for a first trip.

Something else to note, I didn't feel any of those other side effects that people mention like pain in the extremities or headaches but there was a moderate body load and my feet felt a bit cold.
 
LSA never gave me spiritual trips, all it does is get me high. Although the thought patterns sometimes resemble LSD's, they don't have any valuable content.
 
I wasn't aware of that, dozens of trip reports on erowid seem to have people learning a great deal about themselves. I was under the impression they were used by the Aztec's under the name tlitliltzin.

If not though is there anything legal that would have those effects then besides say a quid of salvia which I'm going to grow myself soon. I'm in california, lots of things aren't allowed here.
 
I've tried LSA ones, took 8 seeds of HBWR but didn't have any effects at all. I think mushrooms would do the trick if you want to have safe spiritual experience without getting yourself intoxicated. But mushrooms aren't legal in California I guess?
 
As I understand it you cant even order spores here for anything containing Psilocybin. Fly agaric is legal I suppose but I heard that has a lot of terrible side effects and I'm not familiar with them or their safe use.
 
Amanita Muscaria takes a long time to appreciate. About a year ago I decided to follow the holy path of the Amanita.

Only recently I have began to really appreciate its influenza like delirium.
 
Traditionally Ololohuiqui and MG seeds were ground by women I believe, a virgin by preference. Only then would the spirit show itself to the user, next time let your young sister grind the seeds ;)

@ DevXavier: Can you tell me more about Amanita Muscaria? Do you buy it from the shop or do you search for them in the wild?
I tried Amanita powder a while ago, about 12 grams I think, but nothing happened. Do you think it doesn't want to have anything to do with me, was it the dosage, or was it just a weak specimen? Please tell me more.
 
I'm an only child, so here's my lil sis :) I'm getting a somewhat consistent grind this time because I'm not hurring, short bursts every couple minutes.

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I would also like to know more about Amanita, there's reports up the yinyang about 2 1/2 - 3 caps putting people in the hospital.
 
I'm eyeballing it here but its 600 seeds, looks like about 15 grams, there's some larger seed skins from the last 20 or so seeds that wouldn't go through so I left it on full blast and it sorta did that. Otherwise, its somewhere between sugar and powdered sugar.
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Well im definitely not happy with the result. I filtered through cotten coffee filters and it filters aprox 1/2 an oz and the filter wont flow anymore, left it for 4 hours and only dripped once. Tried with paper filters, wont flow at all. All in all I lost more than 25% of the material and I suspect it was all the LSA cought in the 5 or 6 cotten filters. The end result could not be distinguished visually from lipton tea. I resorted to using my fine weave brass filter but thats the one I used before that got me all nausious.

What do you guys use to filter?
 
Why don't you try to make a tincture?
Another method to prevent becoming nausious is to hold the ground material in your mouth until the effects start to kick in, I never tried that before, but I know some people who swear by that method, I guess that only works for HB Woodrose though.
What I use for a filter is just a towel, or a piece of cloth.
 
GABA agonists aren't deliriants, per se... (referring to Amanita post)
 
I'll not be mello dramatic about it and just try it and see how it came out. For the seed bits in the mouth, I'm gonna have to give that one a maybe. 15g is a lot of material, and it needs to be specifically ground much coarser for that, the way I got it if you inhaled you'd get a hit of it.

I really think my brass filter gets a whole lot more than a towel would but I keep reading people using coffee filters, I call BS on that.
 
i always wash them off and chew them + a glass of water on a almost empty stomach.
i did them more than 15 times. and its the best way for me.
if you eat them it is a WAYYY stronger than making tea of them. but there are more side effects, like puking and cramps in legs ore stomach.
i never take more than 200 this way ore its WAYYY too strong on the nasty side of the trip.

start to (eat) 50 first this way. the trips lasts like 6 to 12 hours,(like lsd)
and you cant eat them every day ore it has no effects( like shrooms and lsd)

thats all i know.
 
Rymmen a dit:
GABA agonists aren't deliriants, per se... (referring to Amanita post)

Amanita always makes me deliriant, it's pretty well known to that.

I will make a big post in a new topic in a few days, when I find the time, about my findings with Amanita.
 
I drank that super powerful grind I made today at 7AM. I'll just say this, there's nothing spirtual in the MG seed period. Nausea you cant throw up for 4 hours. At peek using the scale I was at a +3 because it was not possible to do anything remotely productive at that point, but the whole experience was quite lame. In exchange for a few hours of enhanced clarity and emphaty, its a few hours of almost throwing up and being judged harshly by people who dont -get- it. Mix was too powerful too, still coming down at 5PM.

MG 2 / Serial 0

think I'm done with these
 
DevXavier obviously knows what he is talking about from experience , he said it all . Morning glory seeds area waste of time so is fly agaric . Try psilocybin mushrooms and you will never do such pointless shit again .
 
I dont agree with you guys...

I've had the best times of my life on LSA seeds :D
Just like a lot of pure MDMA, very introspective, happy and a few visuals.
No sickness at all, just very sedative..
I could remember all my dreams from years ago, everything was funny, clear, meaningfull..

It all depends on the way you extract i guess, btw i used the azarius Bliss Balls twice with great succes.. But for more information on the way to extract you can read here for example:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/misc-entheogens/13948-lucid-visual-morning-glory-lsa-extracts.html

Don't discard lsa seeds, they have a lot of potential.. People don't say it feels like LSD for nothing "I felt the oneness I do on LSD and the connection to nature I do on mushrooms". Anyway, i hope my next time will be as good as my former.

(btw, one small hit of salvia leaves send me to the other side of the galaxy while on a light LSA trip. I opens some pathways in my head or something... Just like the dream memories.)
 
Just smoke some weed with it, for me it like activates the mg seeds. Don't expect too much from morning glory seeds they'll get you high but you'll need to be able to recognize it;s effects.
 
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