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[GOD]

"Imaginary people talking to cornflake packets? ............ all the voices in my head say im sane......"

Hmm!!! Maybe it was a real guy with an imaginary cornflakes packet ???????

Maybe we should move these imaginary cornflakes to the fasting thread............

 

[Forkbender]

"your seeing what you think"

EXACTLY .

+1

 

[Meduzz]

"you're seeing what you think"

It's the most logic assumption and I tend to believe it, but how can we know how much comes from within and how much comes from outside when boundaries dissolve?

(never saw any elves tho... I once saw little cacti people dancing, but it was more an amusing visual rather than a meeting with an entity.)

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Self-transforming machine-elves producing self-dribbling basketballs as gifts, that's how someone described them who took three long, slow inhalations of DMT.

McKenna never believed in elves prior to taking DMT, he didn't expect them to show up on DMT, and yet they did.

I haven't managed to reach those levels yet. I've done one long, slow inhalation once, which took me quite far, but I don't remember seeing any entities. But judging from Rick Strassman's work, if you simply get the dosage right, you will see entities of some sort.

 

[magickmumu]

Sometimes on mushrooms or ayahuasca I see, hear and feel spirits.
Last Friday I took some good mushrooms combined with passionflower.
My room was again full of spirits. One of these spirits (a white spirit with long spidery legs) pulled up a pillow and suggested that I hide under it. Of course I didn't hide under it.
The spirits that I encounter sometimes want to come into my body to give me power.
Last Friday a healing spirit entered my body. I could not sit down. When I sat down, I was overwhelmed by it all. So I had to stand up. I was shaking and huffing and puffing. I had a hard time controlling these energies. Eventually the trip ended and I could sit down and relax.

A very good trip

 

[Elfinn]

if the elves and entities encountered while under the dome
are expressions and thoughts of ---t h e o t h e r-------
who is --t h e o t h e r--??

Our higher selves suspended in hyperspace?

What is hour higher self?

I have met alien on mushrooms
and i know i wasnt thinking it up
my brain was in an profound amazement
lost of thought and there was this
communication,i heard electronic -circuit "noise"
like in telephone modems
coming and going with the import of vision.
and i was reassured,convinced
that spirit world is inhabited by live beings
not made up of mind
but of spirit with its own life
here to teach us in our
narrow-minded perception of reality
that spirit world is in fact the real world
and the only place in wich one may
encounter freed beings
who has information beyond our
slave mentality . (hampered understanding of the mind)

i have encountered the dead people
and remembered being amazed and taken by their liveliness
and sense of humour.
i have learned things from friends in dark places
alone on mushrooms they come to me
and my room is gently filled with visitors
from t h e o t h e r shore.

T H E R E I S An O T H E R W O R L D

That giggles over our fixed perception
and feeling of time

the giggeling and the jolleyness
is the proof that we need to
let go of our religion

(thats me in the corner,thats me in the spotlight,loo...)

 

[BrainEater]

it depends!


Sometimes the other is everything. (for you)
Sometimes you are everything. (for the other)
Sometimes you are the other.
Sometimes the other is you.


Sometimes FEAR is in between.
Sometimes LOVE is in between.

Sometimes there is no need to doubt.



Sorry if that doesn't explain anything, but maybe this concept makes it clearer for you ???

Moreover it doesn't matter whether spirits are alive or dead??? ( i mean really alive or dead) As "dead" spirits simply lack a body??? So why be afraid of "dead" spirits that don't exist "manifested" in this world???

"The spirit world is in fact the real world."

Yes. Tis is true. Yet it is not, as it is only a layer of the "real world" and
therefore a part of it.


"....and the only place in wich one may
encounter freed beings
who has information beyond our
slave mentality."


Tis may be true. Yet you are right in a way, because freed beings who have information beyond our slave mentality are more likely to be met in the spirit world than in the "real world", simply because in the "real world" (whatever that might be) the amount of "freed beings" (whatever that might be) diminishes every second.

Also the opposite seems to be true, that the amount of "freed beings" gets bigger every second.

But then... in total ... are more people freed or more people enslaved ???
Does it really matter as long as there is a balance???



Peace!

 

[Elfinn]

yes very good point.
i sometimes get unbalanced by listening to enslaved beings
who somehow manages to enslave me as well
it is like a tatoo on the brain.
then i feel time for medicine
to meet with freed beings again
and learn to live in happiness.

s

 

[BrainEater]

yes, me too...


the worst thing for me is that i most often don't even realize getting unbalanced and sometimes even get enslaved, too, without noticing...


but let me tell you one of the most important and most beautiful laws of the universe, which has to be respected, by every being.

it says:

"If you want to enslave another being for your service (whatever service), the other being has to be asked and agree it's own enslavement, otherwise you won't be able to enslave this being, simply because FREE WILL is not restricted."

My comment on this: If someone makes another one a slave, but for some reason he doesn't ask whether his future slave really wants to be "his future slave", then his future slave might not have had the choice to decide if he really wanted to be his future slave, because he was not asked ...

So!!!!! If you feel enslaved and if you feel that you have not been asked to agree your own enslavement stand up for your right!!! It is everyone's right, because it is a law of the universe!

Peace.

 

[Elfinn]

I like the way you eat my brain.

i like that law of respect.

I have an example of enslaving beings

telephone sales people
they have my number and my name
wich is part of my energy system
and they can tap into it anytime they feel an impulse to destroy.
destructive tendencies within enslaved beings is a well known phenomena
and should be understood as a cry for help
But these people does not help themselves
they want to be punished by the right fatherly or motherly person
on the other line
so,i guess this enslavement could have a nasty sexual Oedipuss
overtone,and is an arhetype within society.
so because i enjoy freed beings
i naturally attract opposite energies to my orb
for me to wrestle and in the end be triumphant.
Like Jim,the duke of shaman rock said so well
My only friend,the end.
Can you picture what well be
so limitless and free

 

[Psyolopher]

I saw many creatures with LSD outside in Nature during the night!
Once there was an elf teasing me, he was more curious...only wandering by!
he was abit...creepy actually!

But then i saw these little curious creatures, and my friend(who was not tripping)
Saw it aswell! =)
They were really small, but afraid!

Pretty sweet!

 

[Telico]

But judging from Rick Strassman's work, if you simply get the dosage right, you will see entities of some sort.

Yes but all the Strassman's volunteers were psychedelic enthusiasts and often believing in religions like the Wiccan one.

However, he also precised that DMT injections on psychotic patients durint the 50's have led to trip reports showing that patients talked about contact with entities, more precisely "orange people".

EDIT : I've stumbled upon this, by James Kent, it's quite interesting ==> http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?id=dmt_pickover

 

[tryptonaut]

es but all the Strassman's volunteers were psychedelic enthusiasts and often believing in religions like the Wiccan one.

Really? I think at least 50% of his volunteers were totally non-spiritual. I mean he is a serious scientist and probably didn't chose only people who believed in weird religiions. Although he was a serious scientist enough to chose people with at least a little bit of psychedelic experience.

As far as I read his book he was totally confused with how many people had something like an extraterrestrial experience rather than a spiritual enlightening (which he was hoping for as a buddhist).

 

[GOD]

Interesting link Telico . I will enjoy reading that .

 

[magickmumu]

Well this is interesting. Reality is what you make it, that's my philosophy.
I have encountered different things that could be called entities, while tripping on mushrooms and ayahuasca.

When I meet these entities it feels very real. For me at that moment it is real.
The next morning when the trip is over I rationalize these meetings
My attitude towards these experience is open mindedness.

When I am actually having these experiences I am to busy dealing with them to worry if these hallucinations are real. Sometimes these entities talk to me or do something to me.
Sometimes they want to give me something.
Sometimes animals appear, usually snakes. Whenever I see snakes I know I going in the right direction.

This whole psychedelic entity thing is something very personal. Some people believe in a explanation for it all, I tend to keep an open mind.
To me it is a mystery and I am trying to figure out how to work with it.
:snakeman:

 

[druglessdouglas]

ive met entities in the woods at night. a friend and myself set out to meet faeries and studied faerie lore. eventually we "met" entities of some sort but they were not like the stories. something screamed at us- a noise no human could make. something else -about 3-4m in height- crashed through the woods at us pushing small trees down as it came. it then (we both agreed after) read our minds with a red laser like beam. it felt like my mind was emptied of everything. i also got the impression it was not happy with what it found. what happened was more like the stories you hear of alien abduction than a faerie story. although we were on huge quantities of mushrooms it was far from the biggest dose id taken at night in the woods. we left the faeries alone after that

 

[GOD]

Sounds like a good strong trip .

 

[druglessdouglas]

very strong. it was only ~80g each, lol. but it was unique in the experiences seemed real and external.

 

[GOD]

"the experiences seemed real and external."

I`ve had ones like those to . Snow white and the 7000 dwarves all with broad swords , double axes and dracula teeth jumped out from behind trees while i was pissing in the woods . Much to peoples surprise i came running out of the woods with my dick in my hand . It was full moon though .

 

[druglessdouglas]

it was fool moon on the night i mentioned. it seems to help
actually i just realised i lied. it was 80g between 2 of us