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Dutch rasist banned from entering the UK

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Heres an example that even thick and slimey people should understand about how words are used and the difference between that and their strict definitions .

Many people call negros black but they arent they are different shades of brown .
 
anti-arab sentiment and racial profiling has never been higher. all you have to do is look middle-eastern to face discrimination everyday

this movie doesn't convey any criticisms of islam. it cherry-picks random quotes and video images to cash in on xenophobia and fear of muslims (omg the muslims are taking over next week they'll be killing women in the streets) and even worse portray muslims as inhuman monsters. it uses every technique in the propaganda 101 rulebook. it's exploitational, it's bullshit, it's hateful and it's wrong.
 
GOD a dit:
I wasnt talking to you . When i wrote my post yours wasnt there . You should stop playing word games to .
I already said I'm not here to play games. And I'm always concerned with using the right words, so as to minimize miscommunication. Isn't anti-Islamicist a much more appropriate word than racist?

Most people ? Maybe in your "world" . How big is your "world" ? , where have you been ? , where does your "experience" of life come from ? An armchair ?
Well, in fact I heard the word racism most of the time sitting on the couch, watching TV. Again: I'm not playing word games here. Whenever I and my classmates were told about racism, it was about Apartheid, the Ku Klux Clan, neo-nazis etc. It's a very loaded term, which may be why you prefer it. Who's really playing word games here?

The apartheid / rasism wasnt just aimed at negros it was also aimed at what are known there as coloured people = part negro and part "white" .
Which still means they are discriminated against because of the color of their skin. That's true racism, because what is objected to is the "part negro". Racism always refers to something you can't change: race, skin colour, country of birth etc.

Again , tell us where you have been in the world ? Or is your "experience" just armchair philosophy .
I have already told my life story many times. It involved lots of countries and meeting people from all over the world, and from many cultural and religious backgrounds. Maybe I never was a muslim like you, and could therefore be labeled an armchair philosopher, but at least in this discussion I've been making much more sense than you.
 
st.bot.32 a dit:
this movie doesn't convey any criticisms of islam. it cherry-picks random quotes and video images to cash in on xenophobia and fear of muslims
That was more or less my impression as well when I first saw it. It was a clear case of "the book was better than the movie". The book being "Islam unveiled" which I had read a couple of months before I saw Fitna.
 
I think it's closeminded from the English government to not let him in. The same with the lawsuit against him in Holland.

I'm not a fan of his thoughts and political statements, but I think you should debate with him, instead of forbidding him to enter the country or taking him to court.

The arguments used for both actions are unfunded and should be "not-done" in a liberal society as ours.
 
GOD a dit:
Heres an example that even thick and slimey people should understand about how words are used and the difference between that and their strict definitions .
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It's completely ridiculous that Geert Wilders cannot enter the UK.

He's in the Dutch parliament because Dutch citizens took their right to vote and they voted for him.

EU citizens can travel within the EU without any borders.

If the UK doesn't let Geert Wilders in, they put a bomb below democracy. And they give the finger to the EU.

In my opinion the Dutch prime minister should take Geert Wilders by the hand, take a flight to the UK and demand that that little bastard can enter their country. Fist on the table!

Do I agree with Geert Wilders > uuhhhh no.... but what the UK is doing is freakin' nuts.
 
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