Did I screw up too? lol

[xx13w7xx]

I am following the QT extraction method found at erowid, with slight modifications

Day 1 : a.) Ground 114G MHRB in a coffee grinder.
b.) mixed distilled water with muriatic acid to ph 2
c.) Combined ground MHRB with acid and capped.
d.) Warm water bath for 30 min
e.) Stored for three days Jar (A)

Day 4 : a.) filtered MHRB with a wire strainer and collected in Jar (B)
b.) refilled Jar (A) with Acid solution, capped and stored for three days

Day 7 : a.) filtered MHRB with a wire strainer and collected in Jar (B)
b.) refilled Jar (A) with Acid solution, capped and stored for three days

Day 10 : a.) filtered MHRB with a wire strainer and collected in Jar (B)
b.) tossed out MHRB remains
c.) Double filtered Jar (B) with coffee fillters, now i had a pure dark red acid solution.
d.) Added equal part naptha to acid and SHOOK!

Day 11 : a.) Pink sludge in naptha layer, assuming fat? I thought MHRB had no fat? guess not?
b.) Discarded naptha layer
c.) Added fresh naptha layer and SHOOK!
d.) Mixed up some NaOH with distilled water to PH 12
e.) Added Base solution slowly using a glass dropper, trying to avoid heat, which never occured.... as i added the base, the solution slowly started to turn gray.... which was found to be the case with one another sucessful extraction found at the bottom of QT's method on erowid.

But is this normal??? It does not seem normal to me as there is like a gray sludge mixed in with the naptha layer.. Is that more fat? Can I suck out the clear naptha and evap that? I thought defatting once would be enough for MHRB? Help!

 

[xx13w7xx]

Thought...

Can I filter the fat with a coffee filter? If it really is fat?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Yeah probably just emulsion, filtering might help... but I would just get the naphta on the top , and perhaps let it settle a while...

 

[xx13w7xx]

Yea, I really do hope its just emulsion. although now it has been 48 hours with barely any settling, I might add a salt solution to it... I took a picture of my jar, unfortunatly with my iphone cause my girlfriend has my good digi...

Does it look like anyone elses experience with an extraction?

 

[xx13w7xx]

Yea, I really do hope its just emulsion. although now it has been 48 hours with barely any settling, I might add a salt solution to it... I took a picture of my jar, unfortunatly with my iphone cause my girlfriend has my good digi...

Does it look like anyone elses experience with an extraction?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Umm whats that brown layer on top of the naphta ? :?

 

[GOD]

Its fats / way / grease / slime . Please dont anyone say it doesnt have those things . Who gives a fuck what its called but there is shit that needs separating off . I didnt read the whole post but its probably brown because the PH was to high . Be prepared that you might have a very small return now . It has to be done as fast as posible as it doesnt like high or low PHs . And always defat even if the method says you dont have to . Let the layers separate and be a bit tigh about what you separate off . Never shake always swirl = no emultion .



PH meters are DELICATE . If they come into contact with some solvents it fucks them .

 

[xx13w7xx]

OK, so i didnt defat enough/ ph ~11/ and i have an emulsion that wont separate...

what could i do to save what i have?

should i filter it?.. add some acid to lower the ph?

is this even salvageable?

 

[GOD]

3 days is to long . The wire strainer wasnt a good idea . The PH was to low .You didnt need the warm water bath , that might have helped to extract more gunge . Never shake it , swirl it . 48 hours is much to long .

How do you measure your PH ?

You have got to the point where you should add naptha and swirl , let stand till it separates , separate off the naptha leaving water and gunge behind , 3 times , then throw water + gunge away and put naptha mix in fridge .


Be prepared to harvest nada..........

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Well try to evaporate a little of the clear and filtered naphta and see what comes out...

Then you can try doing other things to it... SWIM did it, and dipped his ph meter many times in naphta and never had any problems with it, I guess it depends on the brands, it always remained accurate.

SWIM also defatted only once and never had this kind of mess... rootbark dosen't contain much fat if you think about it...

Thats really strange if you ask me !

 

[GOD]

Oh GOD another mystery !!!!! Could this lead to another inter-galactic war ????????

 

[xx13w7xx]

...dang!

hmmm... seems to me its time to order a new batch of mhrb and start from square one... do u think 24 hr extraction times are long enough? @ ph 3? 4?
..ill also use a cotton filter, not a wire strainer right?
..and im using litmus papers to test the ph..

also what are the pros and cons of evaping the naptha in ambient temperature vs the freezer?

 

[xx13w7xx]

also, im going to try and filter this mud ive created through a cotton filter today... ill let you guys know what happens, if anything at all.

 

[xx13w7xx]

@ GOD, Im sure you are getting frustrated with my shananigans, sorry lol but in a post you have said that

"I dont know which extraction method is the most eficient . I do know wich is faster , easyer , safer and cheeper ."

So have you written a lab write up for your preferred method? Because now that I've done more research on dmt extractions it seems that this is can be a very sensitive procedure if you are not precise enough.

If you havent written one, is there anyway you could write one?

 

[xx13w7xx]

OK! sooo!

I filtered, and the shit is so thick it wouldnt fucken filter...
so i tested the PH, and it looked more like ~8 then ~12

i mixed up some damn Sodium Hydroxide and poured that shit into my GLOB of GRAY GOO! and BAM! it immediately turned dark brownish red and there were nice orange bubble and naphtha appeared before my eyes

I've got now about a solid 1/2 in a baking sheet evaporating...

ill keep ya updated if it crystallizes...

**Crossing Fingers**

-PEACE!!!

 

[GOD]

I cant think straight at the moment as my daughter has gone AWOL , AGAIN and i`m worried out if my mind about why she isnt contacting me .

First , dont throw anything away . First try to solve the problem you have and gain experience from it . Also next time dont throw the starting material away untill you have totaly finished and have got the goodys . If one doesnt totaly fuck it all up the goods are still in there somewhere . Second look for other Teks and read them so that you get a comprehensive understanding of what is / can happen and why . Third , either look at how other people use litmus paper to suss PH 13 , as litmus paper only goes up to 10 . Or get ( = aquire.....GOD laughs ) yourself a PH meter . Fourth , get to know SWIM and get him to do all the work for you .

I dont know about cotton filters in this case . Do you know what gun cotton is ? Dont worry i`m jokeing...........

Also please remember that sub-humans from the forces of evil can see what is being written here if they can read and if they are having a beak in goooogle . We are not alone .



C`mon peeps give your opinions , this isnt a one man show .

 

[Forkbender]

Fourth , get to know SWIM and get him to do all the work for you .

He does do a lot of things, this SWIM guy.

 

[IJesusChrist]

I would just say your pH is too low... it really doesn't need to be anywhere near 2... thats all I got for you bud