Big Brother IS Watching You

[GOD]

The Occult Technology of Power

"The most secret knowledge, a science which outdates history, is the science of control over people, governments and civilizations. The foundation of this ultimate discipline is the control of wealth. Through the control of wealth comes the control of public information and the necessities of life. Through the control of news media comes thought control. Through the control of basic necessities comes direct physical control of people."

"How much easier it is for us, the inheritors of a fully developed state-capitalist system! By appealing to "national security" we are able to finance and erect secret societies of a colossal scope, far beyond the wildest dreams of our path breaking predecessors. Besides the benefits of public financing reaped by these "nationalized secret societies," we obtain a decisive advantage from the fact that these our "spook" operations are sanctioned by law!

Maintaining discipline, loyalty, and secrecy is no longer solely a matter of propaganda, blackmail, patronage, and intimidation. Although these remain important tools, especially in emergency cases,ordinary discipline among initiates (now called agents) can be encouraged by appealing to patriotism and can be enforced in courts of law by prosecuting "national security violations.

As massive as our intelligence community has become in itself, we still operate strictly on the finance capitalist principle of leverage. Just as a rational finance capitalist never owns more stock in a corporation than the bare minimum required for control, intelligence operatives are placed only in as many key positions as are required to control the target organizations. Our goal, after all, is agent control of all significant organizations, not intelligence community member ship for the entire population."


http://www.geocities.com/johnfkosanke/occult.htm

Found in WIKIPEDIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal

 

[GOD]

I have just seen a TV documentary program where they visited a secret government computer observation organisation in america . The interviewed a profesor that runs it with 16 students . They have one of the worlds bigest / fastest computers and have written a special program to watch the whole of the internet live . He said that they watch 500,000,000 web adresses at the same time and all Emails . They have profiles of everyone who uses those media . They use a program to identify users wich can use between 20 and 30,000 characteristics and claim to be able to identify any user , even if he uses a diferent computer , internet conection or tries to disguise himself .

I was on a web site a few days ago where the people who run it check every user , they said that 4% of all their visitors use american military internet conections .

The mormons in Salt Lake City have geneology records of every person that they can prove lives and has lived and are always trying to enlarge their records .

 

[trick]

Im starting to realize as i get older and lear more about all of this stuff that America is deffinatly NOT a afree country. For what reason is it nessassary for them to be doing all of this [not the croud control i can kinda understand that]...

 

[buffachino]

There free in that they will let the highest bidder do whatever the fuck they want with impunity.

 

[GOD]

Total control means having to have the bigger picture .

 

[Meduzz]

this control is just a side effect of society.

we NEED resources that are provided to us trough our complex society, in exchange for this, we give up certain liberties.

humans are lazy, they will participate in society because it makes all physical needs easier.

it's like plugging in into the matrix and go with the system.

of course, with this loss of liberty, our MENTAL needs are endangered. we are even loosing freedom of tought.

sad sad but inevitable

 

[GOD]

Trading greed for total controle = mental castration and slavery .

 

[tryptonaut]

The worst thing about it is that every revolution so far in human history has led to another dominator culture, be it openly dominant, or secretly like the US today. Maybe we are just not meant to be free. And looking at the amount of dumbness in this world, I just can't imagine everyone to be part of a perfectly free society. I think Hinduism and Buddhism have so far been the best means to force people into peaceful living - I think we have to give up thinking that all people are alike and all want to be free. The thought of forcing people into happiness should not be outlawed. The founding fathers of the United States did it, and it worked quite well. I mean seen from where they came from, the US was a major step in the history of mankind, away from kings, queens and slavery. Now that the political system of the US is, as every other country in the world, being undermined by corporate greed, we should consider a way of forcing people back to where they can all be happy. And that sentence now has probably brought up all the blinking lights in the agencies ("forcing? happiness? Hey, we got another terrorist activity there!")

 

[GOD]

The German government has a "Joint Internet Center" ( GIZ = Gemeinsamen Internetzentrum ) in Berlin where 30 computer experts from the BKA ( The German FBI ) , BND and BFS ( The German inland and foreign secret services ) , MAD ( The German military secret service ) and the German state prosecuters office watch the internet .

The German government anounced earlyer this year that they could search any online computer to spy out all your passwords , search your computer and monitor every thing that you do without the user knowing about it or being able to do anything about it . They say that it does not matter what security measures a user uses nothing can stop them or detect them doing it . This means that they can put either a kernal mode root kit or something similar on an online computer and use it in the background . They anounced it because they are trying to change the law so that they can do it legaly . Anyone who looks at history knows that anytime a government has had the chance to do anything that they have done it weather it was legal or illegal . This atempt to change the law is to allow the results of a computer breakin legaly useable as evidence in courts . If the German government can do it any government can do it .

"Maybe we are just not meant to be free."

When i was a kid old people used to say "If god wanted people to fly he`d have given them wings" . Evolution means going forwards , improving .

"And looking at the amount of dumbness in this world, I just can't imagine everyone to be part of a perfectly free society."

Kids have a greedy selfish egoistic little animal phase , untill we teach most of them that its not a strategy that gets them any fans , respect or good results later in life . Evolution means going forwards , improving . Its like learning to walk or ride a bike . Trying over and over again till it works , no mater how many times we fall . People usualy burn their fingers a limited amount of times and then they learn , evolution can be held back a while , but eventualy the human spirit will win .

"Hinduism and Buddhism"

Thats called fatalism , or giving up . Acepting slavery and injustice = castrating our selves . Never give up , never surender if you know its right . Fatalism is the product of depression , i`m not going to let anyone make me give up . Thats what faith , believing is for . If people hadent have had dreams we would still be in the stone age .

"I think we have to give up thinking that all people are alike and all want to be free. The thought of forcing people into happiness should not be outlawed."

They have been trained from birth , conditioned . I understand what you mean , but force is the wrong idea . We who see the light should teach others to trust themselves to dream and act to atain their dreams . Educate people , be a good example , a guide for the mentaly castrated and blind .

America was the product of a european ethnic cleaning and genocide on the american indigenous peoples . The problem is not just corperate greed , thats just one face of it . Its hyerarchys that live outside of the control of laws and the peoples of each country , have imunity and abuse their power in the name of freedom and democracy . To protect us from ghosts like islamism , terrorism and protecting homeland security . States within states , political conspiracys , political mafias .

 

[spice]

Interesting post GOD, you know, the internet was created by DARPA, which is a branch of the US Dept. of Defense.

I can't help but question their motives. I remember when the internet came out in the early 90's, my father, who was retired from the Army and Air Force, veteran of several foriegn wars, told me, and I quote;

" Son, anytime the government gives you something it would be wise to really question their motives, because they have motives, and they aren't noble "...

Another gem of wisdom from him;

" Never trust a man with shiny shoes "

It's a pity that such an intelligent man was used for such underhanded purposes, but to his credit, once he did figure some stuff out, he always made sure I understood exactly what 30 years of interacting with the government had taught him...that they are shit.

He worked for DOD during the Viet Nam war, indirectly, as a civilian for Lockheed, and was privy to many military secrets. He had so many secret clearances he had to keep them in a briefcase.....he said that they always want to gather more and more information, that that was why he was able to make a living in electronics with Lockheed.

His opinion was that the entire purpose of the internet is to turn the collective unconscious 'inside out' so that the powers that be can actually mold reality better, and establish absolute control easier.
By externalizing the thoughts, hopes, and desires people carry around in their hearts, it makes it easier for them to develop a counter-strategy.

But it doesn't rreally matter what they do, the forces of entropy will ultimately triumph. So far no nation-state has proven itself immune to change from within, and it ALWAYS comes in an unexpected form.

When the infrastructure is threatened is when you'll come the closest to seeing anarchy....once the milk isn't on its customary shelf, once the 3.5 dollar a gallon gas isn't at the pump, then a circuit is activated in people, and they begin to unravel.

After hurricane katrina destroyed this area, I drove around looking for some diesel for a generator....there was no bread on the shelves, no gas at the pumps, bagged ice was unavailable, no electricity, etc etc

The police were riding around, afraid, advising people to stay home after dark, and telling all the merchants to close at 5 pm because they weren't confident they could enforce the peace.

Anyone who has ever been down here, PLEASE tell me how those asses could ever be worried that there wasn't enough of them to do whatever they wanted....
....anyway, the point is that, the infrastructure is what 'they' provide to hold up their end of the 'bargain' ( if you wanna call it that) and when that infrastructue is gone, so is most peoples loyalty.

I will never forget the feeling that was in the air here during those times, you could feel the tension, it was serious, and everyone knew that IF the shit hit the fan, they'd need all the Homeland Gestapo, er , Security they could muster to try to get things normal again.

They suck, and they ...will...lose.

 

[MindAstronaut]

To bad technology is being used against us. to keep us down and controled.
Just take a look at your TV, its projecting all kind of bullshit in our mind, just for keeping us ignorant.

I am certainly sure there is technology out there that can work in advantage for us, humans, in a very positive way. that it only stimulates us to grow mentally bigger.
Its a fucking shame that our enemy the "Controlers" is the biggest investor in todays technology.
Maybe EMP is a solution?

 

[spice]

" Maybe EMP is a solution "

...wait till they're closer. :!:

 

[buffachino]

I heard about fingerprinting technology in Germany that is used as a database for credit, like a debit card that assigns to your own fingerprint so you can buy things in a store without having to carry money. It also allows big brother to account for every move and transaction you make and thus have even more influence on your freedom.

Peace.

 

[ararat]

I heard about fingerprinting technology in Germany that is used as a database for credit, like a debit card that assigns to your own fingerprint so you can buy things in a store without having to carry money. It also allows big brother to account for every move and transaction you make and thus have even more influence on your freedom.

Peace.

that's only the top of the iceberg, because this one is on a voluntary basis (and the card already is some kind of fingerprint.. I stopped paying with them, I just get my money from the bank with the card). there is so much more bullcrap, data retention for example. in 40 days it will be active in germany, in the name of security, protecting us from the evil freedom-threatening terrorists. as if they (in case they exist of course) wouldn't find another way to communicate.. and who's the victim of this whole thing now? the people. great
if there is one german politician I hate, then it's Schäuble. and our interior minister Platter is kind of the same guy.
all in the name of security. fighting terrorism by making privacy history.
in my opinion, this is highly undemocratical. I have never read something by somebody, or heard somebody say that he is definitely FOR data retention or something, except for some politicians of course.

we pay those paranoid idiots to supervise us. other way round would be better if you ask me.

what pisses me off the most, are the people who say that they have nothing to hide anyway. what kind of boring life do they have?! everybody has something to hide, for fucks sake. so why don't they write their diary and give it to everyone? start running around naked, or what ever.
ah I forgot, it's in the name of our (and of our childrens of course) security. thank you dear state.


sorry for all the swearing, but this topic couldn't piss me more off.

 

[Guest]

from what i've understood, isn't it the same ? instead of a debit card, you have your finger. or am i wrong ?

 

[ararat]

from what i've understood, isn't it the same ? instead of a debit card, you have your finger. or am i wrong ?

yes, basically it is. but my concern is, that people will get used to it, and thus won't think very much when they are asked for their fingerprint somewhere else. these small steps are the worst thing, because people will always say that it won't be bad, because it is such a small step. but one small step mulitplied by 100 will be a huge step. but people won't recognize the overall situation because they are used to the stuff which has existed before.
a little comparison: put a frog into a pot with hot water, it will jump out. but if you put the frog into cold water, and let the water slowly heat. the frog will stay in the pot, until it dies.
compare the situation from the 1970s with today. many things have changed in that time if it comes to privacy (ok, generally many things have changed, but this one especially concerns me.)

 

[Guest]

i am also worried about this, even though i have nothing to hide, i praise my privacy. but they can track by GPS you cell phone, search your credit card history, and no doubt search your internet connection history, the downloads, the files on the hard disk, the MSN chats. my mother used to work at a bank, and i remember very vividly her conversation with my, when i was 6 or 7: "if a bank wants to know what kind of toilet paper you use, be sure that they will very quickly". in reality, we don't have the privacy we used to had 50 years ago. we lost it, step by step, walking happily in the herd. but there's only a place that no-one will look: your head. that's the only place safe.

 

[ararat]

even though i have nothing to hide

why do you think so? you use illegal drugs, for example. all this information could be used against you, even if it's long time ago. and it does not necessarily have to be something illegal

I think "stasi 2.0" is a nice expression for what's going on.

 

[GOD]

A few more indications of what sort of world we live in :-

At the recent G8 meeting of ultra right wing "politicians" in Heiligendamm in Germany a man was arrested and charged and had to go to court for carrying a pasive weapon = a teeth protector as used by boxers !!! The police also broke into and planted bugs in the houses and offices of people and organisations involved in the protest against the meeting . The German airforce was illegaly used to take reconicance pictures of the protesters .

The German government introduced a tax on lorrys using the motorway and erected electronic watch stations to note their number plates . The cameras can also be use to see all the motorway parking spots . The public was told that they would only collect the numbers from lorrys and not from all trafic . Since then the police have been caught using false speed traps on major roads , where you dont have to pay tax , collecting the numbers of all trafic .

The Hamburg city council recently tried to introduce electronic election pens . Lots of people protested that the pens can very easily be manipulated so that it would be easy for the government to cheat and also identify who had voted for who .

The German government has changed the law so that Doctors , Journalists and Lawyers telephone calls can be recorded . They also decided that providers must keep the conection details of all telefon calls - callers telephone number , telephone number of the person that you ring up , the date , time you make your calls and the length of the calls for 6 months . With mobile phones also the place where the call was made . This also aplys to the facts about your internet conection and your surf profile , plus all the details of E-mails and internet telephone calls . This information is already collected in belgium and as from the 1.1.2008 it will be collected by all E.U. governments . This information will then be available to 54 governments .

The German government also had to admit that the details of every person who clicks onto a German government web site , for example the police , is recorded and identifyed .

The EU-commision has decided that all airline passengers details , adresses , telephon numbers , E-mail adresses , creditcard numbers , seat numbers and the amount of their lugage must be collected and kept for 13 years .

In all countrys in Europe all passports will soon have to contain RFID chips wich will make it possible to read all your personal details from 20 cms away . Computer experts have protested that that would mean that anyone with an RFID scanner could read your datails , name , adress , passport number , digital foto and 2 fingerprints while you walked past them and that the details could be stolen and could also be changed . The government now recomends the population to carry their passports in metal cases .

In a recent BBC television documentary " The prying game " it was said that Great Britain with its CCTV is the most "watched" country in the world . The police are now talking about installing microphones into the cameras to record personal conversations of people walking past them on the street . This technology has been developed at the university of Maryland in the USA . The person in charge of the university department said that they had also developed electronic sniffers so that they could identify individual people and the things that they were carrying . He also said that they can identify anyone with their cameras by analysing the way that they walk , even if they try to disguise themselves and walk diferently . He also said that they had developed an instrument as big as a mobile phone that could see through walls and record the heartrate and breathing of people on the otherside of the walls . Then he talked about identifying the brain waves of people so that potential criminals and people who were about to comit violent crimes could be identifyed .

On a housing estate in a small town in north Germany with 2000 residents there are 400 observation cameras , = 1 for every 5 people , wich are activated by electronic movement detectors . The cameras are in front of the main doors to every house , in every staircase , on all floors and above all the dustbins . The dustbins can only be opened with an electronic chip card . Anyone who doesnt use the dustbins for 2 months has to pay a large fine . Every household on the estate must pay 20 Euros a month for the electronic observation . 2 people are employed to watch the pictures that the cameras take .

In 1958 the American government set up an organisation called DARPA to monitor all new scientific developments , to develop means to controll them and ways for the government to use them . The head of the organisation boasted recently about his organisation being to a major part behind the development of the internet and GPS . He implyed that the internet is totaly watched and a honey pot = its largely there for people to put their private details into and be watched .

 

[Dantediv86]

well, it's true we all like all that to a certain extent, or we just can't be bothered...we wouldn't be using internet otherwise, nor electricity, nor cellphones, nor anything else...you dont like it? go live in the middle of nowhere in Vermont if you wanna be free. or become a polititian, or a star (for what the difference is nowadays...apparently you also get free drugs)