Best DMT natural source

[amoak]

Hi,

I ve been smoking an extract from Desmanthus illinoensis , it s an amazing plant with an average 3,4‰ DMT in rootbark or 0,340 in dry material ( 2‰ in roots ) from Jonathan Ott´s Ayahuasca analogues,average 34 mg per gram ,almost the double of anadenathera in concentration triptamines but in Desmanthus illinoensis there are only DMT and no other triptamines in the rootbark , and it s easy and not very hard to smoke if you can smoke 1gram in less then 60 seconds , you can make easly an extract , boiling the rootbark in water with vinegar , and then less the water evaporate, you will have an brown powder , but is hard to know the DMT concentration in yours extract but if you start slow i think is safe .
I ve been smoking the rootbark and extract that i made myself , and it s work perfect , i have real dmt trips with this , and is a very cheap and efficient way to smoke dmt.of course this isn t pure dmt but it works. Try it

 

[HeartCore]

That sounds interesting.

I'm curious if Marsofolds tek would work with this plantsource.

 

[amoak]

Hi,

I think this information a give is wrong , i´ve been thinking and , I use 80 grams to make 2 grams extract , and i need to smoke 0.5 to have a full trip , so , i thinks is impossible to have 34 mg DMT by gram but maybe 3.4 mg , if not i ve been smoking something like 600 mg DMT , i think i ve maybe already dead this night so it s make more sense 3.4 mg per gram , like that i ve been smoking something like 60 mg dmt , or maybe it s me that i lost when i make my extract ?????

Somebogy knows about that ? Somebody understands about chemistrie ? Can i ve lost somethink like 2000 mg making a extract ??

my extrac is made by simple boiling the material and make a concentrate a dont extract pure dmt , maybe next time

 

[kcar181]

I've been interested in this subject for a bit. Is this something you find in your locale?

 

[forest]

i'm very interested in this aswell, for making smoke-able extractions. but your last post confuses me, is t a waste to make an extraction the way you said because you might lose a part of the dmt or not?
and how much vinegar in comparison to water?
appelvinegar or householdvinegar?

 

[amoak]

hi,

I've been interested in this subject for a bit. Is this something you find in your locale?

yes , you can find it in a lot online herbal shops , and in U.S i think is more easy because is native to north america and i think there are a lot american shops with Desmanthus


[quote:1ixix3ms]you might lose a part of the dmt or not?
and how much vinegar in comparison to water?
appelvinegar or householdvinegar?

about losing DMT i think i not lose so much probably i can lose a little , but I think the concentration is 3,4 mg per gram make more sense , so maybe the other information is wrong , but i don t know

i made with 80 grams powder Desmanthus , 2 litres water and half cup (10dl) of normal vinegar( wine or white vinegar) but you can put lemon juice but some sources say is more efficient with vinegar.( is better a digital PH meter , but i have donne without, Ph should go down as about 3 to better results) then you put the powder rootbark and boiling 3 hours , filter with a cofee filter(is important to filter several times) and then boiling until the all water evaporate . then scrape the powder(is hard) . something like 2 , 3 grams brown and very shiny powder when put direct to light.

this is easy and works perfect , so make attention ,this night i smoke 1 gram , and it s was very very hard trip , the first 2 minutes is totaly destruction for your body and mind ,with extreme open-eye visuals , but without the normal nauseas of yopo caused me 5-meo-dmt and bufotenine , i think is very more efficient and more confortable to yours body then yopo .

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[skrudge]

sounds very good.. this is defenitaly worth an experiment for myself, thanks for the info

 

[Guest]

Man this is a very easy to do extraction.
If you don't want to go through the whole process of making a pure dmt powder extraction (where a lot more things can go wrong).

I think I'll definately try this...
Thanks for the tip...
Hope I can get 2 trips out of 50 grams...

 

[skrudge]

i'm kinda low on money right now, so space, if you'd be so kind to try, I will when my paycheck gets here let us know how it went

 

[forest]

i'm gonna order the plant next week, but has anyone else tryd the extraction and smoking allready?

 

[HeartCore]

Hi,

I think this information a give is wrong , i´ve been thinking and , I use 80 grams to make 2 grams extract , and i need to smoke 0.5 to have a full trip , so , i thinks is impossible to have 34 mg DMT by gram but maybe 3.4 mg , if not i ve been smoking something like 600 mg DMT , i think i ve maybe already dead this night so it s make more sense 3.4 mg per gram , like that i ve been smoking something like 60 mg dmt , or maybe it s me that i lost when i make my extract ?????

Somebogy knows about that ? Somebody understands about chemistrie ? Can i ve lost somethink like 2000 mg making a extract ??

my extrac is made by simple boiling the material and make a concentrate a dont extract pure dmt , maybe next time

You can loose all theoretically. My first extract, I had about 40mg of DMT out of 250 grams of rootbark. When I really understood the tek and improved it, I got 2.2 grams out of 250 grams of rootbark. If done right, you should have very little loss.

Which tek did you use? Care to share the steps here?

HC

 

[forest]

he typed it a bit above;

i made with 80 grams powder Desmanthus , 2 litres water and half cup (10dl) of normal vinegar( wine vinegar) but you can put lemon juice but some sources say is more efficient with vinegar.( is better a digital PH meter , but i have donne without, Ph should go down as about 3 to better results) then you put the powder rootbark and boiling 3 hours , filter with a cofee filter(is important to filter several times) and then boiling until the all water evaporate . then scrape the powder(is hard) . something like 2 , 3 grams brown and very shiny powder when put direct to light.

it's a bit like making opium at the end

 

[HeartCore]

My bad for not reading....

It basically looks like a shortcut tek for extracting mimosa. Instead of basifying though, you evaporate the water/vinegar.

I wonder what would happen if a complete extraction would be carried out like with mimosa. Maybe an extra defat step is needed but theoretically, you should be able to get the same clean endproduct right?

 

[Forkbender]

I just read on Azarius that they have a "new" ingredient for ayahuasca: Chaliponga. It is said to be stronger than Psychotria Viridis. Anyone of you know the details about this? Can it be used for extraction?

Link: http://www.azarius.net/news.php?newsindex=138

 

[Brewmaster]

Chaliponga ( Diplopterys Cabrerana ) is hardly new. Well maybe new to Azarius. It's been used in Brazil, Peru and the Amazon by indigenous people for thousands of years. The main difference between chaliponga and chacruna ( the more common psychotria viridis ) is that cabrerana contains DMT and N-DMT. The prices are comparable, however, I've only used chaliponga once. It was the last time I held an ayahuasca ceremony and the effects were less than desirable. Everyone involved experienced a strong purge but only 3 out of 7 people had a very deep trip. I could barely feel it myself and I used one ounce of leaf for every one person. I've always had a good experience with a similar amount of p. viridis but maybe it was just weak.
I'll still stick to what I know works.

 

[Brewmaster]

As for extraction, I believe mimosa hostilis works best.

 

[patilan420]

Hi people,
a friend gave me this spring some Desmanthus Ilinoisis seads and now there are about 20 plants in the back yard, between 50 sm and 1 m tall(the bigest even flowered )
As far as I know, this plant can survive winter temperatures (-15 and more)
so I wonder how many years of waiting and watching them grow lies ahead..
Its very beautifull plant b.t.w.

 

[Guest]

I'm still looking for them seeds...
Seems like an easy thing to grow.

 

[HeartCore]

I'm still looking for them seeds...
Seems like an easy thing to grow.

Looking for seeds to...lets inform eachother once we find them

 

[Guest]

I'm still looking for them seeds...
Seems like an easy thing to grow.

Looking for seeds to...lets inform eachother once we find them

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