1st time: vortices of creation

[Forkbender]

Last night I took salvia (5x extract) for the very first time. I took 2 big hits from a pipe with a normal lighter. I was noticing the effects immediately and laid down for a moment. My girlfriend, who did it about 20 minutes before me and was already back and was strong enough to act as my sitter, refilled the pipe. Meanwhile, I was under the impression that I was somewhere in a room, while people outside were preparing to go away to another place. I was filled with joy about the other place, but was unable to go with the others. It didn't occur to me at all that I took salvia, I just totally forgot. But gradually (it took about a minute) I was able to reconstruct reality, so I got up and took another big hit, holding it for as long as I can remember. By that time, the room was already tilted in such a way that I decided gravity was not something that you should take for granted. I laid on the bed again, this time rolling up my body. Apparently it was curled up along the vertical axis, creating some sort of vortex.

Most of the aspects of a textbook salvia trip were there:
1. I started seeing all kinds of elegant geometrical shapes. The thing was that I could change them at will and when my attention slipped away, I had to do some effort to reconstruct it the way I wanted it, because it had moved on without me. The shapes were more complex than with any other trip I ever had (shrooms, LSA, ayahuasca, deep meditation) and sometimes even combined into very detailed figures (black demons, whom I could counter with white shapes).

2. Time stretched and contracted. At one point I closed my eyes for about 15 minutes in my experience but it turned out to be only 2 in 'reality'. It was really weird.

3. Strange noises. I had a heightened awareness for noises from the street and the hallway and I heard voices from the other side of an imaginary wall (one was SCREAMING horror-movie style!).

4. I could move back and forth between things. This is the only trip in which I could actually go back to a vision I had before and fast forward as it were to the new visions.

All in all it was a very quick mindbogling trip. The effects came on after the second hit (T:+30s) and after the third (T:+1:30), I totally was gone out there. All the above effects were noticable at the same time, although not all were strong at the same time. After about ten minutes, I was slowly coming back, though the effects lasted for at least half an hour to forty five minutes after the initial ten. After an hour, I was ready to stand up and go to the toilet to take a pee. Took some food and then immediately went to sleep. No after effects, no hang-over. I did not go to the 'other side' though. Maybe next time...

 

[MuschBusch]

I'm a non-smoker, but these kind of stories realy makes me curious..
You smoke it pure trough a pipe right??
(Is the 'Salvia Pack Small' word for a good first experience?)

 

[Forkbender]

right. Pure through a pipe. The smoke is hotter than with weed or tobacco (although I do not regularly smoke those). I used the Salvia Pack Small. After 1 trip for two people, there's still about half of the extract left and the whole of the 3 grams of regular leaves.
You don't necessarily have to smoke it, though. You can make a roll out of some leaves and then chew it. For more information check http://www.sagewisdom.org/ here you'll find a very useful user's guide.

 

[Silence_Inc]

i have had the expericne of strange noises to one time - like i could hear air moving ... it sounded like spirals ... like vortexes of wind - all whirling trhough my room ... but i had it only one time.

 

[MuschBusch]

Well.. I smoked Salvia yesterday in the evening together with a friend.
When we smoked the dried leaves we only felt a spacy/dizzy/stoned feeling.
When I mixed 5x extract with the leaves I had my first trip: Soon there were kind of beams everywhere, like big wooden gates. There became symmetry all over the place. All was dark, the 'fences' were dark green/grey. I tried to grap the fences and it all started to move upwards, like a kind of wheel..
My friend had a kind of outer body experience when smoking the same amount. He soon entered a room with strange walls, and suddenly he felt there was someone else in the room. He also saw me sitting left in a kind op opening.. and got a strong message from the man (feeled very wise): 'this is not the right way to get here'..
After he got back and tried to tell me everything I decided to take one last trip for the evening. this time half/half 5x/leaves..:
When I was busy with my 4th inhale, it overwhelmed me very strongly. I laid down and entered a kind of turning weel. The wheel was on fire and i tried to get on the other side, but all was crumbling, burning, and falling into the darkness below.
It is almost impossible to explain the trips in words. I made a extended trip-report in dutch, but not going to transalte it in english to post it here.

It was a heavy and confusing experience.
The negative sides of smoking salvia is it is very short but very intense. I would like to stay a bit longer in the trip instead of falling back at the time it just bcomes interesting. And I hate the smoking.. It was painfull and hard to keep the smoke in my lungs for me as a non-smoker.

 

[MuschBusch]

I just smoked 4 pipes of dried leaves. Along my daily meditation, like a kind of experiment and besides that I have a 'lot'of the dried leaves left. (and i was just bored and curious..)
Anyway: I had some trips with it.. smoked two pipes and laid down.. and again. The trips were similair to yesterday.. and I have to conclude I cant describe it because it is just too vague and mysterious. The only thing that is very clear to say is that when I close my eyes and look into the darkness, there is a constant movement. A constant movement IN the darkness with 'light-beams' around causing structured lines all over the place.. And there was the unpleasent feeling in my legs, like someone pulling at it with a rope.. very strong. I was also 'singing'or murmering this time. words without meaning like 'ra ra ra boem boem taaa taaa trrr rrr'.

Strange, but interesting.