Hey all,
Suppose someone would had a strong Caapi extract from a reliable source and would take an equivalent for 100g Caapi combined with tea extracted from 20 grams of Mimosa Hostilis (taken about 30 minutes after the caapi) and nothing would be experienced.
What could be the problem when
- The Caapi extract was ok 100%
- The Mimosa tea was made by simmering 20 grams of powdered rootbark in water with lemon juice for two hours. This was repeated twice and all the liquid was combined and slowly concentrated to a small drinkable amount on a temperature below the boiling point.
- An extraction of the same batch rootbark has been done which yielded an expected amount of spice (so the bark is still good)
- Two people tried it at night in the middle of the forest and didn't have an experience
- Both felt nausea coming up at the expected timemark, one actually vomited.
I've contacted the supplier and I believe his claim that the Caapi extact is excellent. In the years I know this supplier, I've only receive high quality plant material so I am 100% sure that wasn't the issue. When I asked him this same question, he replied that '20 grams of Jurema can floor you and if you really did 20 grams, you must have done something wrong since'. His conclusion was that the bark must have gone bad. To check that, I did mentioned extraction of 100 grams of the same batch of rootbark which yielded around 1.2 grams of spice.
Could it be the timewindow? Are the MAOI's from Caapi only working for a very short term and did we drink the Mimosa when the Caapi already stopped doing it's thing? I can't imagine that but maybe we should have combined the Caapi and mimosa and drink it as a whole?
Suppose someone would had a strong Caapi extract from a reliable source and would take an equivalent for 100g Caapi combined with tea extracted from 20 grams of Mimosa Hostilis (taken about 30 minutes after the caapi) and nothing would be experienced.
What could be the problem when
- The Caapi extract was ok 100%
- The Mimosa tea was made by simmering 20 grams of powdered rootbark in water with lemon juice for two hours. This was repeated twice and all the liquid was combined and slowly concentrated to a small drinkable amount on a temperature below the boiling point.
- An extraction of the same batch rootbark has been done which yielded an expected amount of spice (so the bark is still good)
- Two people tried it at night in the middle of the forest and didn't have an experience
- Both felt nausea coming up at the expected timemark, one actually vomited.
I've contacted the supplier and I believe his claim that the Caapi extact is excellent. In the years I know this supplier, I've only receive high quality plant material so I am 100% sure that wasn't the issue. When I asked him this same question, he replied that '20 grams of Jurema can floor you and if you really did 20 grams, you must have done something wrong since'. His conclusion was that the bark must have gone bad. To check that, I did mentioned extraction of 100 grams of the same batch of rootbark which yielded around 1.2 grams of spice.
Could it be the timewindow? Are the MAOI's from Caapi only working for a very short term and did we drink the Mimosa when the Caapi already stopped doing it's thing? I can't imagine that but maybe we should have combined the Caapi and mimosa and drink it as a whole?