What's the best A/B tek with these elements?

[FreeYourMind]

Hi Guys,
well i've seen ther's a lot of teks for extracting dmt
but everyone that tries to extract seems to change something to the tek he was using
so it seemes to me that we've ended up with hundreds of ways to made an extraction..and i'm a little puzzled
So i would like to know if there was someone between you guys that could help me finding the best A/B tek for me
Let's suppose i could find these elements:

- 100 grams Mimosa Hostilis "Purple pink" inner root bark powder
- Digital Ph meter
- 0,001g digital scale
- 100% pure flaked Lye
- bidistilled water 5-10 Lt
- Extra pure petroleum ether 1Lt (boiling point 40°- 80°C / 104 - 176 F )
- 98% (or 99 don't remember) muriatic acid
- glass eye dropper pipette 1ml
- various syringes (from 50-60ml to 1ml)
- funnel
- Glass jars with screw top 1lt (can find smaller if needed)
- paper coffe filters
- any cloth/stocking filter
- evaporation dish
- protection gloves and glasses

* Sodium Bicarbonate (i've heard it's used to wash dmt is it correct? Or it was sodium Carbonate?)
anyway if needed i could get both of them

Well i thinks it's more or less everything, so if you can help me it would be very much appreciated
See You Psychonauts ^_^
"FreeYourMind"

 

[IJesusChrist]

With mimosa you don't need 99% muriatic (hydrochloric). In fact you don't need any acid...

All you do is this;
Grind mimosa (or pre-grinded).
Put X grams of mimosa in container.
Put 60-70% X of Lye (NaOH) In a seperate container.
Fill the LYE's container with water (eyeball it so just enough to cover the bark).
Put the LYE water into the mimosa container after thoroughly mixed.
Check to make sure pH is above 10.5 or 11
Keep warm if possible. Shake frequently.
If it is possible to keep around 90°F+ then this should be fairly quick dissolvation - 1 hour max.
After 1 hour of warm (or over night for colder water) add naptha - about 1/10th the total water volume.
Swirl gently but quickly. If emulsion forms, add sodium bicarb.
Seperate the naptha via syringe or other more preferable technique.
Evaporate over room temp.
Torch residue and pee your pants.

 

[FreeYourMind]

Put X grams of mimosa in container.
Put 60-70% X of Lye (NaOH) In a seperate container.

Just to clarify you mean for ex:
for 100 grams of mimosa to use 60-70 grams of Lye i guess, right?

Fill the LYE's container with water (eyeball it so just enough to cover the bark).

I've always read to put the lye into the water and not the water into the lye
am i wrong? Anyway the result should be a solution with ph between 10.5 and 11

After 1 hour of warm (or over night for colder water) add naptha - about 1/10th the total water volume.

I dont need to separate the water from the residue material and the add the VM&P naptha?

Swirl gently but quickly. If emulsion forms, add sodium bicarb.

Can you please clarify this part of the process, i mean
how much sodium bicarbonate?
What's the purpose of doing this? (i mean i should basify the solution or what? just to know...)

Seperate the naptha via syringe or other more preferable technique.

How long should i leave the naphta before separate and evaporate?

I know i've got a lot of questions but i'm totally new so
any further help/clarification will be very much appreciated

 

[IJesusChrist]

Just to clarify you mean for ex:
for 100 grams of mimosa to use 60-70 grams of Lye i guess, right?

Yes. The idea is you need to reach a very high pH.

I've always read to put the lye into the water and not the water into the lye
am i wrong? Anyway the result should be a solution with ph between 10.5 and 11

It doesn't matter with pellets - you'll be adding a solid to water or water to a solid, neither of these situations really calls for the cautious "Acid to watta just like you outta" (or base). Just whenever you add anything to anything in this step, do it relatively slowly - do not go dumping shit like buckets.

After 1 hour of warm (or over night for colder water) add naptha - about 1/10th the total water volume.

I dont need to separate the water from the residue material and the add the VM&P naptha?

No - the procedure I am giving in the previous post does not call for any acid. You do not need any acid! If you want an A/B extraction look it up, it just involves and extra step that is not needed. I am giving you a STRAIGHT TO BASE tek. That means what you are going to have in your solution before you add the naptha is Bark and Basic (pH =11) water. You will add the naptha. You will see two distinct layers - the naptha will be on top. The DMT will migrate to that solution (naptha). Save the naptha and evap.

Swirl gently but quickly. If emulsion forms, add sodium bicarb.

Can you please clarify this part of the process, i mean
how much sodium bicarbonate?
What's the purpose of doing this? (i mean i should basify the solution or what? just to know...)

Actually, I hope this doesn't confuse you - but I was thinking adding sodium chloride - just salt water. Not sodium bicarb. I don't know why you would wash DMT with sodium bicarb unless you wanted very pure crystals... But then I would assume you would just use DI water. You'll have to search DMT-Nexus.org for more info on sodium bicarb- that doesn't ring a bell for me.

Just replace "add sodium bicarb" with "brine" which is saturated salt water.

Seperate the naptha via syringe or other more preferable technique.

How long should i leave the naphta before separate and evaporate?

I know i've got a lot of questions but i'm totally new so
any further help/clarification will be very much appreciated

Depends on temperature. DMT is a fairly bulky molecule - but not huge, so it should seperate into the naptha fairly quickly. If you have a hot plate or another (safe) way to keep the solutions at a high temperature - it should be done within 15 minutes. You may want to fill a tub full of very hot water and put your container that holds the water/naptha layers in there for 15-30 minutes. While still warm, take the naptha out.

The basic idea of this extraction is this:
The bark holds mostly water soluable compounds and a very few non-polars. When you add the water, most compounds will migrate out of the bark and dissolve into solution with the water. The longer this soaks, the more compounds will migrate into solution. The addition of acid protonates the amine group, causing it to be very soluble in water (but not necessary!). When you have let the solution soak for a while (preferably over night at warm - but the longer the better of course), the dmt will sit in water. When you add base, the DMT will be slightly soluable. As you add more and more base, the DMT has a harder and harder time staying soluable - it really becomes non-polar compared to the surrounding basic water.

When you add the naptha to this highly basic solution, the DMT has a greater ability to dissolve in the naptha - so it will migrate there. The higher the pH, the more the DMT prefers the naptha solution.

Adding the brine pushes the DMT out of water even more so.

hope that makes sense. Some of it is very simple, but doesn't make sense until you have some background.