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I was just wondering how common this is for you guys and gals here.
I never have a good time coming up on shrooms. I usually feel very negative and disorientated for the first hour and the stronger the dose the worse I feel.

Whilst coming up I can't enjoy music, videos or talking. But once past this stage, I'm fine.

Do any of you feel like this? If so, what do you do to offset it?
 
Well, sometimes I also feel uncomfortable during onset.
The only thing you can do is make tea out of it.
The duration will be shorter, but also will the onset.
Last mushroom journey I went on I started seeing patterns after 5 minutes and all heaven broke lose after 10.

I guess it's something you'll have to pull yourself through.
Maybe some hits of Mary Jane will help you relax a bit more.
I feel nervous before every time, but these are just healthy nerves.
 
I love the coming up, really like that part.
I lie down, I relax, I pay attention to all the little rushes coming up to my brain...
and I think of what I' m searching in that trip, what brought me there, what will I look for...

good moment, it's one of the reasons why I don't use tea
 
arimane a dit:
I lie down, I relax, I pay attention to all the little rushes coming up to my brain..

I usually do that if I start getting anxiety during comeup and it helps me relax as well. Besides that I often do some kind of creative exercise that focuses my attention. And earlier during comeup I also like going for a walk, if the option is available.
 
" I often do some kind of creative exercise that focuses my attention. "

Hand work ?
 
Lumo a dit:
I was just wondering how common this is for you guys and gals here.
I never have a good time coming up on shrooms. I usually feel very negative and disorientated for the first hour and the stronger the dose the worse I feel.


The harsh come up is a common complaint with psilocybin.

Try mescaline instead.
 
Come ups aren't my thing either. They tend to be uncomfortable. I just deal with it. Tea helps also. Also surrender to the experience. Don't try to hold onto normal consciousness as it usually that is what makes it uncomfortable. Just let go and flow.

peace, love & light
 
Lumo a dit:
Whilst coming up I can't enjoy music, videos or talking.
Try to get yourself out of the enjoyment mode by meditating yourself through the come up. If nothing else, just lie down in the dark to give your eyes some rest, and take a couple of deep breaths to relax. Do not talk or watch videos. Get yourself ready to focus on the inner landscape that gradually starts to develop. If you do this attentively, you'll realize the state change wasn't really something to worry about after all. Try to remember that next time you ingest your shrooms.
 
Getafix a dit:
Lumo a dit:
Whilst coming up I can't enjoy music, videos or talking.
Try to get yourself out of the enjoyment mode by meditating yourself through the come up. If nothing else, just lie down in the dark to give your eyes some rest, and take a couple of deep breaths to relax. Do not talk or watch videos. Get yourself ready to focus on the inner landscape that gradually starts to develop. If you do this attentively, you'll realize the state change wasn't really something to worry about after all. Try to remember that next time you ingest your shrooms.
I'd say this is pretty solid advice
 
Music and images can really fuck up a high dose mushroom trip. On a high dose usually silent darkness is prefered by many. Just because the visions will become so intense that impressions from the real world will interfere with it and just confuse you.

The higher the dose, the bigger the confusion is added by external stimuli.
 
Come-ups often are hard times for me too. Thanks for the advices, I'll remember this for my next trip. I think that since I started meditating regularly for a while, I'm gonna be able to cope with them better now.
 
My six pence worth . Read the posts by Getafix and HeartCore and next time you take mushrooms make a mushroom tea . Dont eat for 4 hours before and dont take anyother drugs before .
 
I almost never really like the come-up of mushroom trips. A few times I experienced a come-up that was so quick (with mushroom tea) that it was very intense and visual, and really pleasant. That is not the case for most trips though. Although I always take mushrooms in a tea, mostly the come-up is a little unpleasant, I'm feeling cold, I'm feeling lost, I'm feeling... not good. But I know it's going to change, and that's worth it.
All in all I love the duality of a shroom trip. The fact that not all of it is just feels perfectly good is the reason that the day after I feel really really good, instead of totally shitty like with drugs or alcohol.
 
Well put:)
 
I usually take my time to let the mushroom come to me.
For me it works best to sit up with closed eyes.
 
Alan_Rockefeller a dit:
Lumo a dit:
I was just wondering how common this is for you guys and gals here.
I never have a good time coming up on shrooms. I usually feel very negative and disorientated for the first hour and the stronger the dose the worse I feel.


The harsh come up is a common complaint with psilocybin.

Try mescaline instead.

I also have had a hard time getting anything more than feeling cold and hungover w/ mushrooms. I am hoping this changes as Mushrooms are the quickest to cultivate. Tea helps me avoid the unpleasantness but still haven't been able to take a large enough dose to really trip. last tea was 5g and all I really got was the sweats. I haven't given up hope completely yet though.

I quoted A.R. because of the mention of Mescaline.
Mescaline is awesome. It takes me 3hrs to come on from it but it is a great time and very visual. It is second only to LSD for me and that is only because of the long come on time. The only thing more visual that I have ever done is DMT and that is a horse of another color :lol:

Back to Mushies. The tea hasn't rocked my world yet and when I have eaten them I haven't chewed them up very well, just got them down.
I have been advised to put them in a blender w/ some OJ and down that.
I will report back if this method works better that eating or teaing.
I sure hope to be able to make friends w/ mushrooms as I have been successful at growing them
Grow my own cacti too but that is some slow going stuff. I'll be buying dried chips for a few more years b/4 I am self sufficient w/ Mescaline.
 
You don't need to put them in a blender. Why should one put perfectley good mushrooms in blenders :roll:

Mushrooms in blender big NO NO if you ask me.

Just eat them. :D
 
What would blending them up w/ some OJ do to harm the magic?
They are dried and crumbly and the acidity of the OJ should help bring out the Psilocybin ( even though stomach acid will accomplish that anyway ).
This was suggested to me by a fellow member of another mushroom/botanicals site after hearing of my troubles w/ psilocybin.
I have had bad times when I have eaten them. Unless it was just because I didn't chew them very well. Just chewed them enough to choke them down w/ a drink ( soda or water not alcohol ).
This is how I took them when I felt cold, sick, hungover and depressed for the whole 4-6 hrs.
When teaing them up, they work w/o unpleasantness, but at 5g still haven't really tripped. I can feel a mild trip like feeling but nothing like a dose of Mescaline, LSD or 2C-E.

P.S. I am just asking your reasoning behind your post, not trying to argue/contradict you.
:D
 
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