Third Trip : Delsym = bad?

[Entheonaut]

Not exactly :wink:

Dextromethorphan hydrobromide is the water-soluble salt of dextromethorphan (DXM) and hydrobromic acid (that is, DXM hydrobromide is what you get when you react pure DXM with hydrobromic acid).

look it up at http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_general_info.shtml#toc.4.2

Edit:
Also confirming that the bromide-ions can be a health problem:

DXM is usually ingested as a hydrobromide salt. Large amounts of bromide ions can cause sedation and eventually lead to bromism (bromide poisoning), which affects (among other things) the skin and nervous system (see Section 6.3.15. I don't think this is terribly relevant for users of DXM (recreational or not); however it is one more reason to avoid prolonged high-dose use. You can avoid bromide ions by converting the DXM to free base and/or hydrochloride salt (see Section 11.1). Some physicians do believe that prolonged heavy use of DXM may lead to bromism (144).

source: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq ... toc.4.11.7

 

[DevXavier]

wooo, fortunately I never got any coke so I didn't end up probably killing myself. However, I did get extremely sick, but it was not a result of only the DXM. I took like 225mg of DXM so it only put me at the first plateau. I definitly noticed some pleasent effects, but my entire body developed a rash and I was extremely itchy through most of the trip. The problems began on the comedown. I decided to get drunk, which was a mistake, and then the bigger mistake came a little later when I took 4 hits of LSD. It was a fairly amazing and strong trip, but my body was very very sick for a good portion of it. I had very bad vomiting that was not accompanied by nausea, and began much later than normal acid nausea should (at least in my experience), and I also had very irritable bowels and gas. I assume that the residual DXM and alcohol mixed with the impurities im sure were present in the LSD (street quality from Daytona Fl...) was what caused me to be so ill, but I'm not a chemistry student so I really don't know. All I know is that my first DXM experience was mighty fun, and I can see myself doing it again.

I am not chemist, but I have heard from the testing instances, that there is either DO-x on a blotter, which you would most surely have noticed. Or there is LSD (and iso-lsd, as LSD decomposes) on it.

Impurities have never been found in any of the test results when there was LSD on the blotter. Then again, I have been "told", so I don't know for sure.

The nausea probably came because you had some sort of allergic reaction to the DXM, then got drunk, then took a lot of LSD. Your body simply went into detox mode to get rid of the chemicals in your body.

 

[impactboi]

YOO impactboi, nausea has always been a problem for me as well.. however there are a few things you can do to reach your 3rd plateau goal. The 3rd plateau is very very fun by the way, especially in the right environment (my favorite is probably trance concert or club )

But anyways, one thing you can do is carefully control the food you eat prior to your trip. I think the best is to have eaten a good sized meal about 2 or 3 hours before you dose. And it helps even more to snack some bread or something around the time you dose too.

I'm gonna look into the supposed difference between dxm and dxm hcl, but you can try to get the pill form of dxm or dxm hcl in a bunch of products too. So you dont have to kill yourself chugging that bottle. (Look for Dexalone)

And last, weed helps a lot too.

Wow, the last time I was on here was almost three weeks ago. Sorry for the delayed reply.

I do intent to try 3rd plateau, so I'll tell you how much fun I had after I done it.

However, I find that having an empty stomach works best. In fact, I think one of the reasons that contributed to the nausea last time was because I had a few grapes right before downing the cough syrup.

I'm not sure what to make of the DXM and DXM-Br issue. So far all three different cough syrups I experimented with are DXM-Br. :?