Spice???

[tryptonaut]

A colleague showed me an article about "spice" today, some kind of legal herbal cannabis substitute. I knew about half of the ingredients and told him they were nowhere near as good as cannabis, but the article insisted this stuff was really strong. I assumed it was was just some kind of media-hype advertisment article.
Does anyone of you have real experience with this herbal smoke called "spice"?

 

[druglessdouglas]

 

[GOD]

Of topic..... Dune is one of my favorite scifi storys ........... the person/s who made the film should be hunted down and executed .

Back on topic .

It must be advertising . Theres nothing thats legal that beams you as good / far / hard as cannabis .

 

[druglessdouglas]

i agree with god on both points, though ive only read one dune book, the uncut film is a bit better but 4 hours long

ive smoked spice and it doed something, no doubt but its very short acting.
i know someone who never smokes cannabis because of his job and drug testing. he swears by spice and loves the effects. hes not naive - he grew enough weed to buy a 4 bedroom house

 

[restin]

it is OK, It has similarities with weed, especially on high doses. It changes your perception but I agree that it is not very long lasting. Here, it is more expensive then weed and it isn't better for health - my pipe looked awful after smoking spice. I think it is OK but weed is better.

I once smoked 0.4 grams of spice in a bong and it really blew my mind off. But if it is good for meditation, mind exploration is very questionable.

 

[GOD]

I just turned the TV on and there was a report on ARD the main german chanel about "Spice" . The program was called "Polylux" and the report stared Christian Raetsch . He looked at the "Spice" mixture and said it doesnt contain all the herbs its suposed to contain . He also said those ingredients would not have an effect comparable or as strong as cannabis . Then he smoked some and said that it had a drug effect , but not the one that one would expect from the herbs that are suposed to be in it . His conclusion was that it must contain some chemical ingredient .

This is what themanufacturer says it contains :-


* Baybean (Canavalia maritima)
* Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea)
* Lion's Tail (Leonurus cardiaca)
* Lousewort (Pedicularis furbishiae)
* Indian Warrior (Pedicularis densiflora)
* Dwarf Scullcap (Scuttelaria nana)
* Maconha Brava (Zornia latifolia)
* Pink Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera)
* Marshmallow (Althaea officinalis)
* Red Clover (Trifolium pratense)
* Rose
* Siberian Motherwort (Marihuanilla, Leonorus sibiricus)
* Vanilla
* Honey

 

[Psyolopher]

Spice does work!
Its not like a cannabis high!
And its not as good either!
But it deff gets you high if you smoke enough!
Smoke it pure in a pipe, hold it in!
Then you get retarded for a long time!

I even get the munchies!
But then again, i'd rather smoke cannabis!
Its deff worth a try!

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Then you get retarded for a long time!

We are concerned that users of Spice get retarded permanently due to an unknown and possibly unhealthy chemical component. Spice is for stoners, not for psychonauts. Psychonauts don't put unknown substances in their precious brain.

Thanks for posting this GOD.

 

[5553b4442]

Psychonauts don't put unknown substances in their precious brain.

So i guess that research chemicals aren't used by psychonauts. So many stoners out here!

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Make that "unknown research chemicals".

 

[restin]

I remember, someone posted a link a long time ago, that an online shop stopped selling spice because of an unknown ingredient.

 

[5553b4442]

what are the KNOWN long-term effects of Dr. Shulgin's RC's ?

 

[restin]

Dr. Shulgin's RC's

do you mean spice? You can look on the internet, you will only find some reports that each contradict each other. There are no known LT-effects because the drug is new and unresearched

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

what are the KNOWN long-term effects of Dr. Shulgin's RC's ?

I'm not going off topic to argue with you. Your question isn't relevant to what I said anyway.

 

[Psyolopher]

Well that is true!
im a stoner and a psychonaut!

But really, spice didnt do me harm!
Guess im not gonna smoke it again!
The worst thing is that you will be stoned for a long time on it!