Some discussion about American foreign policy...

[spice]

"Where you see valid acheivements or virtue being attacked"

Who's defining these 'valid acheivements'.....or 'virtue'


These words are ABSTRACTIONS.


Who's twisting words?

'Inadequacy'

'Excellence'

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We've already established that we don't speak the same language.

There seem to be more people here who think like I do than you.........

the real question is, troll,-


'what is your purpose here?





:?:

 

[GOD]

+ ! .


Ellis youve never had a trip in your life . Everyone here can see that . A trip teaches honesty , empathy , responsibility and love for others and the planet . You are just the oposite . You are a spiritual cripple twisted with self pity , greed and ignorance .

You have no soul , no conscience and you are blind in all three eyes . Nobody here agrees with you , you doent even agree with yourself . You keep contradicting yourself , avoiding answering questions and talking yourself in circles .

 

[druglessdouglas]

maybe Ellisdee needs to interact with more "spiritual" people for his personal development. it could be we are his only contact with such people. we should all stop hounding him IMO

just my opinion of course. do what you like its a free planet

 

[magickmumu]

is this a free planet
So everything is for free

I don´t think so :wink:

 

[Shake]

ah good old Australia.. It is so much more layed back here...

My prime minister lives a couple houses down hes a good bloke! He came over to borrow my fishing reel the other day, the bastard still hasnt returned it...

Whenever i have an issue i need dealt with i jst yell over the fence "hey, Kevin!" and hes like "ohh fuck off im havin a beer"

 

[magickmumu]

So everything is cake and egg down under.

 

[Shake]

I dont know what that means...

But apart from the big banks fucking everyone, and apart from Americas fucked economy dragging ours down with it.. every thing is sweet. dont even need health insurance or a job! but i have both and dont condone welfare abuse aka dole bludjing..

 

[druglessdouglas]

if Bush had borrowed your fishing reel you would be living in Cuba by now, there would be military camped in the pile of rubble that had been your house and private companies would be dividing the contents of your fridge between them. then you would get sent a bill

 

[GOD]

If he gives us a break we will give him one . I told him that last week but he doesnt seem to be able to shut up and turn the nazi propoganda off .

Shake , i think your new icon is realy SHIT .

 

[spice]

You are absolutely correct. That's why I get so pissed off when anyone even remotely defends those planetary rapists, and regardless of the backpedalling that's been done, there has been a bit of that in this thread.

Anyone who cares to can re-read this thread, and see what is up.


There is arrogance, until people put it in check, then, back-pedalling, then self-contradictions, then defensiveness.....there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but MY GOD it should be well thought out, informed, and, if possible, actually guided by entheogens....someone who does THIS, is much more in touch with what IS and what IS NOT.

I don't need to hear some fucking neo-conservative rubbish on this board, and it's gonna be a long thread filled with a lot of shit if that crap keeps coming.


Believe this.

 

[GOD]

Anyone who cant stand the heat should get out of the fire........ and not wonder why the planet is totaly fucked up . I wont shut up , i wont lie down and i wont give up . The same as with discrimination against women , children , animals , nature , foreigners , i will fight to my last breath . Its our life , its our planet and its our choice if we shit them all full or let others do it .

 

[restin]

great post, GOD. Nowadays, people tend to say that politics is a matter of opinion. It is not so. There is right and wrong and if we learned something from history, then it is that. Like before WWII, where Chamberlain tried with an "Empeacement" with Hitler, today people try to work with Fundamentalists and Neocons...

 

[Shake]

Hows that one instead GOD.... :finger:

 

[Forkbender]

Nowadays, people tend to say that politics is a matter of opinion. It is not so. There is right and wrong and if we learned something from history, then it is that.

BS.

Whose right? Whose wrong? If you think in terms of dualities, you will end up torn to pieces. When people are right, they think they have the right to fight those who are wrong, i.e. to do 'wrong' things to deal with 'wrong people'. Fuck that.

 

[Forkbender]

Hows that one instead GOD.... :finger:

 

[restin]

Whose right? Whose wrong? If you think in terms of dualities, you will end up torn to pieces. When people are right, they think they have the right to fight those who are wrong, i.e. to do 'wrong' things to deal with 'wrong people'. Fuck that.

There's right and wrong in terms of humanity.

 

[GOD]

OH !!!! Shake . I REALY like it . It doesnt look like something from a 14 year old girl with an inferiority complex whos in love anymore .

"Whose right? Whose wrong? If you think in terms of dualities, you will end up torn to pieces. When people are right, they think they have the right to fight those who are wrong, i.e. to do 'wrong' things to deal with 'wrong people'. Fuck that."

Fork your talking philosophical shit again . Come into the real world . Life is a series of desisions , isnt it better to make positive ones . We all decide whats right or wrong , its called group reality . The most people want desisions made that benefit the planet . So its decided what is a better or worse solution / desision . World hunger / poverty or not . Thats a desision about good and bad . Thats what life is about , evolution , change , growing , emancipüating ourselves from the ways of thinking that caused problems in the past . The only choice is democracy / group concensus . Not dictaing . The way you talk sounds like the lowest common denominator , being brought down in a downwards spiral of ignorance and fear . Exactly whats fucked the planet . Running away from responsibility .

Is murder good or bad ? If you answer that question you destroy your whole argument . If you dont you r ????

 

[????????]

right and wrong are context dependent concepts, I agree with Fork, there's no ultimate good or bad. Murder is the perfect example; would you consider "wrong" that a lioness murders a zebra to feed her 5 starving babies????

it DEPENDS

 

[GOD]

How dumb can people get . Your argueing with yourself . Right and wrong are not ultimately definable as right or wrong but iondividual actions can be seen as right or wrong . But thats the game you both are playing . Peopel call things right or wrong and playing stupid philosophical semantic smartass games with them doesnt help anyone it only proves that someone is being a pety dickhead . Why not talk about better or worse ?

Dumb idea 2 . A lioness doesnt murder its pray . Its a carnivor and has to kill to survive . It isnt right or wrong .

 

[????????]

who's playing philosophical semantic smartassery?????? I'm just saying you can't think in dualities.

A lioness doesnt murder its pray . Its a carnivor and has to kill to survive . It isnt right or wrong .

that is want I wanted to say so you agree with me.