timmurh
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Age: 18
Bodyweight - 85kg
I started researching this wondrous herb in February, purchasing my first 330mg vial in Camden Town early July this year. The experience was totally surreal, something that I feel is impossible to explain with words, its something you must go through yourself before you can fully understand the effects. I have taken the herb on 5 different occasions, each with some strange results involving me learning about myself.
Experience 1:
Purchased my Salvia from a headshop in Camden. I bought 60x, although after experiences with an online retailers extract i am sceptical as to whether this really was as strong as he told me it was.
Went round to my friends house who had also been researching salvia, and after a few hours of preparing ourselves mentally we constructed a down stem bong. Neither of us had a great deal of experience with smoking methods, not smokers, or regular weed users. We did not think to put a screen in the bowl (a small drill bit type) so a lot of the substance was pulled through into the water. The smoke was thin. I did not experience much effect, no breakthrough just laughter which was really me just going along with it, it wasnt uncontrollable. My friend however described seeing a cat across a river waving at him. the intensity of this i cannot say.
Experience 2:
A couple of months later after some more research, a pipe screen and a jet lighter we tried again. this time we used a gravity bong, which worked a treat. I filled the bowl with the same extract and pulled the substance through. after exhaling, I was transported to a fairground, comprised entirely of small silver streaks of light outlining the rides, of which i was not an observer but an integral part. As i spun around a giant wheel i felt a welcoming presence guiding me through the trip, reminiscent of "lady salvia" i have read about described from the shamanistic rituals. It was great, however I didnt consider it a true breakthrough for me as I stayed in the room, my next trip a few weeks later was a different story.
Experience 3:
This time the extract was from a website, and the trip blew me away. I was guided again by this entity, into a community. again i was not an observer but an integral part of the street as it felt, I totally spaced out to this other dimension, there was no recognition of the real world at all. After coming round, I felt an extreme disassociation with the real world, I really felt as though i no longer belonged here and i should be in that community. This lasted for about an hour, and i felt almost suicidal. I had read about a high lingering for about this time, but this was different. My friends trip was much more visual, whereby he followed a being through a gate and up a street to a lighthouse where he was enlightened.
Experience 4:
The next time I was armed with the knowledge and experience of smoking techniques and reasonable familiarity with what was to be expected, this definitely gave me a false sense of security. i was again transported to the community, but this time i was an outsider. i was looking on from above, almost like a balcony. To my left was a short drop and then a number of beings, and in front of me my friend sat, extended at the end of what felt like an infinite line of arms being raised in a V shape, moving towards me in a repetitive pattern. The one thing I really cant stand is boredom, i am generally a very positive person (calm or energetic, never angry or frustrated) but only thing that really grinds me is boredom. I had a strong feeling that if i allowed myself to break the link with my friend and fall into the beings, i would experience extreme eternal boredom. This i now think of as a test presented to me by lady salvia, the first couple of times i immersed myself in this universe I was guided and helped along, like a child. But now I am expected to find my own feet, then she will return to my visions. It is an intense feeling of unfinished business, something my personality does not agree with. I felt as though i needed to go back.
My friends trip on this occasion was much worse, very similar to mine but he unfortunately where i was able to use strong will to keep my cool, he could not. He afterwards explained to me he experienced his own version of hell, like me he cannot stand boredom, his idea of hell being a repetitive motion constantly going on and on forever. He could see me on the other side of this piece of machinery that kept ticking over in the same manner, he worried this would last forever and this was his life from now on. He crawled across the floor and curled up screaming "its not real" before trying to go outside, which i could not let him do (in case he fell down the stairs etc) instead i took him into the room next door which was much cooler/brighter. He never cries, but on this instance he did.
Experience 5:
After this i tripped with another friend, to exactly the same place as the last time, nothing changed I was still resistive to leave my sitter. Once intoxicated, i had no recollection of what i had planned to do to evolve through this phase, it was back to square one. So im not sure what i can do to fully immerse myself in this state.
What was interesting was my memory of the first trip to the frustrating community was only revealed when i went back, it was not on my conscious mind before taking the hit for my most recent trip, which would have explained why i went to the same place. Is this maybe an indication of my imagination settling on a common place for me to visit? I did have a vision i felt referred to the supermarket 'safeway', which as a child i went to every week with my dad, and has now been closed down.
During/immediately after this experience i felt no enlightenment at all, just a feeling of letting myself down. However the following week, i started to notice traits about my personality that i didnt like, namely not listening, but waiting for my turn to speak. I dont know whether its coincidence that this revelation came at the same time as my trip, or I have been given a chance to improve myself for the better.
I am keen to revisit the salvia world soon as I find it is not a fun experience but an important one. I have a strong feeling I can learn from fully immersing myself in the world and standing on my own feet, I have always taken it seriously but from now on i think it is time to enter the world armed with a question and an intent, not just for a look around.
I welcome any comments or ideas anyone might have about my experience, i am very interested to learn more about myself through this means if possible
cheers for reading, sorry was a bit long but I really wanted to get it all down and out of my head 
Tim
Bodyweight - 85kg
I started researching this wondrous herb in February, purchasing my first 330mg vial in Camden Town early July this year. The experience was totally surreal, something that I feel is impossible to explain with words, its something you must go through yourself before you can fully understand the effects. I have taken the herb on 5 different occasions, each with some strange results involving me learning about myself.
Experience 1:
Purchased my Salvia from a headshop in Camden. I bought 60x, although after experiences with an online retailers extract i am sceptical as to whether this really was as strong as he told me it was.
Went round to my friends house who had also been researching salvia, and after a few hours of preparing ourselves mentally we constructed a down stem bong. Neither of us had a great deal of experience with smoking methods, not smokers, or regular weed users. We did not think to put a screen in the bowl (a small drill bit type) so a lot of the substance was pulled through into the water. The smoke was thin. I did not experience much effect, no breakthrough just laughter which was really me just going along with it, it wasnt uncontrollable. My friend however described seeing a cat across a river waving at him. the intensity of this i cannot say.
Experience 2:
A couple of months later after some more research, a pipe screen and a jet lighter we tried again. this time we used a gravity bong, which worked a treat. I filled the bowl with the same extract and pulled the substance through. after exhaling, I was transported to a fairground, comprised entirely of small silver streaks of light outlining the rides, of which i was not an observer but an integral part. As i spun around a giant wheel i felt a welcoming presence guiding me through the trip, reminiscent of "lady salvia" i have read about described from the shamanistic rituals. It was great, however I didnt consider it a true breakthrough for me as I stayed in the room, my next trip a few weeks later was a different story.
Experience 3:
This time the extract was from a website, and the trip blew me away. I was guided again by this entity, into a community. again i was not an observer but an integral part of the street as it felt, I totally spaced out to this other dimension, there was no recognition of the real world at all. After coming round, I felt an extreme disassociation with the real world, I really felt as though i no longer belonged here and i should be in that community. This lasted for about an hour, and i felt almost suicidal. I had read about a high lingering for about this time, but this was different. My friends trip was much more visual, whereby he followed a being through a gate and up a street to a lighthouse where he was enlightened.
Experience 4:
The next time I was armed with the knowledge and experience of smoking techniques and reasonable familiarity with what was to be expected, this definitely gave me a false sense of security. i was again transported to the community, but this time i was an outsider. i was looking on from above, almost like a balcony. To my left was a short drop and then a number of beings, and in front of me my friend sat, extended at the end of what felt like an infinite line of arms being raised in a V shape, moving towards me in a repetitive pattern. The one thing I really cant stand is boredom, i am generally a very positive person (calm or energetic, never angry or frustrated) but only thing that really grinds me is boredom. I had a strong feeling that if i allowed myself to break the link with my friend and fall into the beings, i would experience extreme eternal boredom. This i now think of as a test presented to me by lady salvia, the first couple of times i immersed myself in this universe I was guided and helped along, like a child. But now I am expected to find my own feet, then she will return to my visions. It is an intense feeling of unfinished business, something my personality does not agree with. I felt as though i needed to go back.
My friends trip on this occasion was much worse, very similar to mine but he unfortunately where i was able to use strong will to keep my cool, he could not. He afterwards explained to me he experienced his own version of hell, like me he cannot stand boredom, his idea of hell being a repetitive motion constantly going on and on forever. He could see me on the other side of this piece of machinery that kept ticking over in the same manner, he worried this would last forever and this was his life from now on. He crawled across the floor and curled up screaming "its not real" before trying to go outside, which i could not let him do (in case he fell down the stairs etc) instead i took him into the room next door which was much cooler/brighter. He never cries, but on this instance he did.
Experience 5:
After this i tripped with another friend, to exactly the same place as the last time, nothing changed I was still resistive to leave my sitter. Once intoxicated, i had no recollection of what i had planned to do to evolve through this phase, it was back to square one. So im not sure what i can do to fully immerse myself in this state.
What was interesting was my memory of the first trip to the frustrating community was only revealed when i went back, it was not on my conscious mind before taking the hit for my most recent trip, which would have explained why i went to the same place. Is this maybe an indication of my imagination settling on a common place for me to visit? I did have a vision i felt referred to the supermarket 'safeway', which as a child i went to every week with my dad, and has now been closed down.
During/immediately after this experience i felt no enlightenment at all, just a feeling of letting myself down. However the following week, i started to notice traits about my personality that i didnt like, namely not listening, but waiting for my turn to speak. I dont know whether its coincidence that this revelation came at the same time as my trip, or I have been given a chance to improve myself for the better.
I am keen to revisit the salvia world soon as I find it is not a fun experience but an important one. I have a strong feeling I can learn from fully immersing myself in the world and standing on my own feet, I have always taken it seriously but from now on i think it is time to enter the world armed with a question and an intent, not just for a look around.
I welcome any comments or ideas anyone might have about my experience, i am very interested to learn more about myself through this means if possible
cheers for reading, sorry was a bit long but I really wanted to get it all down and out of my head Tim
