Salvia 5x and Cannabis

[Spaceman]

What can I expect from smoking both a joint and salvia 5x? Will the joint power up the salvia or make it longer?

 

[skrudge]

it's pretty useless and you will waste your salvia. The psychoactive substance in salvia, salvorin-A is only activated while burned in a very high temperature. This means smoking it in a bong or pipe and using a butane lighter. It's possible to smoke a joint before you smoke salvia, which might boost the effects. Depends on your person I think... For me it works pretty well.
Don't combine the two in a joint, because the salvia won't do anything.

 

[Spaceman]

My idea is to smoke a joint first, and the salvia after.

So it should be alright, right?

 

[skrudge]

yeah that should be alright
not like it's a fact or anything, but for me it works ok and it stimulates the salvia effects some more

 

[ararat]

but prepare to be way more confused at least I was..

 

[gammagoblin]

Well, for me it worked and both substances also seemed to interfere with the things they were doing in my body. Instead of getting a little sedated by the cannabis I became more active, and ofcourse pretty trippy. It also worked a lot longer than salvia alone, about an hour. But the experience isn't nearly as intense als a good salvia experience.

I have also tried smoking salvia before or after MJ, but the effects weren't the same as the joint with both in it.

 

[Lion]

Smoking cannabis and then salvia made me feel very uncomfortable.
Not something I would advice to anyone.

 

[Spaceman]

Can you be more specific on what you didn't like, Lion?

 

[Lion]

The feeling.
It made me fall to one side all the time. Not fall but more like tumble to one side. This part was still ok.
But then i started seeing a lott of insects like i have when i trip bad on lsd.
Also the bad feeling i had lasted for 4 hours or more.
I just had to go sleep to get it off me.
The morning after everything was better but still not pleasant.

I had weird feelings then ...

 

[dutchmarshal]

never had a bad experience with salv and weed!

i would suggest smoking a small J and then after 10 min or so.. smoke some salvia! it makes the after affect of the trip last so much longer...the 2d seeing and stuff like that..


funny story... a while back i was on salvia 10x and weed...in the salvia trip a saw a highway and snoopy(the old cartoon dog) was standing on the other side.... don't know what that means though...

i got to be verry crazy or something

 

[Spaceman]

But Lion, did you smoke both substances at the same time? And what was the extract? 5x, 10x, 20x ?

 

[Guest]

i used to smoke SD, and then a MJ joint. that made my after-effect much more pleasant. my SD after-effects were very nasty (sickness, numbness, empty-headed (aka stupidness), and heavy psysical discomfort), but after the MJ joint, i entered a dream-like state that was very pleasant indeed (because it turned my SD after-effects into a cannabis stoned-feeling).

edit: i never smoked cannabis first (or if i did, i don't recall it )


happy tripping!

 

[Spaceman]

daytripper, what was the extract you smoked? You always felt like that after smoking salvia?

 

[Guest]

spaceman, in my two first trips (that were both very strong, with the 2nd being the most powerful that i've ever had with SD), i felt some marvelous after-effects.
then, i don't know why (perhaps the setting) i began feeling more and more stressed after tripping. 2 or 3 trips after this, the after-effects were so strong that made me question if the SD trip was worth it. i tried changing the setting (once i had a trip lying on a big, big wheat-field, it was very nice), smoking more, smoking less, i ordered from different smartshops (normal leaves, 5x and 10x extracts - i had the best results with normal leaves), and then i tried smoking some hashish after the trip (in that hiatus that comes between the SD trip and the after-effects), with great results. it enhanced all the positive sides of the come-down - the relaxed, dreamy-state, with some very positive thoughts and a very fast understanding of what the Lady S taught me.
just for the record, i've tried this method with different psychedelics (LSD and mushrooms), and i never felt this very fast understanding of what I saw. my last heavy LSD trip was more than 6 months ago, and I still don't understand the most of it, and i have to meditate a lot (to lose my ego), to lose my fear and dig, dig, dig in that amazing amount of information that is inside me and i cannot access very easily.
the "trick" with SD, IMHO, is to let go our ego before smoking...never try to judge, question or rationalize what you see. just take it and trust the herb.

 

[ZeroExistenZ]

I have smoked the 5x extract twice, giving me very intense (too intense) trips. The second trip I just kept on repeating "oh fuck, not again" and waiting it out. So I decided to keep off of the extracts.

Combining salvia leaves with cannabis gave a much more pleasant trip, the sadated and sense of wonder of the cannabis combined with this specific clear salvia sensation are very pleasant. I just don't like the cannabis "hangover" the day after.

 

[jj]

I used to have some anxiety smoking 5x.

Putting Cannabis in the bowl with the 5x really helped.

Sometimes I would put the Cannabis on top so it lit first. Sometimes I would put them side by side but hit the Cannabis with the lighter first.

I liked to make the first hit start with Cannabis and then go to Salvia halfway through the hit. I take long, slow hits. Not really huge, just kind of spread out over 30 seconds or more.

I could taste the Cannabis first, and even start to feel it, just before the Salvia taste and effects came.

The Cannabis smoothed the path. It relaxed me and helped me to trust the Salvia.

I have also smoked Cannabis and then Salvia a minute later. This is different.

I like smoking them together, but giving the Cannabis a slight head start, best.

 

[Meduzz]

Start smoking normal salvia leaves and build op to higher doses and extracts.
This is how i'm doing it, haven't had a breaktrough yet.

I only expect meaningless mindfuck from salvia...

But i'm curious :wink:

 

[Forkbender]

It didn't work for me. If I don't smoke weed, it works better.