Newspaper, TV, do you subject yourself to them?

[user_1919]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone here subjected him or herself to the media. I hardly ever watch TV anymore, for the purpose that I know I am being conditioned to believe the media's way, so I just don't watch. I also refrain from reading the newspaper, so once again the media does not influence my thought process. Do any of you listen to the media in any way? Do you find it influences you in any way if you do subject yourself to this? Do you think people who subject themselves to the media know they are being conditioned into zombies? Do you think there is any way to wake up the masses? We need a revolution, I think the only way to wake up masses, is a national mushroom day

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Forkbender]

I only have a TV to watch movies. I read the news on the internet.

I don't think that it is necessarily bad for you to watch the news or whatever, you just have to do it in a conscious way. (=If you notice someone trying to manipulate you, it won't work!)

 

[st.bot.32]

My tv rarely goes on, mainly just once in a while for my playstation.

The thing I like about reading news on the internet is that you can go to various sites and get different perspectives, or glimpses into what is happening.

Media manipulation isn't always politically motivated either. Sometimes it is merely exploitational... and exaggerates or omits facts to create a distorted image that pads someone's ego, and/or sells, sells, sells.

 

[druglessdouglas]

i watch tv for news, films and education/ documentary and nature programmes. once youve watched the news you can look for other sources on the interweb to get a wider view of whats going on. i watch local news progs as i believe them to be fairly impartial.
natutre progs keep my interest fresh and help me to remember what i already know

tv has its place, its only when you only watch and no longer participate it becomes a negative influence on your life

 

[????????]

I stopped watching tv a while ago and now I find them obnoxious. But I can still hear them! I wish I could get rid of the ones in my house.

Internet > tvs & newspapers

 

[spice]

It depends on the attitude you have.

If you watch it with an 'Oh golly, Mr. Man, tell me what to believe' mentality, then you'll get served exactly what you are seeking.

I watch a lot of different things on TV, but anytime I watch the 'news' or some political bullshit like C-SPAN, I keep my *own* thought processes.....I don't let Bill O'Reilly tell me why everyone should, quote; ' stop bashing Exxon'.....

.....and I don't let politicians 'show me the light'....


Watch it with the attitude of 'I caught you lying AGAIN, you miserable fuck'...
or 'quit twisting the truth bitch' ( for Condoleeza Rice, anytime her mouth opens, she is spinning )

....you can actually learn things, not the ones they want, either....

 

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[druglessdouglas]

ignore the system. lead by example. most people learn through a form of osmosis. the more people ignore the machine, the less power it will have

 

[silv]

I still say play the game to change it. Thus I do read newspapers now and then, watch TV for entertainment mainly and read bits and pieces on the interweb. The most important thing about my attitude is that I always try to remain critical of Everything. I always try not to believe anything at first sight, so as to be the least influenced I possibly can.

 

[phalaris]

I used to read the newspaper intensively, often even two different ones per day. I stopped doing that because it made me sick, ill, frustrated and what not.

I never was a real fan of TV but I stopped watching television about one and a half year ago; there was simply no TV set in my room at the time. This was when I did my internhip 200 km from my hometown. I got back and never returned to wathing.

Later, due to some financial difficulties, I was closed down from cable TV. The lady of the big-fat-arrogant cable company that phoned me after some weeks was really surprised that I had no interest in getting my cable back.

It sucked only because of my internet connection was also through the cable. Now I pay the neighbour some money so that I can use his internet connection as well. We even upgraded to a 12 MBit connection !

Win-win !

When there is some really important 'news', I will hear about it through friends or colleges.

 

[lol*fan]

'The news'... I always wonder: who decides what is 'news' and what is not. Even if a news item seems so objective, the very act of showing you what's happening here and not showing you what's happening there is subjective.

Anyway, all that aside, I don't think it's important to know what's going on on the other side of the globe. I just step outside and look around to see what's happening. Some people I met found that a very strange idea. "But... but... how can you not want to know that some guy in the Antilles murdered some girl and have an opinion on that?"

O well.

 

[tryptonaut]

'The news'... I always wonder: who decides what is 'news' and what is not.

You don't have to wonder. It's just one guy/gal who thinks they know what the masses want to hear/see.

 

[neil2445]

I think the media is the key to it all - linked to the educational system and government/big business (the media's owners). Once you see through that, you become aware of the mental filters. What do you lot think?

 

[GOD]

The same . Its all propoganda / controll . Lessons what to believe and how to act and the only theng that comes out at the other end is happy little slaves .

Free the press , free education , introduce rule by the people and stop the mafia / politicians getting 200$ every time we pass go . Life is a tread mill , a drive where our "leaders" lie to us and scare us so that we are permanently on our toes , on the run , by shaking the carpet under our feet so that we cant keep our balance , that way they drive us in the direction they want . And collect 200$ every time we pass go .

If the public was properly educated to think for itself we would never have started the war against islam or the genocide in afghanistan and irak . And the holocaust in palastine would be ended .

 

[Twilight]

'The news'... I always wonder: who decides what is 'news' and what is not.

You don't have to wonder. It's just one guy/gal who thinks they know what the masses want to hear/see.

The worst thing of this system is that they look at the number of deaths, shocking information (Only the stuff that's not any danger to the government) and sensationalism.
The more of these things mentioned is in the news article, the more value it has.

I've actually read the above stuff in a kind of manual when I did some work for a television channel.

Because these days people want to see the deaths of other people or other kinds of destruction.

 

[magickmumu]

Does remind me of a article in Itense Device By Simon White chaple.
ISBN 0-9523288-9-5
No New is Good News – psychic Vampirism in the mass media.
It is a interview with Steve Philips. ? About why the media is so attracted by the mass media.
Need to read it again.

 

[tryptonaut]

'The news'... I always wonder: who decides what is 'news' and what is not.

You don't have to wonder. It's just one guy/gal who thinks they know what the masses want to hear/see.

The worst thing of this system is that they look at the number of deaths, shocking information (Only the stuff that's not any danger to the government) and sensationalism.
The more of these things mentioned is in the news article, the more value it has.

I've actually read the above stuff in a kind of manual when I did some work for a television channel.

Because these days people want to see the deaths of other people or other kinds of destruction.

I'm working for regional tv, we sometimes film car accidents (well, we actually have a cell phone that gets the messages from police when something happens), and sometimes national stations will buy the footage.
I quote a big national station: "don't call us unless there's at least two dead. Or spectacular pictures with flames and stuff."

On the other hand, it's not in the hands of the media - when there's a big accident on the highway with five people dead and the regional tv doesn't report, then people are calling if we are too stupid or something because even the national channel XY reported and we didn't.
Thanks to government funding there's relatively good cultural programs on German tv - and I guess 80% of the people working in the tv business would love to work there - but they can't, because ratings show that the majority wants to see stupid boulevard stuff...

 

[neil2445]

I trained up as a journalist and walked into plenty of dangerous places, including Bosnia and West Belfast. What I can't stand about the media is all the paper-thin bullshit that masquerades as news; footballers wives on shopping trips, Sarkozy's glamorous ex-model wife, celebrity drivel. The real world is heading for a show-down, and all we get told about is shite. I handed my press card in and went to night school and trained up as a builder.

 

[Twilight]

'The news'... I always wonder: who decides what is 'news' and what is not.

You don't have to wonder. It's just one guy/gal who thinks they know what the masses want to hear/see.

The worst thing of this system is that they look at the number of deaths, shocking information (Only the stuff that's not any danger to the government) and sensationalism.
The more of these things mentioned is in the news article, the more value it has.

I've actually read the above stuff in a kind of manual when I did some work for a television channel.

Because these days people want to see the deaths of other people or other kinds of destruction.

I'm working for regional tv, we sometimes film car accidents (well, we actually have a cell phone that gets the messages from police when something happens), and sometimes national stations will buy the footage.
I quote a big national station: "don't call us unless there's at least two dead. Or spectacular pictures with flames and stuff."

On the other hand, it's not in the hands of the media - when there's a big accident on the highway with five people dead and the regional tv doesn't report, then people are calling if we are too stupid or something because even the national channel XY reported and we didn't.
Thanks to government funding there's relatively good cultural programs on German tv - and I guess 80% of the people working in the tv business would love to work there - but they can't, because ratings show that the majority wants to see stupid boulevard stuff...

Yeah, I was asking myself the same thing, and you're quite right about that.
People will indeed call and ask about the 'big accidents' that weren't on the news, and so on.

 

[Klaatu]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone here subjected him or herself to the media. I hardly ever watch TV anymore, for the purpose that I know I am being conditioned to believe the media's way, so I just don't watch. I also refrain from reading the newspaper, so once again the media does not influence my thought process. Do any of you listen to the media in any way? Do you find it influences you in any way if you do subject yourself to this? Do you think people who subject themselves to the media know they are being conditioned into zombies? Do you think there is any way to wake up the masses? We need a revolution, I think the only way to wake up masses, is a national mushroom day

PEACE & LOVE

This post just fills my head with questions.

Do you really think things are that simple? "Alternative thinkers" are sometimes even more fundamental and simplistic in their views than the caricatured ideas of their "enemies". "Don't think, don't read, here's American Gladiators, drink beer, we know what's best for you, drugs couldn't possibly do any good because they are EVIL" vs. "The media just is a propaganda tool, it just is. They just want to enslave us, it's all a great conspiracy, the media couldn't possibly be any good for you because those people are EVIL"

The World works the way it works without giant thousand-year-old conspiracies.

What do you mean by "being conditioned to believe the media's way"? If you know that part of the news is bullshit, why don't you just ignore that part and focus on the non-bullshit?

How exactly, in practice, does the media turn people into zombies? How does it negatively influence the thought processes of conscious people?

It almost seems as if you were scared, as if watching the news would suddenly sweep away all that knowledge and critical thinking you have. Why?

If I remember correctly, many US newspapers had pretty nonbiased and intelligent articles on LSD after Albert Hofmann's death. Are people in the US being conditioned into acid zombies?